[rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

[Mike Davis]

No, this was actually a user account on the archives that has been there since 2008... don't know if it was the original user, or if someone figured out his password.

The new system I'm moving towards will actually be better I think, even though we are going to lose the "email list"... that's right... everyone is going to have to go to a website to post their messages. You will be able to subscribe to get updates emailed to you, but you won't be able to post anymore. But it will be a much better system over all from a user stand point. Accurate message threads, inbedded images and videos... a much better (even when it was working) search capability.

Keep an eye on http://www.rebelbuilders.net. I'll be working on it off and on through the weekend... and expect to have the old system shut down in the next week or so.

I intend to make the new system a closed system... meaning I will have to manually add all the users. It will be a little more work for me initially, but not a lot... but it will ensure we don't get the spammers on it like most forum sites do.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of jessejenks72@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Mike,
My hotmail account was sending spam a few months ago, and was subsequently blocked by hotmail. I was locked out and lost all my contacts and some important emails. I haven't had access to it since, but I hope thats not what is causing this.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] What a mess!
Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 10:20 am


As I m sure most of you have noticed by now, the list server hasn t been working 100% this last week duplicate messages, long delays before your posts showed up etc.



Well I finally got a chance to dig into it this morning, and all I can say is what a mess!



Unfortunately for all of you, it also means a change to the way I will run the system. The change is just this no more personal accounts. The only way to view the archives from this point forward, is to use the public account. Just as a reminder, the public account has a username of rebel , and a password of builder .



For most of you this is not really that big a deal, but for about 30 or so of you that were using your dcsol.com account to receive list messages, it means you re going to have to subscribe again with some other email account.
You can setup a gmail or yahoo account, or any one of the free accounts if you don t want to use your primary email account but all the dcsol.com accounts have been deleted, and the site is now closed. By closed I don t mean it s gone, I simply mean you cannot create new accounts anymore.



This also means, that you will no longer be able to post messages directly to the web site you must post all messages via email to the list server rebel-builders@dcsol.com



For the few of you that used NNTP to access the archives, contact me directly and we ll see about setting something up so that will work for you again. But for now nobody will be able to access the news server because all the accounts have been deleted. What I may end up doing is opening it up to the public in read only and still requiring posts to come in via email.



OK so now for the why.



Somebody used their free Rebel Builder dcsol.com email address to send out spam! In the last 5 days my system had processed 3.6 million bounced messages, and still had 216,000 sitting in the queue waiting to be processed.



This massive message queue is why the system was processing your messages so slowly. It was also causing the SMTP service (the actual mail process on the server) to crash repeatedly so I had a process monitoring it and restarting it which in turned caused lots of duplicate messages.



I apologize for any inconvenience this causes anyone I ve always been very proud of how clean my system has stayed in the 14 years I ve run the builders list I m pretty sure I can count on one hand and have fingers left over how many times spam has made it through to the list. And while this may not have made it onto the list at all, in many ways it was much more destructive. I will now have to apply and provide assurances to many spam black list servers out there that the problem has been addressed to get my domain removed from the list of bad guys.



Well, I think I m going to just stop right here I m still pissed enough over the whole deal I may just end up saying something I d regret if I didn t.



Mike





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Never a dull day eh Mike!! ;O)

So all the messages that never came back out of the magic box.. do we need
to resend those or will they appear in time??

THANKS for the medium !

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

No, this was actually a user account on the archives that has been there
since 2008... don't know if it was the original user, or if someone
figured out his password.

The new system I'm moving towards will actually be better I think, even
though we are going to lose the "email list"... that's right... everyone
is going to have to go to a website to post their messages. You will be
able to subscribe to get updates emailed to you, but you won't be able to
post anymore. But it will be a much better system over all from a user
stand point. Accurate message threads, inbedded images and videos... a
much better (even when it was working) search capability.

Keep an eye on http://www.rebelbuilders.net. I'll be working on it off
and on through the weekend... and expect to have the old system shut down
in the next week or so.

I intend to make the new system a closed system... meaning I will have to
manually add all the users. It will be a little more work for me
initially, but not a lot... but it will ensure we don't get the spammers
on it like most forum sites do.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
jessejenks72@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Mike,
My hotmail account was sending spam a few months ago, and was subsequently
blocked by hotmail. I was locked out and lost all my contacts and some
important emails. I haven't had access to it since, but I hope thats not
what is causing this.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] What a mess!
Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 10:20 am


As I m sure most of you have noticed by now, the list server hasn t been
working 100% this last week duplicate messages, long delays before your
posts showed up etc.



