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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Windshields

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:45 pm

Excellent advice Si !

I hope you don't mind that I often send people in your area
to talk to you about the Rebel. I know you will give them the
straight story, and good advice. I try to do the same.

I know there are some unhappy customers out there, and
MAM have had problems - especially losing emails for the
last 3 months. This explains the lack of answers from them,
and I would hope, now that they are reading them again,
that anyone should be getting an answer within a few days.

They are trying to catch up on the backorders that they
can find. I would strongly urge anyone who has backorders
outstanding to please - list ALL the details, part no's, descriptions,
kit model & serial number, on a NEW email to MurTech@murphyair.com
I know it isn't the customer's fault, but the detail IS needed
because, most likely, the person who will be trying to fill
the backorder will not know anything about the past failings,
and will not have any old emails to reference.

I also know that they really short-shipped or mis-shipped
a FEW orders in the last 3 or 4 months - the people who did
that are no longer there. I've done my best to help those
folks - although I am NOT an employee of Murphy Aircraft.,
and never have been, my company DID write up the order
for one of them. Like you, I do my best to help builders
whenever I can.

All of my recent comments on this list have been my own
personal views - when I am speaking for my company, I will
include it in my signature line. I do wear 2 hats, but I would
like to think that I'm still allowed to speak as a Rebel owner...
I have purchased 2 Rebels and a set of amphibs from
Murphy Aircraft, as well as 2 more Rebels and lots of parts,
over the last 20 years. Like you, I always got the parts I ordered.
I always enjoyed talking to Colleen - she really looked after people !!
My hope is to offer that level of customer support here at PAS.

Murphy Aircraft is a dedicated kit supplier to my company,
Patterson AeroSales, just as they were a kit supplier directly to you
in the past. I have just as much interest in making sure the
customer (my company, and ultimately, the kit buyer) is satisfied,
as anyone - maybe more ! My living depends on it ...

I will continue to do as much as I can to help people to get
kits, and get flying the great aircraft that Murphy Aircraft
produce. Like you, I really love the Rebel !

I welcome any positive suggestions for things
that I can do to make dealing with Patterson AeroSales
a better experience. I can only answer what or why for
my company - I have no control over others. I can only say
what little I do know ... and share my understanding of
their circumstances.

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.PattersonAeroSales.com

http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender
and do not necessarily reflect the views of any other entities or persons.
Any action taken as a result of the contents of this email is totally the
responsibility of the reader.

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 09 November 2009 01:52, Simon Smith wrote:
The moaners couldn't be more effective if they WANTED them to close !

Sorry - just fed up ! They ARE trying to satisfy people,
just give them a chance .....
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't you think there a lot of fed up customer's out there that want to be
able to finish aircraft now that they may be laid off or have no job at
all? Some have been waiting for parts for a long time.

I own two Rebel's neither of which were purchased from MAM but I have
purchased two float kits from them and parts at various times and
shortages were all received, but then I was able to talk with someone at
MAM within a day or two. If your looking to buy a kit or project from a
second or third owner take your time to inventory everything and take
someone along that is familier with the type of aircraft your buying if
you can. Just my 2c worth.

Si


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Roland Kriening

[rebel-builders] Windshields

Post by Roland Kriening » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:54 pm

Hey Wayne,

Sounds like the same insanity I went through to get mine. No problem with
Jerry or LP, but the border guard did not want to accept the invoice I had
MAM send me to show I paid the GST. He was just an idiot, as the invoice
clearly stated paid in full, including GST. It did take countless emails to
MAM and a couple of calls to get an invoice. What confused the border guard
was the fact that I paid a company in BC, but had it shipped from PA to Port
Huron, MI instead of directly to my home. I mentioned the fact that the box
was too big to go with FedEX, so had to have it shipped via truck, thus
involving a broker. To avoid broker fees, I decided to pick it up myself and
haul it across. When I mentioned this to him, he stated "Broker... what do
you mean by a broker?" OMG!!! Where to these guys come from. He held me
there, in my car, for 15 minutes while he analyzed, then re-analyzed the
invoice. Obviously had nothing better to do, or wanted someone to talk to...

I know the rebel will be worth all this aggravation, but makes me wonder
sometimes !!!


Roland
R56




-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:25 PM
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshields

The good news.. I got one!

The Bad news.. I was supposed to get FIVE.

