height of letters

Murray and Carol Cherkas · Post by **Murray and Carol Cherkas** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:15 pm

If I put 10" letters on side instead of 12" with no letters on the
underside of wings, will this allow me to fly south of the border.

Going to the paint shop next week, should be flying within the month.Yeh!

Thanks
Murray

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mike.davis · Post by **mike.davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:15 pm

One other thing I thought I should add is in the experimental operating
limitations for my MX. Since the US has this statement in their program,
there may be something similar in other countries... I don't know.

"This aircraft does not meet the requirements of the applicable,
comprehensive, and detailed airworthiness code as provided by Annex 8 of the
International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). The owner/operator of this
aircraft must obtain written permission from another country's Civil Aviation
Authority (CAA) prior to operating this aircraft in or over that country.
That written permission must be carried aboard the aircraft together with the
U.S. airworthiness certificate and, upon request, be made available to an FAA
inspector or the CAA in the country of operation."

Mike

On 7/19/2003 11:30 AM, MURPHY-REBEL@DCSOL.COM wrote to MIKE DAVIS:

There is only one additional thing to watch out. If you enter an ADIZ
(aircraft Defense Identification Zone) you need to have 12 inch numbers.
ADIZ's are identified on the aeronautical charts. (Mexican border, off the
east coast of North America etc.) It is unclear if you need 12 inch numbers
for the ADIZ around Washington D.C. just now or any of the temporary ADIZ's
popping up when ever the TSA thinks it necessary.
George Coy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:00 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: height of letters

US regulations for experimental aircraft are 3" N-numbers and the
word "EXPERIMENTAL" in 2" letters where it can be seen from each entrance.
I'm sure though that as long as you comply with Canadian regs, you'll have
no
problem in the US.

Mike

On 7/18/2003 10:58 PM, MURPHY-REBEL@DCSOL.COM wrote to MIKE DAVIS:

If I put 10" letters on side instead of 12" with no letters on the
underside of wings, will this allow me to fly south of the border.

Going to the paint shop next week, should be flying within the month.Yeh!

Thanks
Murray

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:15 pm

Canadian Regs are 12" (11.8" actually) letters on both sides of the fuselage
OR the old option of 6" Letters on the sides and then you have to put the
20" letters under the left wing as well.

There is the line in the regs that states the equivalent of "unless there
isn't sufficient area for 12" letters" but they won't "buy" this on the
Rebel and if your MDRA inspector is paying attention he is not going to pass
your 10" letters Murray (although I do know many who are flying homebuilts
with undersize letters and nothing under the wings).

My 2 cents,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray and Carol Cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:34 AM
Subject: height of letters

If I put 10" letters on side instead of 12" with no letters on the
underside of wings, will this allow me to fly south of the border.

Going to the paint shop next week, should be flying within the month.Yeh!

Thanks
Murray

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George Coy · Post by **George Coy** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:15 pm

There is only one additional thing to watch out. If you enter an ADIZ
(aircraft Defense Identification Zone) you need to have 12 inch numbers.
ADIZ's are identified on the aeronautical charts. (Mexican border, off the
east coast of North America etc.) It is unclear if you need 12 inch numbers
for the ADIZ around Washington D.C. just now or any of the temporary ADIZ's
popping up when ever the TSA thinks it necessary.
George Coy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:00 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: height of letters

US regulations for experimental aircraft are 3" N-numbers and the
word "EXPERIMENTAL" in 2" letters where it can be seen from each entrance.
I'm sure though that as long as you comply with Canadian regs, you'll have
no
problem in the US.

Mike

On 7/18/2003 10:58 PM, MURPHY-REBEL@DCSOL.COM wrote to MIKE DAVIS:

If I put 10" letters on side instead of 12" with no letters on the
underside of wings, will this allow me to fly south of the border.

Going to the paint shop next week, should be flying within the month.Yeh!

Thanks
Murray

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:15 pm

There's a reciprical agreement on that Mike! All you have to do is find it
on the FAA or Transport Canada website and you can print it out for carrying
in your airplane. You used to have to apply for a time limited document, but
now it's blanket and good forever (or until they change the rules again!!)
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: height of letters

One other thing I thought I should add is in the experimental operating
limitations for my MX. Since the US has this statement in their program,
there may be something similar in other countries... I don't know.

"This aircraft does not meet the requirements of the applicable,
comprehensive, and detailed airworthiness code as provided by Annex 8 of

the

International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). The owner/operator of

this

aircraft must obtain written permission from another country's Civil

Aviation

Authority (CAA) prior to operating this aircraft in or over that country.
That written permission must be carried aboard the aircraft together with

the

U.S. airworthiness certificate and, upon request, be made available to an

FAA

inspector or the CAA in the country of operation."

Mike

On 7/19/2003 11:30 AM, MURPHY-REBEL@DCSOL.COM wrote to MIKE DAVIS:

There is only one additional thing to watch out. If you enter an ADIZ
(aircraft Defense Identification Zone) you need to have 12 inch numbers.
ADIZ's are identified on the aeronautical charts. (Mexican border, off

the

east coast of North America etc.) It is unclear if you need 12 inch

numbers

for the ADIZ around Washington D.C. just now or any of the temporary

ADIZ's

popping up when ever the TSA thinks it necessary.
George Coy

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:00 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: height of letters

US regulations for experimental aircraft are 3" N-numbers and the
word "EXPERIMENTAL" in 2" letters where it can be seen from each

entrance.

I'm sure though that as long as you comply with Canadian regs, you'll

have

no
problem in the US.

Mike

On 7/18/2003 10:58 PM, MURPHY-REBEL@DCSOL.COM wrote to MIKE DAVIS:

If I put 10" letters on side instead of 12" with no letters on the
underside of wings, will this allow me to fly south of the border.

Going to the paint shop next week, should be flying within the

month.Yeh!

Thanks
Murray

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