Well I finally got a chance to dig into it this morning, and all I can say
is what a mess!



Unfortunately for all of you, it also means a change to the way I will run
the system. The change is just this no more personal accounts. The only
way to view the archives from this point forward, is to use the public
account. Just as a reminder, the public account has a username of rebel
, and a password of builder .



For most of you this is not really that big a deal, but for about 30 or so
of you that were using your dcsol.com account to receive list messages, it
means you re going to have to subscribe again with some other email
account.
You can setup a gmail or yahoo account, or any one of the free accounts if
you don t want to use your primary email account but all the dcsol.com
accounts have been deleted, and the site is now closed. By closed I don t
mean it s gone, I simply mean you cannot create new accounts anymore.



This also means, that you will no longer be able to post messages directly
to the web site you must post all messages via email to the list server
rebel-builders@dcsol.com



For the few of you that used NNTP to access the archives, contact me
directly and we ll see about setting something up so that will work for
you again. But for now nobody will be able to access the news server
because all the accounts have been deleted. What I may end up doing is
opening it up to the public in read only and still requiring posts to
come in via email.



OK so now for the why.



Somebody used their free Rebel Builder dcsol.com email address to send out
spam! In the last 5 days my system had processed 3.6 million bounced
messages, and still had 216,000 sitting in the queue waiting to be
processed.



This massive message queue is why the system was processing your messages
so slowly. It was also causing the SMTP service (the actual mail process
on the server) to crash repeatedly so I had a process monitoring it and
restarting it which in turned caused lots of duplicate messages.



I apologize for any inconvenience this causes anyone I ve always been
very proud of how clean my system has stayed in the 14 years I ve run
the builders list I m pretty sure I can count on one hand and have
fingers left over how many times spam has made it through to the list.
And while this may not have made it onto the list at all, in many ways it
was much more destructive. I will now have to apply and provide
assurances to many spam black list servers out there that the problem has
been addressed to get my domain removed from the list of bad guys.



Well, I think I m going to just stop right here I m still pissed enough
over the whole deal I may just end up saying something I d regret if I
didn t.



Mike





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

[Mike Davis]

You'll need to resend... I wasn't about to look for a hand full of good ones
out of 216,000! ;-)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:06 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Never a dull day eh Mike!! ;O)

So all the messages that never came back out of the magic box.. do we need
to resend those or will they appear in time??

THANKS for the medium !

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

No, this was actually a user account on the archives that has been there
since 2008... don't know if it was the original user, or if someone
figured out his password.

The new system I'm moving towards will actually be better I think, even
though we are going to lose the "email list"... that's right... everyone
is going to have to go to a website to post their messages. You will be
able to subscribe to get updates emailed to you, but you won't be able to
post anymore. But it will be a much better system over all from a user
stand point. Accurate message threads, inbedded images and videos... a
much better (even when it was working) search capability.

Keep an eye on http://www.rebelbuilders.net. I'll be working on it off
and on through the weekend... and expect to have the old system shut down
in the next week or so.

I intend to make the new system a closed system... meaning I will have to
manually add all the users. It will be a little more work for me
initially, but not a lot... but it will ensure we don't get the spammers
on it like most forum sites do.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
jessejenks72@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Mike,
My hotmail account was sending spam a few months ago, and was subsequently

blocked by hotmail. I was locked out and lost all my contacts and some
important emails. I haven't had access to it since, but I hope thats not
what is causing this.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] What a mess!
Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 10:20 am


As I m sure most of you have noticed by now, the list server hasn t been
working 100% this last week duplicate messages, long delays before your
posts showed up etc.



Well I finally got a chance to dig into it this morning, and all I can say

is what a mess!



Unfortunately for all of you, it also means a change to the way I will run

the system. The change is just this no more personal accounts. The only

way to view the archives from this point forward, is to use the public
account. Just as a reminder, the public account has a username of rebel
, and a password of builder .



