Thanks for uploading the pics Sean ... their worth 1000 words and more.
Looks like the air box inlet is bigger then would be for a VANS installation
... no mods to the lower cowl .. true?
Bob 612e
-----Original Message-----
From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Robert Andrews
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:21 AM
To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
Roger. Checked the archives for a picture of a VANS air box install ... no
joy. Any chance you could upload a few? Sean, your experience and lessons
learned with this is most appreciated.
Cheers, Bob 612e
-----Original Message-----
From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:45 AM
To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
No that is a the original two piece Elite cowl that had a lot of rework done
around the air box. I have since figured out how to put the airbox in
without
an extra 50 hours of glass work but it sure looked cool
Sean
On 10/12/2007 4:22 PM,
robert@montanasky.us wrote to rebel-builders:
->
-> Just curious, are this pics of a rebel cowl modified to work with a VANS
air
-> box?
->
->
www.aacnet.com/elite/cowl-1.jpg
->
->
www.aacnet.com/elite/cowl-3.jpg
->
-> Bob 612e
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> WALTER KLATT
-> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 2:37 PM
-> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: Re: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
->
->
-> Yes, they are. Email me offline if you want to sell it.
->
-> Walter
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: Robert Johnson <
bestofbo@cogeco.ca>
-> Date: Friday, October 12, 2007 2:01 pm
-> Subject: Re: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
->
-> > Hi Walter: I have a dynafocal mount for an O320 - are they the
-> > same?? Bob J
-> > ----- Original Message -----
-> > From: "WALTER KLATT" <
Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
-> > To: <
rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 4:37 PM
-> > Subject: Re: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> >
-> >
-> > > Sounds very good.
-> > >
-> > > Now I also need a new speed cowl and a dynafocal mount. Anyone
-> > have one of
-> > > these they don't need?
-> > >
-> > > Walter
-> > >
-> > > ----- Original Message -----
-> > > From:
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> > > Date: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:57 pm
-> > > Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> > > To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >
-> > >> It does come with all the bits to assemble the door but you will
-> > >> need a 2"
-> > >> flange to attach the scat hose to your heat muff. Vans also
-> > >> includes a
-> > >> alternate air door kit to bypass the filter as the normal setup
-> > >> filters both
-> > >> warm and cold air. The original bypass door was held close by a
-> > >> magnet and
-> > >> was to open itself if the filter plugged but was found to open
-> > >> when ever it
-> > >> felt like it. They now have a cable operated door in its place.
-> > >> You do not have
-> > >> to install this door if you are not flying in heavy snow or
-> > >> freezing rain as it is
-> > >> olny there in case you pack the air filter full of ice and snow
-> > >> important if you
-> > >> fly a lot of IFR. If you are ever in dought just pull the carb
-> > >> heat on as it is
-> > >> also filtered you can even use it on the ground.
-> > >>
-> > >> Sean
-> > >> On 10/12/2007 10:18 AM,
walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-
-> > builders:>>
-> > >> -> Does it come with the carb heat gate or is this separate?
-> > >> ->
-> > >> -> Walter
-> > >> ->
-> > >> -> -----Original Message-----
-> > >> -> From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> > >> Behalf
-> > >> Of
-> > >> ->
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:29 PM
-> > >> -> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> > >> ->
-> > >> -> Vans P/N FAB-360/540 fits all 0-360 with a carb
-> > >> ->
-> > >> -> Sean
-> > >> ->
-> > >> -> On 10/11/2007 12:42 PM,
robert@montanasky.us wrote to
-> > rebel-
-> > >> builders:->
-> > >> -> -> Sean,
-> > >> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> The VAN's website shows a few air boxes for O-360's.
-> > >> Which one did
-> > >> you
-> > >> -> -> use? ... and was there any issues in rigging up carb heat?
-> > >> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> Bob 612e
-> > >> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> Original Message:
-> > >> -> -> -----------------
-> > >> -> -> From: kitplane_solutionsol.com
-> > >> -> -> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:32:23 -0900
-> > >> -> -> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> > >> -> ->
-> > >> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> No you must cut out the blade openings to many differents
-> > >> blades for
-> > >> one
-> > >> -> -> cut out
-> > >> -> -> Sean
-> > >> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> On 10/11/2007 4:39 AM,
walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to
-> > rebel-
-> > >> builders:
-> > >> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> So these are fiberglass spinners? Are the blade cut-
-> > >> outs done?
-> > >> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> Walter
-> > >> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> > >> -> -> -> From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > >> [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> > >> -> Behalf
-> > >> -> -> Of
-> > >> -> -> ->
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 PM
-> > >> -> -> -> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> -> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> > >> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> The vans bulkheads are prepunched for the prop bolts
-> > >> but you
-> > >> need to
-> > >> -> -> put
-> > >> -> -> -> the dome attach scerws in this is easy beause you can
-> > >> see right
-> > >> -> through
-> > >> -> -> the
-> > >> -> -> -> fiberglass spinner to drill the holes
-> > >> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> Sean
-> > >> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> 10/10/2007 5:26 PM,
walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to
-> > rebel-
-> > >> builders:-> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> Do the Vans spinners come all cut out and holes
-> > >> drilled for prop
-> > >> -> -> bolts?