Brokerage paid to the import broker.... GST paid AGAIN on the value of 5
windshields.. and unfortunately LP Aero slapped "FedEx Freight" Pro number
stickers on Ron Leathers box. Truck was supposed to come yesterday and then
they called mid day to say they didn't put it on the truck for delivery as I

had to make an "appointment" for a delivery time. So today I waited around
to meet the FedEx Freight truck during my allotted appointment time.. and it

shows up 6 hours late!! Then I open the box to make sure they're not
broken..... to find only one windshield and stand there scratching my head.
Truck drives away and then I notice the big sticker on the box that says Ron

Leather.. his town written on each side of the box even !

Thankfully I had Ron's number... hoping he had my windshields and that he
was home, but no... his is "supposedly" sitting on the dock in PA waiting
for him to find a broker to import it. So another GOOD.....now Ron doesn't
have to worry about how to get his to Canada at least.

Ron had just been talking to LP an hour before I called him and he gave me a

number and contact. Called... Jerry (sp) and she blurted something to the
effect of "you've got to be shittin me".... and I said I wish I was. Told
her that I hoped mine were still sitting there and not shipped FedEx to
someone in California or something. She called me right back and luckily
mine are still there... and are to be on a truck today or first thing in the

am. Of course we'll have to pay brokerage fees again.. gst on Ron's value
this time is the plan and then the worst part...screwing around with FedEx
Freight again. They'd just better get here before I leave town on
Wednesday!!

Okay.. I'm vented... and can laugh about it, or is that just a disguise to
stop the tears...

Wayne






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jbcressman

[rebel-builders] Windshields

Post by jbcressman » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:54 pm

Roland....Who was the person at MAM that sent you the invoice for the W/S?
I received mine here in Florida and will need an invoice to help get it through
the Canadian border wizards. Bob R331





-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Kriening <kriening@rogers.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 4:19 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshields


Hey Wayne,

Sounds like the same insanity I went through to get mine. No problem with
Jerry or LP, but the border guard did not want to accept the invoice I had
MAM send me to show I paid the GST. He was just an idiot, as the invoice
clearly stated paid in full, including GST. It did take countless emails to
MAM and a couple of calls to get an invoice. What confused the border guard
was the fact that I paid a company in BC, but had it shipped from PA to Port
Huron, MI instead of directly to my home. I mentioned the fact that the box
was too big to go with FedEX, so had to have it shipped via truck, thus
involving a broker. To avoid broker fees, I decided to pick it up myself and
haul it across. When I mentioned this to him, he stated "Broker... what do
you mean by a broker?" OMG!!! Where to these guys come from. He held me
there, in my car, for 15 minutes while he analyzed, then re-analyzed the
invoice. Obviously had nothing better to do, or wanted someone to talk to...

I know the rebel will be worth all this aggravation, but makes me wonder
sometimes !!!


Roland
R56




-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:25 PM
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshields

The good news.. I got one!

The Bad news.. I was supposed to get FIVE.

Brokerage paid to the import broker.... GST paid AGAIN on the value of 5
windshields.. and unfortunately LP Aero slapped "FedEx Freight" Pro number
stickers on Ron Leathers box. Truck was supposed to come yesterday and then
they called mid day to say they didn't put it on the truck for delivery as I

had to make an "appointment" for a delivery time. So today I waited around
to meet the FedEx Freight truck during my allotted appointment time.. and it

shows up 6 hours late!! Then I open the box to make sure they're not
broken..... to find only one windshield and stand there scratching my head.
Truck drives away and then I notice the big sticker on the box that says Ron

Leather.. his town written on each side of the box even !

Thankfully I had Ron's number... hoping he had my windshields and that he
was home, but no... his is "supposedly" sitting on the dock in PA waiting
for him to find a broker to import it. So another GOOD.....now Ron doesn't
have to worry about how to get his to Canada at least.

Ron had just been talking to LP an hour before I called him and he gave me a

number and contact. Called... Jerry (sp) and she blurted something to the
effect of "you've got to be shittin me".... and I said I wish I was. Told
her that I hoped mine were still sitting there and not shipped FedEx to
someone in California or something. She called me right back and luckily
mine are still there... and are to be on a truck today or first thing in the

am. Of course we'll have to pay brokerage fees again.. gst on Ron's value
this time is the plan and then the worst part...screwing around with FedEx
Freight again. They'd just better get here before I leave town on
Wednesday!!

Okay.. I'm vented... and can laugh about it, or is that just a disguise to
stop the tears...

Wayne






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Roland Kriening

[rebel-builders] Windshields

Post by Roland Kriening » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:54 pm

Hi Bob ,

I think his name was Stephan.