For most of you this is not really that big a deal, but for about 30 or so

of you that were using your dcsol.com account to receive list messages, it

means you re going to have to subscribe again with some other email
account.
You can setup a gmail or yahoo account, or any one of the free accounts if

you don t want to use your primary email account but all the dcsol.com
accounts have been deleted, and the site is now closed. By closed I don t

mean it s gone, I simply mean you cannot create new accounts anymore.



This also means, that you will no longer be able to post messages directly

to the web site you must post all messages via email to the list server
rebel-builders@dcsol.com



For the few of you that used NNTP to access the archives, contact me
directly and we ll see about setting something up so that will work for
you again. But for now nobody will be able to access the news server
because all the accounts have been deleted. What I may end up doing is
opening it up to the public in read only and still requiring posts to
come in via email.



OK so now for the why.



Somebody used their free Rebel Builder dcsol.com email address to send out

spam! In the last 5 days my system had processed 3.6 million bounced
messages, and still had 216,000 sitting in the queue waiting to be
processed.



This massive message queue is why the system was processing your messages
so slowly. It was also causing the SMTP service (the actual mail process
on the server) to crash repeatedly so I had a process monitoring it and
restarting it which in turned caused lots of duplicate messages.



I apologize for any inconvenience this causes anyone I ve always been
very proud of how clean my system has stayed in the 14 years I ve run
the builders list I m pretty sure I can count on one hand and have
fingers left over how many times spam has made it through to the list.
And while this may not have made it onto the list at all, in many ways it
was much more destructive. I will now have to apply and provide
assurances to many spam black list servers out there that the problem has
been addressed to get my domain removed from the list of bad guys.



Well, I think I m going to just stop right here I m still pissed enough
over the whole deal I may just end up saying something I d regret if I
didn t.



Mike





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

What.. you have day job!!! lol

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

You'll need to resend... I wasn't about to look for a hand full of good
ones
out of 216,000! ;-)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:06 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Never a dull day eh Mike!! ;O)

So all the messages that never came back out of the magic box.. do we need
to resend those or will they appear in time??

THANKS for the medium !

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

No, this was actually a user account on the archives that has been there
since 2008... don't know if it was the original user, or if someone
figured out his password.

The new system I'm moving towards will actually be better I think, even
though we are going to lose the "email list"... that's right... everyone
is going to have to go to a website to post their messages. You will be
able to subscribe to get updates emailed to you, but you won't be able to
post anymore. But it will be a much better system over all from a user
stand point. Accurate message threads, inbedded images and videos... a
much better (even when it was working) search capability.

Keep an eye on http://www.rebelbuilders.net. I'll be working on it off
and on through the weekend... and expect to have the old system shut down
in the next week or so.

I intend to make the new system a closed system... meaning I will have to
manually add all the users. It will be a little more work for me
initially, but not a lot... but it will ensure we don't get the spammers
on it like most forum sites do.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
jessejenks72@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Mike,
My hotmail account was sending spam a few months ago, and was
subsequently

blocked by hotmail. I was locked out and lost all my contacts and some
important emails. I haven't had access to it since, but I hope thats not
what is causing this.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] What a mess!
Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 10:20 am


As I m sure most of you have noticed by now, the list server hasn t been
working 100% this last week duplicate messages, long delays before your
posts showed up etc.



Well I finally got a chance to dig into it this morning, and all I can
say

is what a mess!



Unfortunately for all of you, it also means a change to the way I will
run

the system. The change is just this no more personal accounts. The
only

way to view the archives from this point forward, is to use the public
account. Just as a reminder, the public account has a username of rebel
, and a password of builder .



For most of you this is not really that big a deal, but for about 30 or
so

of you that were using your dcsol.com account to receive list messages,
it

means you re going to have to subscribe again with some other email
account.
You can setup a gmail or yahoo account, or any one of the free accounts
if

you don t want to use your primary email account but all the dcsol.com
accounts have been deleted, and the site is now closed. By closed I don
t

mean it s gone, I simply mean you cannot create new accounts anymore.



This also means, that you will no longer be able to post messages
directly

to the web site you must post all messages via email to the list server
rebel-builders@dcsol.com



For the few of you that used NNTP to access the archives, contact me
directly and we ll see about setting something up so that will work for
you again. But for now nobody will be able to access the news server
because all the accounts have been deleted. What I may end up doing is
opening it up to the public in read only and still requiring posts to
come in via email.



OK so now for the why.



