Hi Bruce,
This is the other Bruce. Welcome to the Rebel forum. You will find lots of
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Has any one found, or been using, a spin on oil filter short enough to fit
between the firewall and the 0320 engine? It seems to me this would be
simpler, less cluttered, weigh less and be less expensive than a remote oil
filter. I checked the Champion web page, and they don't make one short
enough. It would need to be no longer than four inches total to allow easy
removal and replacement. I was thinking maybe an auto filter. Is there a
problem with using an auto filter with the Lycoming? would they even fit?
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Thanks for the welcome,
On the RV planes we would cut a hole in the firewall and rivit in a stainless steel bowl to give room for the filtor to be changed.
A friend of mine used to run auto type filtors on his 0-320 but they were an industrial grade, Cant remember the application. Be carefull as the automotive type are thinner and can split open with the pressure and vibration of the lycoming engine.
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On the RV planes we would cut a hole in the firewall and rivit in a stainless steel bowl to give room for the filtor to be changed.
A friend of mine used to run auto type filtors on his 0-320 but they were an industrial grade, Cant remember the application. Be carefull as the automotive type are thinner and can split open with the pressure and vibration of the lycoming engine.
Bruce
Hi Bruce,
This is the other Bruce. Welcome to the Rebel forum. You will find lots of
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reservation about pushing this or that for liability reasons... perhaps.
Has any one found, or been using, a spin on oil filter short enough to fit
between the firewall and the 0320 engine? It seems to me this would be
simpler, less cluttered, weigh less and be less expensive than a remote oil
filter. I checked the Champion web page, and they don't make one short
enough. It would need to be no longer than four inches total to allow easy
removal and replacement. I was thinking maybe an auto filter. Is there a
problem with using an auto filter with the Lycoming? would they even fit?
Bruce G
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Oil filter 0320
Legeorgen@cs.com wrote:
The Lycoming O235-L2C that is hung on my Long-EZ came with an oil screen. On
an EZ, there is very little room between the screen pad area and the firewall
(and I mean little room!!!). To make oil changes MUCH easier and less
frequent, I decided to install a remote (Cessna type) oil filter assembly. The
assembly uses large #8 AN fittings and hoses. Cost of the assembly was around
$350.00 US (just the fittings were around $75.00 US!)
To make a short story long . . . a couple years after installation I decided
to do some soul searching concerning the increased weight issue and potential
vulernable (sp) hoses and fittings. I made the decision to purchase a B&C (90
degree - one piece) oil filter adapter. This unit is a work of art.
Beautifully machined out of a single solid block of aluminum, it bolts
directly to the oil screen pad. Installation is a snap with no fittings and no
hoses (big weight saver too). I highly recommend B&C. It gets the filter away
from the firewall, up on top where access is perfect.
Filter changes are relatively clean with the use of plastic wrapped around the
base of the loosened filter. (I usually punch a hole in the cannister the day
before I change oil and let the residual cannister oil drain into the sump).
Having a full flow filter should help extend the life of the engine, while
allowing you to extend the 25-hour oil change interval to 50 hours with a
clear conscience.
As usual, small airplane part equals BIG bucks (I think I paid $390.00 US).
I'm not sure if this setup will take care of your space problem on your O320
Rebel, but it might be worth looking into. Call or email the factory with
your specific questions. If your problem can be solved with this unit and
budget allows, I highly recommend them.
I also installed a B&C starter on the Long-EZ. It saved massive weight where
it counts and has worked flawlessly for years. Another beautiful piece of
equipment.
Customer support is excellent also.
Here is their web site address: http://www.bandcspecialty.com/
Good luck. Have fun.
Your Pilot Pal,
Terry Dazey
Rebel 662
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"The Other Bruce"
Has any one found, or been using, a spin on oil filter short enough to fit
between the firewall and the 0320 engine?
The Lycoming O235-L2C that is hung on my Long-EZ came with an oil screen. On
an EZ, there is very little room between the screen pad area and the firewall
(and I mean little room!!!). To make oil changes MUCH easier and less
frequent, I decided to install a remote (Cessna type) oil filter assembly. The
assembly uses large #8 AN fittings and hoses. Cost of the assembly was around
$350.00 US (just the fittings were around $75.00 US!)
To make a short story long . . . a couple years after installation I decided
to do some soul searching concerning the increased weight issue and potential
vulernable (sp) hoses and fittings. I made the decision to purchase a B&C (90
degree - one piece) oil filter adapter. This unit is a work of art.