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
jbcressman@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshields

Roland....Who was the person at MAM that sent you the invoice for the W/S?
I received mine here in Florida and will need an invoice to help get it
through
the Canadian border wizards. Bob R331





-----Original Message-----
From: Roland Kriening <kriening@rogers.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 4:19 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshields


Hey Wayne,

Sounds like the same insanity I went through to get mine. No problem with
Jerry or LP, but the border guard did not want to accept the invoice I had
MAM send me to show I paid the GST. He was just an idiot, as the invoice
clearly stated paid in full, including GST. It did take countless emails to
MAM and a couple of calls to get an invoice. What confused the border guard
was the fact that I paid a company in BC, but had it shipped from PA to Port
Huron, MI instead of directly to my home. I mentioned the fact that the box
was too big to go with FedEX, so had to have it shipped via truck, thus
involving a broker. To avoid broker fees, I decided to pick it up myself and
haul it across. When I mentioned this to him, he stated "Broker... what do
you mean by a broker?" OMG!!! Where to these guys come from. He held me
there, in my car, for 15 minutes while he analyzed, then re-analyzed the
invoice. Obviously had nothing better to do, or wanted someone to talk to...

I know the rebel will be worth all this aggravation, but makes me wonder
sometimes !!!


Roland
R56




-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:25 PM
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshields

The good news.. I got one!

The Bad news.. I was supposed to get FIVE.

Brokerage paid to the import broker.... GST paid AGAIN on the value of 5
windshields.. and unfortunately LP Aero slapped "FedEx Freight" Pro number
stickers on Ron Leathers box. Truck was supposed to come yesterday and then
they called mid day to say they didn't put it on the truck for delivery as I

had to make an "appointment" for a delivery time. So today I waited around
to meet the FedEx Freight truck during my allotted appointment time.. and it

shows up 6 hours late!! Then I open the box to make sure they're not
broken..... to find only one windshield and stand there scratching my head.
Truck drives away and then I notice the big sticker on the box that says Ron

Leather.. his town written on each side of the box even !

Thankfully I had Ron's number... hoping he had my windshields and that he
was home, but no... his is "supposedly" sitting on the dock in PA waiting
for him to find a broker to import it. So another GOOD.....now Ron doesn't
have to worry about how to get his to Canada at least.

Ron had just been talking to LP an hour before I called him and he gave me a

number and contact. Called... Jerry (sp) and she blurted something to the
effect of "you've got to be shittin me".... and I said I wish I was. Told
her that I hoped mine were still sitting there and not shipped FedEx to
someone in California or something. She called me right back and luckily
mine are still there... and are to be on a truck today or first thing in the

am. Of course we'll have to pay brokerage fees again.. gst on Ron's value
this time is the plan and then the worst part...screwing around with FedEx
Freight again. They'd just better get here before I leave town on
Wednesday!!

Okay.. I'm vented... and can laugh about it, or is that just a disguise to
stop the tears...

Wayne






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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Windshields

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Talk about service!!! I have my 5 windshields in my shop. Jerry at LP
Aero.... you are a dear !

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: "Murphy Rebel Builders List" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshields

The good news.. I got one!

The Bad news.. I was supposed to get FIVE.

Brokerage paid to the import broker.... GST paid AGAIN on the value of 5
windshields.. and unfortunately LP Aero slapped "FedEx Freight" Pro number
stickers on Ron Leathers box. Truck was supposed to come yesterday and
then
they called mid day to say they didn't put it on the truck for delivery as
I
had to make an "appointment" for a delivery time. So today I waited around
to meet the FedEx Freight truck during my allotted appointment time.. and
it
shows up 6 hours late!! Then I open the box to make sure they're not
broken..... to find only one windshield and stand there scratching my
head.
Truck drives away and then I notice the big sticker on the box that says
Ron
Leather.. his town written on each side of the box even !

Thankfully I had Ron's number... hoping he had my windshields and that he
was home, but no... his is "supposedly" sitting on the dock in PA waiting
for him to find a broker to import it. So another GOOD.....now Ron doesn't
have to worry about how to get his to Canada at least.

Ron had just been talking to LP an hour before I called him and he gave me
a
number and contact. Called... Jerry (sp) and she blurted something to the
effect of "you've got to be shittin me".... and I said I wish I was. Told
her that I hoped mine were still sitting there and not shipped FedEx to
someone in California or something. She called me right back and luckily
mine are still there... and are to be on a truck today or first thing in
the
am. Of course we'll have to pay brokerage fees again.. gst on Ron's value
this time is the plan and then the worst part...screwing around with FedEx
Freight again. They'd just better get here before I leave town on
Wednesday!!

