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Phil and Lisa,

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Yea! Kinda cheap, that was my thought. I'll replace mine with something else
too.

Bruce G

BRUCE
Check out Aircraft Spruce part#P/N A-600 or Wicks aircraft supply part#A-600.
They're both the same price might be different. Nice little units screw in
right at the top of you're master cylinders. You need two one for the left
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[Mike Kimball]

I'm planning on using a small, metal can (just about anything will do) that
I will drill a hole in and attach a good fitting near the bottom. I may
keep the crappy plastic one from Murphy to use as a small funnel, or
conversation piece or something.

Mike Kimball
SR#044

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Mike, It worked for Piper so why not! All Piper used was all the empty 1
pint brake fluid cans (like the EP420 catalyst can) with a fitting on the
lower side that is put through the firewall, with the can straped to the
engine side!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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keep the crappy plastic one from Murphy to use as a small funnel, or
conversation piece or something.

Mike Kimball
SR#044

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That's where I got the idea. From the Piper Arrow and Cherokee 180 I used
to own.

Mike

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Mike, It worked for Piper so why not! All Piper used was all the empty 1
pint brake fluid cans (like the EP420 catalyst can) with a fitting on the
lower side that is put through the firewall, with the can straped to the
engine side!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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that

I will drill a hole in and attach a good fitting near the bottom. I may
keep the crappy plastic one from Murphy to use as a small funnel, or
conversation piece or something.

Mike Kimball
SR#044

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[Dave Qualley]

This is one thing that's been irking me for a while now.. The kit comes with
the Brake Reservoir, brake lines, etc.. But they are all of a cheap quality..
Having had the opportunity to see the factory planes in various states of
construction, I know that Murphy doesn't even use these cheap parts that they
are supplying with the kits on their own planes.

The SR3500 has a metal can with a screw top, and a threaded flange on the
bottom for a brake reservoir. The brake and fuel lines on the Elite and SR3500
are all Stainless Steel covered teflon hose, rather than the flimsy looking
plastic tubing..

I guess it keeps the initial cost of the kit down, but I wonder how many
builders are just throwing away these parts when it comes time to use them?

The cheaper parts might be adequate for the job.. But I wish there were some
options from the factory to upgrade them when the kit is ordered, or to not
include them at all..

Dave


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Mike

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Mike, It worked for Piper so why not! All Piper used was all the empty 1
pint brake fluid cans (like the EP420 catalyst can) with a fitting on the
lower side that is put through the firewall, with the can straped to the
engine side!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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that

I will drill a hole in and attach a good fitting near the bottom. I may
keep the crappy plastic one from Murphy to use as a small funnel, or
conversation piece or something.

Mike Kimball
SR#044

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[Drew and Jan]

Yea really cheap. Mine has leaked since day one. I think it was designed
that way to prevent corrossion between the stainless and aluminum. ;-}
Drew

At 10:50 PM 4/22/01 EDT, you wrote:

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Yea! Kinda cheap, that was my thought. I'll replace mine with something

else

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Bruce G



BRUCE
Check out Aircraft Spruce part#P/N A-600 or Wicks aircraft supply

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They're both the same price might be different. Nice little units screw in
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and one right. work real good small light weight and less plumbing less

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Cheer up Dave !

I really have NO problem with the plastic brake lines - in
fact, I prefer them to metal, as you can see bubbles, and they don't
fatigue-crack nearly as easily. ALL of the factory airplanes have
had the plastic brake and float retraction lines, and the plastic
fluid reservoirs, except the last 2 that you mention. All of my Rebels
have/had these lines, and Number 1 is still flying happily after
11 years ...

The last 2 demos were 'tricked out' with leather interiors
and several other options to show something like what an ambitious
builder might do, rather than the sparsely functional demos of
previous years. It's just a different approach, but the original
plastic lines are just fine for the job, and easier to install.

My latest Rebel came with metal brake lines and flex hose
sections, and lots of couplers. I wish the original builder hadn't
done that !! It makes it VERY hard to install fairings, and those
hoses will be expensive to replace - I'd be MUCH happier with the
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sign of trouble with these ...)

.....bobp

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This is one thing that's been irking me for a while now.. The kit comes with
the Brake Reservoir, brake lines, etc.. But they are all of a cheap quality..
Having had the opportunity to see the factory planes in various states of
construction, I know that Murphy doesn't even use these cheap parts that they
are supplying with the kits on their own planes.

The SR3500 has a metal can with a screw top, and a threaded flange on the
bottom for a brake reservoir. The brake and fuel lines on the Elite and SR3500
are all Stainless Steel covered teflon hose, rather than the flimsy looking
plastic tubing..

I guess it keeps the initial cost of the kit down, but I wonder how many
builders are just throwing away these parts when it comes time to use them?

The cheaper parts might be adequate for the job.. But I wish there were some
options from the factory to upgrade them when the kit is ordered, or to not
include them at all..

Dave


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Mike

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pint brake fluid cans (like the EP420 catalyst can) with a fitting on the
lower side that is put through the firewall, with the can straped to the
engine side!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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that

I will drill a hole in and attach a good fitting near the bottom. I may
keep the crappy plastic one from Murphy to use as a small funnel, or
conversation piece or something.

Mike Kimball
SR#044

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Ditto to that, as I had to pay for those new flex lines Bob is talking about
(that go from fus to leg) at $79.95 each (I bought a full box (250 feet) of
the 1/4" Parker nylon line for less than that!) as the original builder did
the ala Cessna and hooked solid steel lines directly to the fuselage side
with the bungee gear legs (just a crack waiting to happen!). The plastic
line is good for 3000 psi so don't worry about it bursting. Like Bob says it
also makes brake bleeding a charm as you can see any bubbles and "tap" them
up the line to, and through, the pedal cylinders. It also bends a fairly
sharp radius without kinking, so negates the necessity for elbows and
fittings. Put a short length of 1/4" I.D. rubber hose over it where it goes
through the fuselage belly to protect it. Do not just use a grommet!

