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bob.patterson

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Post by bob.patterson » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

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Subject: Re: sensinich props


Hi Bruce !

I'm totally satisfied with my prop, at 56", on the 150 hp
O-320. It will just hit 2,700 rpm in level flight - first time
I've EVER had a Lyc. that would actually turn to red line !!

It climbs like crazy (over 1,200 fpm), and cruises about
118 mph, with no gear leg fairings, which wil add another 10 mph,
when I get them on...

My firewall is NOT cut back, and the CofG is just over 8",
and there's NO problem with the handling, even low on fuel & solo !
This arrangement is great, because everything you put inside moves
the CofG back, so there's no problem with the large stacks of
camping gear I carry !

Generally, wood props will not perform as well as metal -
perhaps 5% (or more) less efficient. They also require more care,
especially outside. I would go with the Sensenich metal prop...
(If you use the <standard> cowl, you won't need that 2" spacer)

.....bobp

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If I read your description about Howard's Rebel and his 74x52 Sensenich, and
he keeps up with the 160 HP Rebels with Warp drives (assuming the WD are
pitched for max cruise at red line), then the Sensenich 74x56 is the ticket
of choice, one would think. I am still waffling on the prop choice. Metal is
not an option for me (I'll change someday if I get floats), I'm afraid of the
C&G. But I am considering a wood Sensenich 74x56. Is it reasonable to assume
similar performance from the wood prop? The price is right too!

Bruce G
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bob.patterson

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Post by bob.patterson » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

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Hi Bruce !
30 lb. !!????

You mean they say that the wood prop only weighs 10 lb. !!!???

......bobp

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Both Sensenich wood and metal prop shops said the metal blade out performs
the wood blade by 2 or 3%. The metal prop has a smaller cord and is a more
efficient airfoil. I think 3% is not a bad tradeoff for 30 lb. difference in
useful load, not to mention what it does to the C of G. The question becomes
will it out perform a WD?

Bruce G

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Wayne G. O'Shea

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Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

That's about right Bob! My Collin Walker wood prop , that I originally had
on my Rebel in 1995, only weighs 9.67 pounds (complete with 6 bolts and
crush plate)!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

P.S. Tired of feeding that round engine oil yet!?!?!?

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Hi Bruce !
30 lb. !!????

You mean they say that the wood prop only weighs 10 lb. !!!???

......bobp

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performs
the wood blade by 2 or 3%. The metal prop has a smaller cord and is a
more
efficient airfoil. I think 3% is not a bad tradeoff for 30 lb. difference
in
useful load, not to mention what it does to the C of G. The question
becomes
will it out perform a WD?

Bruce G
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Post by bob.patterson » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

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I'm surprised they're that light, including the plate !


PS
Not yet, but it sure is thirsty !! It's good exercise !
Does it EVER climb !!!!!

......bobp

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That's about right Bob! My Collin Walker wood prop , that I originally had
on my Rebel in 1995, only weighs 9.67 pounds (complete with 6 bolts and
crush plate)!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

P.S. Tired of feeding that round engine oil yet!?!?!?

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Hi Bruce !
30 lb. !!????

You mean they say that the wood prop only weighs 10 lb. !!!???

......bobp

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performs
the wood blade by 2 or 3%. The metal prop has a smaller cord and is a
more
efficient airfoil. I think 3% is not a bad tradeoff for 30 lb. difference
in
useful load, not to mention what it does to the C of G. The question
becomes
will it out perform a WD?

Bruce G
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Wayne G. O'Shea

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Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

I imagine that the Sensenich wood prop is a <little> heavier (but not much),
as I suspect they use a little heavier grade of wood and more laminates/glue
than the 4 board Collin Walker props!!!

Wayne

P.S. Might need to get down and see this oil drinking/throwing? beast in
person!

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I'm surprised they're that light, including the plate !


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Does it EVER climb !!!!!

......bobp

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That's about right Bob! My Collin Walker wood prop , that I originally
had
on my Rebel in 1995, only weighs 9.67 pounds (complete with 6 bolts and
crush plate)!

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

P.S. Tired of feeding that round engine oil yet!?!?!?

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Hi Bruce !
30 lb. !!????

You mean they say that the wood prop only weighs 10 lb. !!!???

......bobp
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Post by Legeorgen » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

Thanks Bob, for the feed back. I have lots to consider. I guess I don't need
the prop right away, I can build the cowl without it for now.

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Post by Legeorgen » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

Bob, I did use the speed cowl. I liked the looks of it much better and was
anticipating a light prop like the WD at the time. To late to switch now.

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Post by Legeorgen » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:55 pm

Bob,

That's right, the wood prop weighs 10 lb. with crush plate and bolts! Had
two different Sensenich people tell me that in two conversations two months
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