[rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

I'm using a nipondenso alternator with a built in regulator works great.

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i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for voltage
regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

Same here. Got mine from a wrecker out of an old Chevy Sprint. No problems
for 450+ hours. I think it cost me about 30 bucks.

Walter

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I'm using a nipondenso alternator with a built in regulator works great.

At 09:09 AM 7/31/2006 -0400, you wrote:

hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for

voltage

regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Angus McKenzie · Post by **Angus McKenzie** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

Me too. With a Toyota starter.....Angus

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Same here. Got mine from a wrecker out of an old Chevy Sprint. No problems
for 450+ hours. I think it cost me about 30 bucks.

Walter

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I'm using a nipondenso alternator with a built in regulator works great.

At 09:09 AM 7/31/2006 -0400, you wrote:
hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for
voltage
regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

Mike
Excellant as an external regulator allows complete control of the
alternator and the simple additon of overvoltage protection. That is the
preferred way to do it IMO. Many guys use a automotive regulator.
Standard part VR166 for example at about $40. is shown in aeroelectric
Z-23 diagram. I'd personally favour a solid state one since they have
some built in temperature compensation.
Chrylser also used to use a cheap solid state unit through the 1970's.
The VR166 or equivalent is popular however. B&C sell the overvoltage
protector for about $35. which I'd recommend
Ken .

Jones, Michael wrote:

hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for voltage
regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Jones, Michael · Post by **Jones, Michael** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

hey angus,drew

i have asked this before but never got answer, what is tongue value for
engine mounting bolts, that's the an8's for engine to frame mounting ??

mike

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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Me too. With a Toyota starter.....Angus

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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Same here. Got mine from a wrecker out of an old Chevy Sprint. No problems
for 450+ hours. I think it cost me about 30 bucks.

Walter

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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

I'm using a nipondenso alternator with a built in regulator works great.

At 09:09 AM 7/31/2006 -0400, you wrote:
hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for
voltage
regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Jones, Michael · Post by **Jones, Michael** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

hi ken

i have the b&c crowbar overvolt protection item, but as Niagara airparts
does not sell their internal regulated alternator i now have the b&c unit
and need regulator, b&c have good unit but not cheap !! but it is very good,
with monitors for bus voltage as well, is this the unit you refer to that
you think is the best way to go

thanks

mike

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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Mike
Excellant as an external regulator allows complete control of the
alternator and the simple additon of overvoltage protection. That is the
preferred way to do it IMO. Many guys use a automotive regulator.
Standard part VR166 for example at about $40. is shown in aeroelectric
Z-23 diagram. I'd personally favour a solid state one since they have
some built in temperature compensation.
Chrylser also used to use a cheap solid state unit through the 1970's.
The VR166 or equivalent is popular however. B&C sell the overvoltage
protector for about $35. which I'd recommend
Ken .

Jones, Michael wrote:

hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for

voltage

regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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steve whitenect · Post by **steve whitenect** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

For the conical mounts, Tony Bing says 40-60 inch pounds

Steve W.

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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:17:30 -0400

hey angus,drew

i have asked this before but never got answer, what is tongue value for
engine mounting bolts, that's the an8's for engine to frame mounting ??

mike

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Angus McKenzie
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Me too. With a Toyota starter.....Angus

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Same here. Got mine from a wrecker out of an old Chevy Sprint. No
problems
for 450+ hours. I think it cost me about 30 bucks.

Walter

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Drew
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Sent: July 31, 2006 6:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

I'm using a nipondenso alternator with a built in regulator works great.

At 09:09 AM 7/31/2006 -0400, you wrote:
hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for
voltage
regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Jones, Michael · Post by **Jones, Michael** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

great thanks steve, i have those books did not see it, will have to read
again

mike#007

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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

For the conical mounts, Tony Bing says 40-60 inch pounds

Steve W.

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To: "'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:17:30 -0400

hey angus,drew

i have asked this before but never got answer, what is tongue value for
engine mounting bolts, that's the an8's for engine to frame mounting ??

mike

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Angus McKenzie
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Me too. With a Toyota starter.....Angus

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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Same here. Got mine from a wrecker out of an old Chevy Sprint. No
problems
for 450+ hours. I think it cost me about 30 bucks.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
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Drew
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Sent: July 31, 2006 6:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

I'm using a nipondenso alternator with a built in regulator works great.