Beautifully machined out of a single solid block of aluminum, it bolts
directly to the oil screen pad. Installation is a snap with no fittings and no
hoses (big weight saver too). I highly recommend B&C. It gets the filter away
from the firewall, up on top where access is perfect.
Filter changes are relatively clean with the use of plastic wrapped around the
base of the loosened filter. (I usually punch a hole in the cannister the day
before I change oil and let the residual cannister oil drain into the sump).
Having a full flow filter should help extend the life of the engine, while
allowing you to extend the 25-hour oil change interval to 50 hours with a
clear conscience.
As usual, small airplane part equals BIG bucks (I think I paid $390.00 US).
I'm not sure if this setup will take care of your space problem on your O320
Rebel, but it might be worth looking into. Call or email the factory with
your specific questions. If your problem can be solved with this unit and
budget allows, I highly recommend them.
I also installed a B&C starter on the Long-EZ. It saved massive weight where
it counts and has worked flawlessly for years. Another beautiful piece of
equipment.
Customer support is excellent also.
Here is their web site address: http://www.bandcspecialty.com/
Good luck. Have fun.
Your Pilot Pal,
Terry Dazey
Rebel 662
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Rick DeCiero
Oil filter 0320
The B & C oil filter adaptor looks good and I am considering one. The oil
filter spins off from the top and I have to check the clearance to the
MAC speed cowl. B & C has a drawing showing the clearance. On an O-320
using a short champion CH48108, the filter sticks up 1.75 from the top
of the rear accessory case. One aside to this is that if you are running
an electronic tach, the transducer will need to be remotely mounted due
to the tight clearance from the adaptor to the tach drive output. Van's
aircraft has a real nice electronic tach that you can get with a 12"
extention cable and you can mount the transducer on the firewall. Get
the transducer for use with a vacuum pump installed, this gets you the
12" extension cable. About $40.00 tach about $65.00 for transducer.
www.vansaircraft.com
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filter spins off from the top and I have to check the clearance to the
MAC speed cowl. B & C has a drawing showing the clearance. On an O-320
using a short champion CH48108, the filter sticks up 1.75 from the top
of the rear accessory case. One aside to this is that if you are running
an electronic tach, the transducer will need to be remotely mounted due
to the tight clearance from the adaptor to the tach drive output. Van's
aircraft has a real nice electronic tach that you can get with a 12"
extention cable and you can mount the transducer on the firewall. Get
the transducer for use with a vacuum pump installed, this gets you the
12" extension cable. About $40.00 tach about $65.00 for transducer.
www.vansaircraft.com
Terry Dazey wrote:
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"The Other Bruce"Has any one found, or been using, a spin on oil filter short enough to fit
between the firewall and the 0320 engine?
The Lycoming O235-L2C that is hung on my Long-EZ came with an oil screen. On
an EZ, there is very little room between the screen pad area and the firewall
(and I mean little room!!!). To make oil changes MUCH easier and less
frequent, I decided to install a remote (Cessna type) oil filter assembly. The
assembly uses large #8 AN fittings and hoses. Cost of the assembly was around
$350.00 US (just the fittings were around $75.00 US!)
To make a short story long . . . a couple years after installation I decided
to do some soul searching concerning the increased weight issue and potential
vulernable (sp) hoses and fittings. I made the decision to purchase a B&C (90
degree - one piece) oil filter adapter. This unit is a work of art.
Beautifully machined out of a single solid block of aluminum, it bolts
directly to the oil screen pad. Installation is a snap with no fittings and no
hoses (big weight saver too). I highly recommend B&C. It gets the filter away
from the firewall, up on top where access is perfect.
Filter changes are relatively clean with the use of plastic wrapped around the
base of the loosened filter. (I usually punch a hole in the cannister the day
before I change oil and let the residual cannister oil drain into the sump).
Having a full flow filter should help extend the life of the engine, while
allowing you to extend the 25-hour oil change interval to 50 hours with a
clear conscience.
As usual, small airplane part equals BIG bucks (I think I paid $390.00 US).
I'm not sure if this setup will take care of your space problem on your O320
Rebel, but it might be worth looking into. Call or email the factory with
your specific questions. If your problem can be solved with this unit and
budget allows, I highly recommend them.
