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ray.mason

Moose specs

Post by ray.mason » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:12 am

I am building a hanger for my rebel but want to make sure it high enough to
put a moose amphib in if I every get enough money and time. Anybody measured
one yet?



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Barnhart

Moose specs

Post by Barnhart » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:13 am

Keith at Montana Floats said a Moose with amphibs is 11' 8" high to the
rudder.

Barny
MGDQ 20bt SR103 (Hangar door 3" too low)


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I am building a hanger for my rebel but want to make sure it high enough
to
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Ryan Mowat

Moose specs

Post by Ryan Mowat » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:13 am

My Moose is 11' 4" high to the top of the rudder.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:19:36 -0600, Barnhart wrote
Keith at Montana Floats said a Moose with amphibs is 11' 8" high to the
rudder.

Barny
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Ted Waltman

Moose specs

Post by Ted Waltman » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 am

The Moose cruise specs on the Murphy website are, well, optimistic. I
flight plan 115k @ 16.5 g/hr for mine [and that's a bit optimistic].
The useful load for a Moose is somewhere very close to 1,500 lbs, of
course depending on what a builder adds to the plain kit. My empty
weight is 1990 (I think). Gross is listed as 3,500' but I hear rumors
of guys putting far more than that in theirs.

Ted

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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:12 PM
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Scott,

Are you saying the BearHawk would have better perf specs if corrected or

the Moose would have less?

WRH
============

Scott Aldrich wrote:
But then you would also need to correct the overly optimistic M14 Moose
useful load numbers - like about 300 to 400 pounds. Of course you can
up the max gross to get it all back (in the US anyway).

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You should copy that spreadsheet and correct the performance specs and
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Scott Aldrich

Moose specs

Post by Scott Aldrich » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 am

Well I was going to tell WRH I had never heard of a M14 Moose with an empty
weight under 2000 lbs - now I have. Typical is more like 2000 to 2100
though.

Oh Ted's will be over 2000 as soon as he paints it though..

-----Original Message-----
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Waltman
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:20 PM
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Subject: Moose specs

The Moose cruise specs on the Murphy website are, well, optimistic. I
flight plan 115k @ 16.5 g/hr for mine [and that's a bit optimistic].
The useful load for a Moose is somewhere very close to 1,500 lbs, of
course depending on what a builder adds to the plain kit. My empty
weight is 1990 (I think). Gross is listed as 3,500' but I hear rumors
of guys putting far more than that in theirs.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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Blueraven
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Humorous comparison


Scott,

Are you saying the BearHawk would have better perf specs if corrected or

the Moose would have less?

WRH
============

Scott Aldrich wrote:
But then you would also need to correct the overly optimistic M14 Moose
useful load numbers - like about 300 to 400 pounds. Of course you can
up the max gross to get it all back (in the US anyway).

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
pequeajim@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Humorous comparison

You should copy that spreadsheet and correct the performance specs and
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Al Paxhia

Moose specs

Post by Al Paxhia » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 am

Hey you M14 guys don't forget the spare parts, tools, case of oil and the
ladder. Isn't that part of the empty weight? The devil made me say it! Al
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: Moose specs

Well I was going to tell WRH I had never heard of a M14 Moose with an
empty
weight under 2000 lbs - now I have. Typical is more like 2000 to 2100
though.

Oh Ted's will be over 2000 as soon as he paints it though..

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ted
Waltman
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:20 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Moose specs

The Moose cruise specs on the Murphy website are, well, optimistic. I
flight plan 115k @ 16.5 g/hr for mine [and that's a bit optimistic].
The useful load for a Moose is somewhere very close to 1,500 lbs, of
course depending on what a builder adds to the plain kit. My empty
weight is 1990 (I think). Gross is listed as 3,500' but I hear rumors
of guys putting far more than that in theirs.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Blueraven
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:12 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Humorous comparison


Scott,

Are you saying the BearHawk would have better perf specs if corrected or

the Moose would have less?

WRH
============

Scott Aldrich wrote:
But then you would also need to correct the overly optimistic M14 Moose
useful load numbers - like about 300 to 400 pounds. Of course you can
up the max gross to get it all back (in the US anyway).

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
pequeajim@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:47 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Humorous comparison

You should copy that spreadsheet and correct the performance specs and
then it will REALLY look like a good deal!






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Dick Shotwell

Moose specs

Post by Dick Shotwell » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 am

Hi Al,
You are bad to the bone !!
Dick Shotwell
Moose 096
N235DS
Twin Falls, ID


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From: "Al Paxhia" <paxhia2@comcast.net>
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Moose specs

Hey you M14 guys don't forget the spare parts, tools, case of oil and the
ladder. Isn't that part of the empty weight? The devil made me say it! Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <s-aldrich@comcast.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: Moose specs

Well I was going to tell WRH I had never heard of a M14 Moose with an
empty
weight under 2000 lbs - now I have. Typical is more like 2000 to 2100
though.

Oh Ted's will be over 2000 as soon as he paints it though..

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ted
Waltman
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:20 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Moose specs

The Moose cruise specs on the Murphy website are, well, optimistic. I
flight plan 115k @ 16.5 g/hr for mine [and that's a bit optimistic].
The useful load for a Moose is somewhere very close to 1,500 lbs, of
course depending on what a builder adds to the plain kit. My empty
weight is 1990 (I think). Gross is listed as 3,500' but I hear rumors
of guys putting far more than that in theirs.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Blueraven
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:12 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Humorous comparison


Scott,

Are you saying the BearHawk would have better perf specs if corrected or

the Moose would have less?

WRH
============

Scott Aldrich wrote:
But then you would also need to correct the overly optimistic M14 Moose
useful load numbers - like about 300 to 400 pounds. Of course you can
up the max gross to get it all back (in the US anyway).

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
pequeajim@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:47 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Humorous comparison

You should copy that spreadsheet and correct the performance specs and
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Mike Davis

Moose specs

Post by Mike Davis » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 am

Hey Al, what kind of cruise and fuel consumption are you seeing with your
540?

Mike

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Al Paxhia

Moose specs

Post by Al Paxhia » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 am

Hi Mike,
On conventional gear 2000 ft, 145 MPH and 16 gal. at 100 degrees rich of
peak. Al
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Hey Al, what kind of cruise and fuel consumption are you seeing with your
540?

Mike

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Bob Patterson

Moose specs

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 am

Gee Ted, you're doing better than I ever did with the M-14 !! ;-)

Never saw less than about 18 gph at what I thought was a comfortable
rpm & mp ... but that did give about 120 - 125 KT. ....

The Lyc. IO-540 was a different matter - at 8,000 ft, about 140+ mph,
and about 13 1/2 gph -- ~ 75 rich of peak. Deeeeelightful !!! :-)

......bobp

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On Thursday 16 February 2006 02:20 pm, Ted Waltman wrote:
The Moose cruise specs on the Murphy website are, well, optimistic. I
flight plan 115k @ 16.5 g/hr for mine [and that's a bit optimistic].
The useful load for a Moose is somewhere very close to 1,500 lbs, of
course depending on what a builder adds to the plain kit. My empty
weight is 1990 (I think). Gross is listed as 3,500' but I hear rumors
of guys putting far more than that in theirs.

Ted

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