Somebody used their free Rebel Builder dcsol.com email address to send
out

spam! In the last 5 days my system had processed 3.6 million bounced
messages, and still had 216,000 sitting in the queue waiting to be
processed.



This massive message queue is why the system was processing your messages
so slowly. It was also causing the SMTP service (the actual mail process
on the server) to crash repeatedly so I had a process monitoring it and
restarting it which in turned caused lots of duplicate messages.



I apologize for any inconvenience this causes anyone I ve always been
very proud of how clean my system has stayed in the 14 years I ve run
the builders list I m pretty sure I can count on one hand and have
fingers left over how many times spam has made it through to the list.
And while this may not have made it onto the list at all, in many ways it
was much more destructive. I will now have to apply and provide
assurances to many spam black list servers out there that the problem has
been addressed to get my domain removed from the list of bad guys.



Well, I think I m going to just stop right here I m still pissed enough
over the whole deal I may just end up saying something I d regret if I
didn t.



Mike





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

[Mike Davis]

It's worse than that!

After work... Mondays I have Civil Air Patrol meetings, where I am the
personnel and IT officer, Tuesday nights at least once a month I have my
model aircraft club meeting, twice if we have a board meeting since I'm now
the VP, was the President the last 5 years, Wednesday nights I curl on a
team with my wife, Thursday nights I actually get to play... my R/C holds
indoor flying, Friday nights I usually have off... but for some reason I
often plop my butt down after dinner and watch a movie with the family!

Hmm... wonder why my Moose isn't getting built?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:53 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

What.. you have day job!!! lol

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

You'll need to resend... I wasn't about to look for a hand full of good
ones
out of 216,000! ;-)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:06 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Never a dull day eh Mike!! ;O)

So all the messages that never came back out of the magic box.. do we need
to resend those or will they appear in time??

THANKS for the medium !

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

No, this was actually a user account on the archives that has been there
since 2008... don't know if it was the original user, or if someone
figured out his password.

The new system I'm moving towards will actually be better I think, even
though we are going to lose the "email list"... that's right... everyone
is going to have to go to a website to post their messages. You will be
able to subscribe to get updates emailed to you, but you won't be able to
post anymore. But it will be a much better system over all from a user
stand point. Accurate message threads, inbedded images and videos... a
much better (even when it was working) search capability.

Keep an eye on http://www.rebelbuilders.net. I'll be working on it off
and on through the weekend... and expect to have the old system shut down
in the next week or so.

I intend to make the new system a closed system... meaning I will have to
manually add all the users. It will be a little more work for me
initially, but not a lot... but it will ensure we don't get the spammers
on it like most forum sites do.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
jessejenks72@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Mike,
My hotmail account was sending spam a few months ago, and was
subsequently

blocked by hotmail. I was locked out and lost all my contacts and some
important emails. I haven't had access to it since, but I hope thats not
what is causing this.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] What a mess!
Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 10:20 am


As I m sure most of you have noticed by now, the list server hasn t been
working 100% this last week duplicate messages, long delays before your
posts showed up etc.



Well I finally got a chance to dig into it this morning, and all I can
say

is what a mess!



Unfortunately for all of you, it also means a change to the way I will
run

the system. The change is just this no more personal accounts. The
only

way to view the archives from this point forward, is to use the public
account. Just as a reminder, the public account has a username of rebel
, and a password of builder .



For most of you this is not really that big a deal, but for about 30 or
so

of you that were using your dcsol.com account to receive list messages,
it

means you re going to have to subscribe again with some other email
account.
You can setup a gmail or yahoo account, or any one of the free accounts
if

you don t want to use your primary email account but all the dcsol.com
accounts have been deleted, and the site is now closed. By closed I don
t

mean it s gone, I simply mean you cannot create new accounts anymore.



This also means, that you will no longer be able to post messages
directly

to the web site you must post all messages via email to the list server
rebel-builders@dcsol.com



For the few of you that used NNTP to access the archives, contact me
directly and we ll see about setting something up so that will work for
you again. But for now nobody will be able to access the news server
because all the accounts have been deleted. What I may end up doing is
opening it up to the public in read only and still requiring posts to
come in via email.



OK so now for the why.



Somebody used their free Rebel Builder dcsol.com email address to send
out

spam! In the last 5 days my system had processed 3.6 million bounced
messages, and still had 216,000 sitting in the queue waiting to be
processed.