I also installed a B&C starter on the Long-EZ. It saved massive weight where
it counts and has worked flawlessly for years. Another beautiful piece of
equipment.
Customer support is excellent also.
Here is their web site address: http://www.bandcspecialty.com/
Good luck. Have fun.
Your Pilot Pal,
Terry Dazey
Rebel 662
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My O-290 came with a screen. I found that a remote filter set-up used on
off-road VW's works great. I had braided hoses made at a local hydraulics
shop. The filter adapter uses a Ford filter which is very common. Total
cost was less than $75.
Bill N
Rebel 376
off-road VW's works great. I had braided hoses made at a local hydraulics
shop. The filter adapter uses a Ford filter which is very common. Total
cost was less than $75.
Bill N
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Bruce
The Rebel has a witches hat reinforcing the firewall at the position of the
filter, preventing the bowl fix Tony B writes about in his book "Firewall
Forward." Any info on the friend with the industrial filter?
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Bruce
I havent seen the guy in quite a wile as he moved away. I lost a lot of notes and info on that kind of stuff when our house burned down 1 1/2 years ago. Will see what i can find out.
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I havent seen the guy in quite a wile as he moved away. I lost a lot of notes and info on that kind of stuff when our house burned down 1 1/2 years ago. Will see what i can find out.
Bruce
Bruce
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Drew and Jan
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Bill I'm using the same set up with it plumbed in line with my oil cooler.
Are you still using the screen as well or did you remove it? I've been told
I should keep the screen in place because there's no oil flow through the
cooler when it's cold. My local AME has lots of used sevicable AN fittings
that he sells cheaper than I can by hydraulic fittings for.
Drew
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Are you still using the screen as well or did you remove it? I've been told
I should keep the screen in place because there's no oil flow through the
cooler when it's cold. My local AME has lots of used sevicable AN fittings
that he sells cheaper than I can by hydraulic fittings for.
Drew
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I had braided hoses made at a local hydraulics
Total
cost was less than $75.
Bill N
Rebel 376
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BILNEWKIRK
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Drew;
I found a used adapter that replaces the screen. It takes a filter, but
because there is so little room between it and the firewall, I connected the
VW adapter there.
Bill
I found a used adapter that replaces the screen. It takes a filter, but
because there is so little room between it and the firewall, I connected the
VW adapter there.
Bill
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Terry,
I contacted B&C today after checking out their product on the net (thanks for
the web address). I order the 90 degree accessory for the filter. They are
still $395 plus $50 if you need a spacer. I much prefer this to the remote
type filter for all the reasons you expressed. I think more Rebel or RV
builders would use this set up if they knew of it. Thanks for the tip!
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I contacted B&C today after checking out their product on the net (thanks for
the web address). I order the 90 degree accessory for the filter. They are
still $395 plus $50 if you need a spacer. I much prefer this to the remote
type filter for all the reasons you expressed. I think more Rebel or RV
builders would use this set up if they knew of it. Thanks for the tip!
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Rick,
According to B&C the filter sets at the 10 o'clock position so as to not
interfere with the tack cable. The biggest problem is the extra engine mount
brace (on the Rebel) that may require a spacer to move the filter back
another inch or two, depending on need.
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According to B&C the filter sets at the 10 o'clock position so as to not
interfere with the tack cable. The biggest problem is the extra engine mount
brace (on the Rebel) that may require a spacer to move the filter back
another inch or two, depending on need.
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Bill,
After discussing the Auto filter option with some mechanic friends, I pretty
much decided against it. After all it's just money, right? What's another
$400 any way.
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After discussing the Auto filter option with some mechanic friends, I pretty
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$400 any way.
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Bruce:
When I get to the engine installation point in my project, I am going to use all
B&C stuff. Lightweight starter, oil filter adapter and alternator. I think
(with a little help from some friends) I have convinced myself to keep the O320
in the stock location and not move it back the MAM's suggested 3 inches.
Therefore, the lighter up front the better.
Good luck on the project.
Your Pilot Pal,
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When I get to the engine installation point in my project, I am going to use all
B&C stuff. Lightweight starter, oil filter adapter and alternator. I think
(with a little help from some friends) I have convinced myself to keep the O320
in the stock location and not move it back the MAM's suggested 3 inches.
Therefore, the lighter up front the better.
Good luck on the project.
Your Pilot Pal,
Terry Dazey
Rebel 662
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Terry,
I contacted B&C today after checking out their product on the net
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