Okay.. I'm vented... and can laugh about it, or is that just a disguise to
stop the tears...

Wayne






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Jesse Jenks

[rebel-builders] Windshields

Post by Jesse Jenks » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Wayne, I just remembered you are a plastics guy. It seems like you would have been making your own windshields by now.
From: oifa@irishfield.on.ca
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshields
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:56:38 -0500

Talk about service!!! I have my 5 windshields in my shop. Jerry at LP
Aero.... you are a dear !

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: "Murphy Rebel Builders List" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshields

The good news.. I got one!

The Bad news.. I was supposed to get FIVE.

Brokerage paid to the import broker.... GST paid AGAIN on the value of 5
windshields.. and unfortunately LP Aero slapped "FedEx Freight" Pro number
stickers on Ron Leathers box. Truck was supposed to come yesterday and
then
they called mid day to say they didn't put it on the truck for delivery as
I
had to make an "appointment" for a delivery time. So today I waited around
to meet the FedEx Freight truck during my allotted appointment time.. and
it
shows up 6 hours late!! Then I open the box to make sure they're not
broken..... to find only one windshield and stand there scratching my
head.
Truck drives away and then I notice the big sticker on the box that says
Ron
Leather.. his town written on each side of the box even !

Thankfully I had Ron's number... hoping he had my windshields and that he
was home, but no... his is "supposedly" sitting on the dock in PA waiting
for him to find a broker to import it. So another GOOD.....now Ron doesn't
have to worry about how to get his to Canada at least.

Ron had just been talking to LP an hour before I called him and he gave me
a
number and contact. Called... Jerry (sp) and she blurted something to the
effect of "you've got to be shittin me".... and I said I wish I was. Told
her that I hoped mine were still sitting there and not shipped FedEx to
someone in California or something. She called me right back and luckily
mine are still there... and are to be on a truck today or first thing in
the
am. Of course we'll have to pay brokerage fees again.. gst on Ron's value
this time is the plan and then the worst part...screwing around with FedEx
Freight again. They'd just better get here before I leave town on
Wednesday!!

Okay.. I'm vented... and can laugh about it, or is that just a disguise to
stop the tears...

Wayne






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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Windshields

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

:O) !!! If I only had a bigger oven.... or could figure out how to
injection mould them in our 2000 Ton Press.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: "Builders list" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshields

Wayne, I just remembered you are a plastics guy. It seems like you would
have been making your own windshields by now.
From: oifa@irishfield.on.ca
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshields
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:56:38 -0500

Talk about service!!! I have my 5 windshields in my shop. Jerry at LP
Aero.... you are a dear !

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: "Murphy Rebel Builders List" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshields

The good news.. I got one!

The Bad news.. I was supposed to get FIVE.

Brokerage paid to the import broker.... GST paid AGAIN on the value of
5
windshields.. and unfortunately LP Aero slapped "FedEx Freight" Pro
number
stickers on Ron Leathers box. Truck was supposed to come yesterday and
then
they called mid day to say they didn't put it on the truck for delivery
as
I
had to make an "appointment" for a delivery time. So today I waited
around
to meet the FedEx Freight truck during my allotted appointment time..
and
it
shows up 6 hours late!! Then I open the box to make sure they're not
broken..... to find only one windshield and stand there scratching my
head.
Truck drives away and then I notice the big sticker on the box that
says
Ron
Leather.. his town written on each side of the box even !

Thankfully I had Ron's number... hoping he had my windshields and that
he
was home, but no... his is "supposedly" sitting on the dock in PA
waiting
for him to find a broker to import it. So another GOOD.....now Ron
doesn't
have to worry about how to get his to Canada at least.

Ron had just been talking to LP an hour before I called him and he gave
me
a
number and contact. Called... Jerry (sp) and she blurted something to
the
effect of "you've got to be shittin me".... and I said I wish I was.
Told
her that I hoped mine were still sitting there and not shipped FedEx to
someone in California or something. She called me right back and
luckily
mine are still there... and are to be on a truck today or first thing
in
the
am. Of course we'll have to pay brokerage fees again.. gst on Ron's
value
this time is the plan and then the worst part...screwing around with
FedEx
Freight again. They'd just better get here before I leave town on
Wednesday!!

Okay.. I'm vented... and can laugh about it, or is that just a disguise
to
stop the tears...

Wayne






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