Re Rebel Tailwheel etc

Rick Harper · Post by **Rick Harper** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:46 pm

G'day Everyone !

Thanks for the many informative answers to our questions regarding the "Tailwheel Mods"
and the ground handling handles.

1) It appears we HAVE the "Tailwheel Mod" ....as we have a full swivelling tailwheel.....
I assumed that there was a modification that had to be done to the full swivelling wheel to make
it work correctly....apparently not (apart from leaving the springs loose...HOW LOOSE ?)

Point : With the tail of the Rebel suspended in the air (so the wheel is off the deck)....depressing
the rudder pedal fully to either side DOESN'T rotate the tailwheel anywhere near enough
to make it "break free" ??? ..........is this normal ?

I would have assumed that the tailwheel should break free just as the rudder gets to
it's full deflection point.....yes / no ?

2) It seems that Ground handling handles are the preferred method....less hassles with stressing
the rear end of the plane.

Does anyone out there have a diagram for making these retractable handles ?
(I could whip one up out of the top of my head ...but I'd really like to see other points
of view as well).

Hope you guys liked the pic's of our shrouded tailwheel assembly !

Thanks again.

Rick & Wendy Harper
16 Tor rd, Dee Why,
N.S.W. 2099
Australia
rjwh@ozemail.com.au (rjwh@ozemail.com.au)
rjwh56@hotmail.com (rjwh56@hotmail.com)
Ph : 02 9971 7889
Mbl : 0416 041 007
O'seas Ph : 612 9971 7889

Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:46 pm

Hi Rick !

1. How loose .... about 1/2" of sag ...

Sounds normal - it's the extra side load from the turn
that will force the tailwheel over farther, then 'kick' it out. Part
of the trick is to start the turn with a bit of extra speed, then stab
on a bit of brake on the 'in' side, to tighten the turn and help force
the tailwheel to disengage.

2. The handles I've seen are pipes extending out from the sides
of the fuselage, about half-way up, secured to the bulkhead in front
of the stabilizer. There are doubler plates on the fuse sides, and the
tubes have pins on the inner ends, so they can be pushed into the
fuse and half-turned to lock in the retracted position. Gord Mohr
and Keith Kinden both sell very nicely made kits for these.

.....bobp

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At 05:49 PM 2/18/01 +1100, you wrote:

G'day Everyone !

Thanks for the many informative answers to our questions regarding the

"Tailwheel Mods"

and the ground handling handles.

1) It appears we HAVE the "Tailwheel Mod" ....as we have a full swivelling

tailwheel.....

I assumed that there was a modification that had to be done to the full

swivelling wheel to make

it work correctly....apparently not (apart from leaving the springs

loose...HOW LOOSE ?)

Point : With the tail of the Rebel suspended in the air (so the wheel is

off the deck)....depressing

the rudder pedal fully to either side DOESN'T rotate the

tailwheel anywhere near enough

to make it "break free" ??? ..........is this normal ?

I would have assumed that the tailwheel should break free just

as the rudder gets to

it's full deflection point.....yes / no ?

2) It seems that Ground handling handles are the preferred method....less

hassles with stressing

the rear end of the plane.

Does anyone out there have a diagram for making these retractable handles ?
(I could whip one up out of the top of my head ...but I'd really like

to see other points

of view as well).

Hope you guys liked the pic's of our shrouded tailwheel assembly !

Thanks again.

Rick & Wendy Harper
16 Tor rd, Dee Why,
N.S.W. 2099
Australia
rjwh@ozemail.com.au
rjwh56@hotmail.com
Ph : 02 9971 7889
Mbl : 0416 041 007
O'seas Ph : 612 9971 7889

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<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>G'day Everyone !</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>    Thanks for the many informative

answers

to our questions regarding the "Tailwheel Mods"</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>and the ground handling handles.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>1) It appears we HAVE the "Tailwheel Mod" ....as we

have a

full swivelling tailwheel.....</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>I assumed that there was a modification that had to be
done to the full swivelling wheel to make</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>it work correctly....apparently not (apart from leaving
the springs loose...HOW LOOSE ?)</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>Point : With the tail of the Rebel suspended in the air
(so the wheel is off the deck)....depressing </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>           
the rudder pedal fully to either side DOESN'T rotate the tailwheel anywhere

near

enough</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>           
to make it "break free" ??? ..........is this normal ?</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>       

    I

would have assumed that the tailwheel should break free just as the rudder

gets

to</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>           
it's full deflection point.....yes / no ?</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>2)  It seems that Ground handling handles are the
preferred method....less hassles with stressing</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>           
the rear end of the plane.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>    Does anyone out there have a diagram
for making these retractable handles ?</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>    (I could whip one up out of the

top of

my head ...but I'd really like to see other points </FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>    of view as well).</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>Hope you guys liked the pic's of our shrouded tailwheel
assembly !</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><EM>Thanks again.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>Rick & Wendy Harper<BR>16 Tor rd, Dee Why,

<BR>N.S.W.

2099<BR>Australia<BR><A
href="mailto:rjwh@ozemail.com.au">rjwh@ozemail.com.au</A><BR><A
href="mailto:rjwh56@hotmail.com">rjwh56@hotmail.com</A><BR>Ph : 02 9971 7889
<BR>Mbl : 0416 041 007<BR>O'seas Ph : 612 9971
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Legeorgen · Post by **Legeorgen** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:46 pm

Rick,

A set of these retractable handles, Bob P. described, came with my "resale
kit," so I installed them and am pleases with the way they worked. I don't
know how much they cost but I can bet, from looking at mine, you would be
better off buying a pair rather than trying to design and build your own.

Bruce G
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