The big plus to this "cheap" product for you Bush seekers is that if you
carry a couple of union fittings in your tool bag, then a knife and a
leatherman tool will get you back on your way if you nick a line. Try that
if you crack a metal line on a back country strip. We all know there is only
one thing worse than a taildragger with no brakes and that is one with only
ONE brake!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
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Cheer up Dave !

I really have NO problem with the plastic brake lines - in
fact, I prefer them to metal, as you can see bubbles, and they don't
fatigue-crack nearly as easily. ALL of the factory airplanes have
had the plastic brake and float retraction lines, and the plastic
fluid reservoirs, except the last 2 that you mention. All of my Rebels
have/had these lines, and Number 1 is still flying happily after
11 years ...

The last 2 demos were 'tricked out' with leather interiors
and several other options to show something like what an ambitious
builder might do, rather than the sparsely functional demos of
previous years. It's just a different approach, but the original
plastic lines are just fine for the job, and easier to install.

My latest Rebel came with metal brake lines and flex hose
sections, and lots of couplers. I wish the original builder hadn't
done that !! It makes it VERY hard to install fairings, and those
hoses will be expensive to replace - I'd be MUCH happier with the
clear plastic lines !!! (and will likely go that way at the first
sign of trouble with these ...)

.....bobp

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This is one thing that's been irking me for a while now.. The kit comes

with

the Brake Reservoir, brake lines, etc.. But they are all of a cheap

quality..

Having had the opportunity to see the factory planes in various states of
construction, I know that Murphy doesn't even use these cheap parts that

they

are supplying with the kits on their own planes.

The SR3500 has a metal can with a screw top, and a threaded flange on the
bottom for a brake reservoir. The brake and fuel lines on the Elite and

SR3500

are all Stainless Steel covered teflon hose, rather than the flimsy

looking

plastic tubing..

I guess it keeps the initial cost of the kit down, but I wonder how many
builders are just throwing away these parts when it comes time to use

them?

The cheaper parts might be adequate for the job.. But I wish there were

some

options from the factory to upgrade them when the kit is ordered, or to

not

include them at all..

Dave


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Mike

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Mike, It worked for Piper so why not! All Piper used was all the empty

1

pint brake fluid cans (like the EP420 catalyst can) with a fitting on

the

lower side that is put through the firewall, with the can straped to

the

engine side!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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[LisaFly99]

In a message dated 4/23/01 7:34:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
dqualley@home.com writes:

This is one thing that's been irking me for a while now.. The kit comes with
the Brake Reservoir, brake lines, etc

DAVE
I used the supplied brake lines that are made of Teflon or Tygon. Routing and
looks in the cabin area would have been much neater using braided brake
lines, But the supplied lines will work good. Don't know the life expectancy
of the Teflon tubing where it's exposed to ultra violet rays though. The
plastic brake reservoir supplied was the ONLY gripe I had about the hole kit.
I just couldn't see strapping it to the firewall and the extra plumbing to
the two master cylinders. I enjoyed building the plane I enjoyed dealing with
the people at MAM they where always informative and helpful. BUT they can
take that little plastic reservoir and put it where the sun don't shine cause
it wasn't going in MY plane..
Phil&Lisa Smith #460 N414D

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Anybody looked under the hood of their $80,000 Suburban or $200,000 "Beamer" and complained to the dealer lately?? They ALL have plastic brake reservoirs, as does my older 1990 T-Bird SC that has both a plastic brake reservoir and a plastic hydraulic clutch reservoir jammed under that hood with the Supercharger and intercooler lines running all around them. They still haven't fallen apart after 12+ years!

I do agree that the old 2" square bottle is a little "mystical" though. The bottle itself is great, but the screwy little spigot has to be carefully coaxed to the right tightness to seal it off, but not to crush it. Mounting it is easy. Just use a length of stainless gear clamp strap (or similar) in a "U" around it and rivet/bolt to firewall. The indent fits the width of the gear clamp material beautifully.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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From: LisaFly99@aol.com (LisaFly99@aol.com)
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com (murphy-rebel@dcsol.com)
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: Brake reservoirs


In a message dated 4/23/01 7:34:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
dqualley@home.com (dqualley@home.com) writes:

This is one thing that's been irking me for a while now.. The kit comes with
the Brake Reservoir, brake lines, etc

DAVE
I used the supplied brake lines that are made of Teflon or Tygon. Routing and
looks in the cabin area would have been much neater using braided brake
lines, But the supplied lines will work good. Don't know the life expectancy
of the Teflon tubing where it's exposed to ultra violet rays though. The
plastic brake reservoir supplied was the ONLY gripe I had about the hole kit.
I just couldn't see strapping it to the firewall and the extra plumbing to
the two master cylinders. I enjoyed building the plane I enjoyed dealing with
the people at MAM they where always informative and helpful. BUT they can
take that little plastic reservoir and put it where the sun don't shine cause
it wasn't going in MY plane..
Phil&Lisa Smith #460 N414D

[Legeorgen]

Phil and Lisa,

Thanks for the tip on the brake reservoir. I'll check them out.

Bruce G




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[Legeorgen]

Bob,

I agree with you about the plastic brake lines. I don't mind them and they
are lite and see through for easy maintenance. But even my Kitfox came with
an aluminum reservoir with screw top and fitting in the bottom. And a bracket
to attach it to the firewall.

Bruce G




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