At 09:09 AM 7/31/2006 -0400, you wrote:
hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for
voltage
regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

Mike
Sure the B&C unit is very good and will outlast your airplane.
However the VR166 regulator from your local auto parts store will do the
job a lot cheaper if you don't mind a bit less reliability. Personally
since you already have the crowbar overvoltage protector I'd probably
use the VR166 as they are cheap enough that you could keep a spare in
stock if you wanted.
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

hi ken

i have the b&c crowbar overvolt protection item, but as Niagara airparts
does not sell their internal regulated alternator i now have the b&c unit
and need regulator, b&c have good unit but not cheap !! but it is very good,
with monitors for bus voltage as well, is this the unit you refer to that
you think is the best way to go

thanks

mike

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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:13 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Mike
Excellant as an external regulator allows complete control of the
alternator and the simple additon of overvoltage protection. That is the
preferred way to do it IMO. Many guys use a automotive regulator.
Standard part VR166 for example at about $40. is shown in aeroelectric
Z-23 diagram. I'd personally favour a solid state one since they have
some built in temperature compensation.
Chrylser also used to use a cheap solid state unit through the 1970's.
The VR166 or equivalent is popular however. B&C sell the overvoltage
protector for about $35. which I'd recommend
Ken .

Jones, Michael wrote:

hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for

voltage

regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Jones, Michael · Post by **Jones, Michael** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

hi ken

getting b&c module free from levans, so choice is made, my alternator was
quoted with regulator and they will eat the cost, good deal eh !!

mike

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Mike
Sure the B&C unit is very good and will outlast your airplane.
However the VR166 regulator from your local auto parts store will do the
job a lot cheaper if you don't mind a bit less reliability. Personally
since you already have the crowbar overvoltage protector I'd probably
use the VR166 as they are cheap enough that you could keep a spare in
stock if you wanted.
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

hi ken

i have the b&c crowbar overvolt protection item, but as Niagara airparts
does not sell their internal regulated alternator i now have the b&c unit
and need regulator, b&c have good unit but not cheap !! but it is very

good,

with monitors for bus voltage as well, is this the unit you refer to that
you think is the best way to go

thanks

mike

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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:13 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

Mike
Excellant as an external regulator allows complete control of the
alternator and the simple additon of overvoltage protection. That is the
preferred way to do it IMO. Many guys use a automotive regulator.
Standard part VR166 for example at about $40. is shown in aeroelectric
Z-23 diagram. I'd personally favour a solid state one since they have
some built in temperature compensation.
Chrylser also used to use a cheap solid state unit through the 1970's.
The VR166 or equivalent is popular however. B&C sell the overvoltage
protector for about $35. which I'd recommend
Ken .

Jones, Michael wrote:

hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for

voltage

regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Angus McKenzie · Post by **Angus McKenzie** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

Hi Guy
Homemade mounting brackets for both the starter and alternator
(Nippondenso/Honda).
The Toyota truck starter is in a one-piece milled solid bracket, I'll look
for pictures.
The alternator mount is made from welded 1" flat-bar with the Delco/Citabria
pulley installed.
And, I'm using a Ford voltage regulator on the fire-wall..........Angus

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Angus, what did you use for a bracket for the Toyota starter?
I made one for ours, but not happy with it.
Thanks

Guy Lamarche

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Me too. With a Toyota starter.....Angus

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Same here. Got mine from a wrecker out of an old Chevy Sprint. No
problems
for 450+ hours. I think it cost me about 30 bucks.

Walter

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I'm using a nipondenso alternator with a built in regulator works great.

At 09:09 AM 7/31/2006 -0400, you wrote: voltage Drew

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Mike Kimball · Post by **Mike Kimball** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:00 am

That sounds pretty light. Not much past finger tight. Do you mean foot
pounds?

Mike

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Michael
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great thanks steve, i have those books did not see it, will have to read
again

mike#007

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steve whitenect
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For the conical mounts, Tony Bing says 40-60 inch pounds

Steve W.

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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:17:30 -0400

hey angus,drew

i have asked this before but never got answer, what is tongue value for
engine mounting bolts, that's the an8's for engine to frame mounting ??

mike

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Angus McKenzie
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:48 AM
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Me too. With a Toyota starter.....Angus

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From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:53 AM
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Same here. Got mine from a wrecker out of an old Chevy Sprint. No
problems
for 450+ hours. I think it cost me about 30 bucks.

Walter

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Drew
Dalgleish
Sent: July 31, 2006 6:45 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

I'm using a nipondenso alternator with a built in regulator works great.

At 09:09 AM 7/31/2006 -0400, you wrote:
hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for
voltage
regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:07 am

On my personal Rebel I hunted down the socket from a junk car and obtained a
new Regulator for a Honda Civic. Much better control than the Chrysler style
ON/OFF style generally used. Also has output for the alternator fail idiot
light and very good voltage control. My Gill 25 battery lasted from when
obtained '94..installed and first flown June '95 and I removed it last year
when I moved the battery to the back of the tailcone. I then installed the
removed battery in my f-in-laws 701 and it lasted another year before it
wouldn't turn his 912S this spring....so 11+ seasons...generally unheard of
with aircraft batteries...so the regulator must be doing a good job. Takes a
bit of work and a Honda Civic wiring diagram to wire up though and 10 years
later I'm not sure where the wiring diagram is.

Wayne

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Subject: [rebel-builders] voltage regulators

hi all

i have b&c 40 amp alternator and am wonder what others are using for
voltage
regulator ?? the b&c controller/regulator is way to much money, several
hundred dollars

mike#007

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