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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

I have a Rebel in the hangar that I'm currently installing to amphibs. It
has a matco on it.. single sided fork.... nothing but a bolt/two bearings
and a nut for an axle. POJ in my honest opinion.

Wayne

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Subject: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Has anyone used a Matco 8" pneumatic tail wheel on a Rebel?

Hank
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Hank & Vickie Balch

[rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Post by Hank & Vickie Balch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

Wayne

Thanks for the feed back.

Hank

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
I have a Rebel in the hangar that I'm currently installing to amphibs. It
has a matco on it.. single sided fork.... nothing but a bolt/two bearings
and a nut for an axle. POJ in my honest opinion.

Wayne

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Subject: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Has anyone used a Matco 8" pneumatic tail wheel on a Rebel?

Hank
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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

I'd use the MAM tailwheel before I bought one of those Hank. The old "you
get what you pay for" appears to apply to the Matco, at least from what I'm
looking at in the hangar.

If you can get the spare change jar going... save up for a Scott / ABI 3200
and make a one time purchase!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank & Vickie Balch" <cwfarm1@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Wayne

Thanks for the feed back.

Hank

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
I have a Rebel in the hangar that I'm currently installing to amphibs. It
has a matco on it.. single sided fork.... nothing but a bolt/two bearings
and a nut for an axle. POJ in my honest opinion.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <hank@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:34 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Has anyone used a Matco 8" pneumatic tail wheel on a Rebel?

Hank
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Hank & Vickie Balch

[rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Post by Hank & Vickie Balch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

That's a good idea. My 6" MAM tail wheel works fine, but it is so narrow
that is really cuts into the soft ground as I taxi.

Hank

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
I'd use the MAM tailwheel before I bought one of those Hank. The old "you
get what you pay for" appears to apply to the Matco, at least from what I'm
looking at in the hangar.

If you can get the spare change jar going... save up for a Scott / ABI 3200
and make a one time purchase!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank & Vickie Balch" <cwfarm1@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Wayne

Thanks for the feed back.

Hank

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
I have a Rebel in the hangar that I'm currently installing to amphibs.
It
has a matco on it.. single sided fork.... nothing but a bolt/two
bearings
and a nut for an axle. POJ in my honest opinion.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <hank@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:34 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel




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Ken

[rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Post by Ken » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

For some contrarian data...
I replaced the MAM with the 8" pnuematic Matco for soft wet fields. This
is the exact same tire that the Scott 3200 uses and also the same tire
as the front wheel on the 1800 amphibs. The Matco may not be a Scott but
at about $220. it is less than 1/5 the cost and it works fine for me. I
did modify the kick out angle but they sell the parts for that mod. Or
you can weld some tabs if you want to do it yourself. You might need the
adapter depending on the width of your spring. The swivel friction has
been adjustable for several years on this tailwheel although not on
older models. The only downside that I see compared to observing others
with the Scott is that it may be more sensitive to shimmy if the
vertical swivel post leans too far back. Mine seems to like a vertical
or even a slight reverse lean. ie top of the swivel farther aft than the
bottom. I also like the sealed ball bearing races in the wheel. No need
to grease it or be concerned dragging it through snow, water, slush,
etc. and no grease flings out of it.

I was happy with MAM's tailwheel on pavement.

Ken

Hank & Vickie Balch wrote:
That's a good idea. My 6" MAM tail wheel works fine, but it is so narrow
that is really cuts into the soft ground as I taxi.

Hank

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
I'd use the MAM tailwheel before I bought one of those Hank. The old "you
get what you pay for" appears to apply to the Matco, at least from what I'm
looking at in the hangar.

If you can get the spare change jar going... save up for a Scott / ABI 3200
and make a one time purchase!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank & Vickie Balch" <cwfarm1@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Wayne

Thanks for the feed back.