This massive message queue is why the system was processing your messages
so slowly. It was also causing the SMTP service (the actual mail process
on the server) to crash repeatedly so I had a process monitoring it and
restarting it which in turned caused lots of duplicate messages.



I apologize for any inconvenience this causes anyone I ve always been
very proud of how clean my system has stayed in the 14 years I ve run
the builders list I m pretty sure I can count on one hand and have
fingers left over how many times spam has made it through to the list.
And while this may not have made it onto the list at all, in many ways it
was much more destructive. I will now have to apply and provide
assurances to many spam black list servers out there that the problem has
been addressed to get my domain removed from the list of bad guys.



Well, I think I m going to just stop right here I m still pissed enough
over the whole deal I may just end up saying something I d regret if I
didn t.



Mike





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

[N.Smith]

Thanks for all your time and effort Mike - I know what a nightmare it must
be.

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 21:21
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

No, this was actually a user account on the archives that has been there
since 2008... don't know if it was the original user, or if someone figured
out his password.

The new system I'm moving towards will actually be better I think, even
though we are going to lose the "email list"... that's right... everyone is
going to have to go to a website to post their messages. You will be able
to subscribe to get updates emailed to you, but you won't be able to post
anymore. But it will be a much better system over all from a user stand
point. Accurate message threads, inbedded images and videos... a much
better (even when it was working) search capability.

Keep an eye on http://www.rebelbuilders.net. I'll be working on it off and
on through the weekend... and expect to have the old system shut down in the
next week or so.

I intend to make the new system a closed system... meaning I will have to
manually add all the users. It will be a little more work for me initially,
but not a lot... but it will ensure we don't get the spammers on it like
most forum sites do.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
jessejenks72@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] What a mess!

Mike,
My hotmail account was sending spam a few months ago, and was subsequently
blocked by hotmail. I was locked out and lost all my contacts and some
important emails. I haven't had access to it since, but I hope thats not
what is causing this.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] What a mess!
Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 10:20 am


As I m sure most of you have noticed by now, the list server hasn t been
working 100% this last week duplicate messages, long delays before your
posts showed up etc.



Well I finally got a chance to dig into it this morning, and all I can say
is what a mess!



Unfortunately for all of you, it also means a change to the way I will run
the system. The change is just this no more personal accounts. The only
way to view the archives from this point forward, is to use the public
account. Just as a reminder, the public account has a username of rebel ,
and a password of builder .



For most of you this is not really that big a deal, but for about 30 or so
of you that were using your dcsol.com account to receive list messages, it
means you re going to have to subscribe again with some other email account.
You can setup a gmail or yahoo account, or any one of the free accounts if
you don t want to use your primary email account but all the dcsol.com
accounts have been deleted, and the site is now closed. By closed I don t
mean it s gone, I simply mean you cannot create new accounts anymore.



This also means, that you will no longer be able to post messages directly
to the web site you must post all messages via email to the list server
rebel-builders@dcsol.com



For the few of you that used NNTP to access the archives, contact me
directly and we ll see about setting something up so that will work for you
again. But for now nobody will be able to access the news server because
all the accounts have been deleted. What I may end up doing is opening it
up to the public in read only and still requiring posts to come in via
email.



OK so now for the why.



Somebody used their free Rebel Builder dcsol.com email address to send out
spam! In the last 5 days my system had processed 3.6 million bounced
messages, and still had 216,000 sitting in the queue waiting to be
processed.



This massive message queue is why the system was processing your messages so
slowly. It was also causing the SMTP service (the actual mail process on
the server) to crash repeatedly so I had a process monitoring it and
restarting it which in turned caused lots of duplicate messages.



I apologize for any inconvenience this causes anyone I ve always been very
proud of how clean my system has stayed in the 14 years I ve run the
builders list I m pretty sure I can count on one hand and have fingers left
over how many times spam has made it through to the list. And while this
may not have made it onto the list at all, in many ways it was much more
destructive. I will now have to apply and provide assurances to many spam
black list servers out there that the problem has been addressed to get my
domain removed from the list of bad guys.



Well, I think I m going to just stop right here I m still pissed enough
over the whole deal I may just end up saying something I d regret if I didn
t.



Mike





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login username "rebel"
password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------






-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------



-----
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4804 - Release Date: 02/11/12
-----
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4804 - Release Date: 02/11/12




-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------