-> > >> -> -> -> My
-> > >> -> -> -> -> last one I did from scratch with the Murphy kit, and
-> > >> it was a lot
-> > >> -> of
-> > >> -> -> -> work. I
-> > >> -> -> -> -> was happy with the final result, but like I said, I
-> > >> am getting real
-> > >> -> -> lazy
-> > >> -> -> -> now
-> > >> -> -> -> -> the second time around, and just want to get it back
-> > >> in the air
-> > >> -> ASAP.
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> Walter
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> > >> -> -> -> -> From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > >> [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]
-> > >> On
-> > >> -> -> Behalf
-> > >> -> -> -> Of
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> -> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:24 PM
-> > >> -> -> -> -> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> -> -> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> Hi Walter
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> The Vans airbox for the 360 carb or up draft fuel
-> > >> injection will
-> > >> -> -> work. It
-> > >> -> -> -> -> needs
-> > >> -> -> -> -> a little trim and a bit of glass work but will fit
-> > >> the Murphy cowl
-> > >> -> -> I've
-> > >> -> -> -> done
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> three of them now and they seem to hang together
-> > >> just fine. I
-> > >> also
-> > >> -> -> use
-> > >> -> -> -> Vans
-> > >> -> -> -> -> tThrottle bracket and spinners they are really nice
-> > >> and are a very
-> > >> -> -> good
-> > >> -> -> -> -> price
-> > >> -> -> -> -> also. I joke that all of the planes that I build
-> > >> have a Van-Murphy
-> > >> -> -> fire
-> > >> -> -> -> wall
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> forward package
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> Sean
-> > >> -> -> -> -> On 10/10/2007 4:02 PM,
walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote
to
-> > >> rebel-
-> > >> -> builders:
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> You mention Van's air filters. Does Van's sell a
-> > >> carb heat box
-> > >> -> for
-> > >> -> -> the
-> > >> -> -> -> -> 360
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> that would fit the Murphy cowl and what would the
-> > >> part
-> > >> number
-> > >> -> -> be? I
-> > >> -> -> -> -> have
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> their catalogue, but couldn't find that item.
-> > >> -> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> Also I am thinking of taking the lazy route and
-> > >> buying Van's
-> > >> -> -> baffles,
-> > >> -> -> -> -> too.
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> The ones for the RV 6, 7, et al are part number
-> > >> BAF-6-360.
-> > >> Are
-> > >> -> -> these
-> > >> -> -> -> the
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> right ones?
-> > >> -> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> Also, where is the best place to get a good
-> > >> stainless steel
-> > >> -> exhaust
-> > >> -> -> -> for
-> > >> -> -> -> -> the
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> 360? I assume it is probably the same as for
-> > the 320?
-> > >> -> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> Walter
-> > >> -> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > >> [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]
-> > >> -> On
-> > >> -> -> -> Behalf
-> > >> -> -> -> -> Of
-> > >> -> -> -> -> ->
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:20 PM
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> Subject: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> > >> -> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> All Elite kits have been delivered with an airbox
-> > >> that fits an
-> > >> -> 360
-> > >> -> -> -> carb
-> > >> -> -> -> -> but
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> the
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> airfilter is to small. I can't remeber the name
-> > >> of the person
-> > >> -> that
-> > >> -> -> I
-> > >> -> -> -> -> spoke
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> to at
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> Bracket but I was told that an 0-360 needs a
-> > >> minimum of
-> > >> 27
-> > >> -> -> square
-> > >> -> -> -> -> inchs of
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> filter surface. If the supplied airbox is used it
-> > >> will fail in
-> > >> -> -> about
-> > >> -> -> -> 25
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> hours of
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> use this is do to the carb heat door vibrating
-> > >> from the engine
-> > >> -> -> trying
-> > >> -> -> -> to
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> draw
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> air from the back side of the door. The first
-> > >> Elite I built for
-> > >> -> Bob
-> > >> -> -> -> Fry
-> > >> -> -> -> -> had
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> the
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> standard filter and ran like crap at full power
-> > >> while belching
-> > >> -> -> black
-> > >> -> -> -> -> smoke.
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> Pulling the filter resulted in almost 200 RPM
-> > >> increase at full
-> > >> -> -> -> throttle.
-> > >> -> -> -> -> I
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> modified the box for a larger filter (not easy)
-> > >> now I just put
-> > >> -> Vans
-> > >> -> -> -> air
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> filters
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> on and get it over with. Bob's plane is
-> > running a
-> > >> 76-56 prop
-> > >> -> and
-> > >> -> -> -> pulled
-> > >> -> -> -> -> 2460
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> static at an OAT of about 90 this past summer.
-> > >> Bob cruises
-> > >> at
-> > >> -> 103
-> > >> -> -> kts.
-> > >> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> at
-> > >> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> 2480. This is an XP-360 with one Lightspeed. And
-> > >> it is still
-> > >> for
-> > >> -> -> sale
-> > >> -> -> -> -> take
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> advantage of the Canuck Buck and buy it today
-> > >> -> -> -> -> ->
-> > >> -> -> -> -> -> Sean White
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