Hank

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
It
bearings

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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

Dang you're getting slow Ken !! Two days for you to see me dissin them one
forked tailwheels again !! LMAO

The one in the hangar... wheel rocks about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch ...each way
of centre. Bolt hole worn, etc.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken" <klehman@albedo.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

For some contrarian data...
I replaced the MAM with the 8" pnuematic Matco for soft wet fields. This
is the exact same tire that the Scott 3200 uses and also the same tire
as the front wheel on the 1800 amphibs. The Matco may not be a Scott but
at about $220. it is less than 1/5 the cost and it works fine for me. I
did modify the kick out angle but they sell the parts for that mod. Or
you can weld some tabs if you want to do it yourself. You might need the
adapter depending on the width of your spring. The swivel friction has
been adjustable for several years on this tailwheel although not on
older models. The only downside that I see compared to observing others
with the Scott is that it may be more sensitive to shimmy if the
vertical swivel post leans too far back. Mine seems to like a vertical
or even a slight reverse lean. ie top of the swivel farther aft than the
bottom. I also like the sealed ball bearing races in the wheel. No need
to grease it or be concerned dragging it through snow, water, slush,
etc. and no grease flings out of it.

I was happy with MAM's tailwheel on pavement.

Ken

Hank & Vickie Balch wrote:
That's a good idea. My 6" MAM tail wheel works fine, but it is so narrow
that is really cuts into the soft ground as I taxi.

Hank

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
I'd use the MAM tailwheel before I bought one of those Hank. The old
"you
get what you pay for" appears to apply to the Matco, at least from what
I'm
looking at in the hangar.

If you can get the spare change jar going... save up for a Scott / ABI
3200
and make a one time purchase!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank & Vickie Balch" <cwfarm1@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

It bearings

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Ken

[rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Post by Ken » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

Hey I didn't say anything about it only having one fork ;)
Us Rebel guys aren't really renowned for being real fast...

Ken

Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
Dang you're getting slow Ken !! Two days for you to see me dissin them one
forked tailwheels again !! LMAO

The one in the hangar... wheel rocks about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch ...each way
of centre. Bolt hole worn, etc.


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Hank & Vickie Balch

[rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

Post by Hank & Vickie Balch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

Thanks for the information Ken. My airfield is drying out now, although I
did taxi through a wet spot yesterday. The field is located in a flood
plain and tends to stay wet long into the spring. It's like a leaking roof,
you don't worry about it when it is not raining. Once the field drys out I
will not be thinking about it until next winter. Our field usually doesn't
freeze solid in the winter and remains soft till late spring.

Hank

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Ken <klehman@albedo.net> wrote:
For some contrarian data...
I replaced the MAM with the 8" pnuematic Matco for soft wet fields. This
is the exact same tire that the Scott 3200 uses and also the same tire
as the front wheel on the 1800 amphibs. The Matco may not be a Scott but
at about $220. it is less than 1/5 the cost and it works fine for me. I
did modify the kick out angle but they sell the parts for that mod. Or
you can weld some tabs if you want to do it yourself. You might need the
adapter depending on the width of your spring. The swivel friction has
been adjustable for several years on this tailwheel although not on
older models. The only downside that I see compared to observing others
with the Scott is that it may be more sensitive to shimmy if the
vertical swivel post leans too far back. Mine seems to like a vertical
or even a slight reverse lean. ie top of the swivel farther aft than the
bottom. I also like the sealed ball bearing races in the wheel. No need
to grease it or be concerned dragging it through snow, water, slush,
etc. and no grease flings out of it.

I was happy with MAM's tailwheel on pavement.

Ken

Hank & Vickie Balch wrote:
That's a good idea. My 6" MAM tail wheel works fine, but it is so narrow
that is really cuts into the soft ground as I taxi.

Hank

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca
wrote:
I'd use the MAM tailwheel before I bought one of those Hank. The old
"you
get what you pay for" appears to apply to the Matco, at least from what
I'm
looking at in the hangar.

If you can get the spare change jar going... save up for a Scott / ABI
3200
and make a one time purchase!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank & Vickie Balch" <cwfarm1@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Matco tail wheel

It bearings

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