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[rebel-builders] Windshield
[rebel-builders] Windshield
I had a quote from Aero to Anchorage, in fact they gave me two different
ones so I guess they aren't afarid of that "foreign" country. lol I made
some other arrangements to get it up here.
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ones so I guess they aren't afarid of that "foreign" country. lol I made
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
So I take it that you are paying Aero direct ($542)
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
Yes. The process is that I call Aero and pay them and arrange shipment. CW
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
so the question is has MAM taken themselves out of the process ego no
$$$$ and can others now order directly
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Yes. The process is that I call Aero and pay them and arrange shipment. CW
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$$$$ and can others now order directly
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
Bob I don't believe I was "moaning" just trying to understand what was
happening.
I have been following the thread which is why I was unsure
Any problems that MAM has or hasn't have been entirely of their own doing as
far as I am concerned
TRUST IS EARNED
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:59 PM
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LP does NOT deal directly with the public ! Stop bothering them !
If you'd been reading the emails, Keith, you'd realize that the
process is:
1. Order your windshield from Murphy
2. Murphy issues a Purchase Order to LP with your address, etc.
3. Murphy advises you of the P.O. number
4. You contact LP WITH the P.O. number, and arrange payment
for that order directly to LP.
You all should realize that this is an enormous inconvenience
for LP, and entirely unnecessary ! Murphy made these arrangements
solely to accommodate a few 'moaning minnies' who were worried
about their money, and implied they didn't trust Murphy !!!!
Several steps, and a lot of wasted time and expense, could be saved by
just ordering from Murphy and giving your credit card number
to them, as was always the practice in the past.
These same 'moaning minnies' seem to be discouraging anyone
from dealing with Murphy. This is unfortunate, as it is really
preventing/slowing them from getting back into full production.
We have enough orders for a run of floats - but now everybody
is worried they may not get them .... NOBODY has ever ordered
a kit from Murphy and NOT received it ! Yes, they have had
problems with shipping errors and lost emails, and they are
working to fix that - hence this windshield arrangement.
If there is no trust, they are out of business ....
The moaners couldn't be more effective if they WANTED them to close !
Sorry - just fed up ! They ARE trying to satisfy people,
just give them a chance .....
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happening.
I have been following the thread which is why I was unsure
Any problems that MAM has or hasn't have been entirely of their own doing as
far as I am concerned
TRUST IS EARNED
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:59 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
LP does NOT deal directly with the public ! Stop bothering them !
If you'd been reading the emails, Keith, you'd realize that the
process is:
1. Order your windshield from Murphy
2. Murphy issues a Purchase Order to LP with your address, etc.
3. Murphy advises you of the P.O. number
4. You contact LP WITH the P.O. number, and arrange payment
for that order directly to LP.
You all should realize that this is an enormous inconvenience
for LP, and entirely unnecessary ! Murphy made these arrangements
solely to accommodate a few 'moaning minnies' who were worried
about their money, and implied they didn't trust Murphy !!!!
Several steps, and a lot of wasted time and expense, could be saved by
just ordering from Murphy and giving your credit card number
to them, as was always the practice in the past.
These same 'moaning minnies' seem to be discouraging anyone
from dealing with Murphy. This is unfortunate, as it is really
preventing/slowing them from getting back into full production.
We have enough orders for a run of floats - but now everybody
is worried they may not get them .... NOBODY has ever ordered
a kit from Murphy and NOT received it ! Yes, they have had
problems with shipping errors and lost emails, and they are
working to fix that - hence this windshield arrangement.
If there is no trust, they are out of business ....
The moaners couldn't be more effective if they WANTED them to close !
Sorry - just fed up ! They ARE trying to satisfy people,
just give them a chance .....
--
......bobp
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http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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so the question is has MAM taken themselves out of the process ego no
$$$$ and can others now order directly
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craig
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:43 PM
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Yes. The process is that I call Aero and pay them and arrange shipment.
CW
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
Sorry Keith !
I wasn't saying YOU were moaning - but some are.
Of course the problems have been Murphy's - they have acknowledged
that they lost several months of emails --- and they are moving now to
fill any orders that were missed. That's why there are 20 or so orders
going through for windshields. They made and shipped other parts
last week, and are trying to catch up with those who wrote and didn't
get answers, to see if they still want the parts.
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I wasn't saying YOU were moaning - but some are.
Of course the problems have been Murphy's - they have acknowledged
that they lost several months of emails --- and they are moving now to
fill any orders that were missed. That's why there are 20 or so orders
going through for windshields. They made and shipped other parts
last week, and are trying to catch up with those who wrote and didn't
get answers, to see if they still want the parts.
TRUST IS MUTUAL.
--
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On Saturday 07 November 2009 23:20, Keith Oliver wrote:
Bob I don't believe I was "moaning" just trying to understand what was
happening.
I have been following the thread which is why I was unsure
Any problems that MAM has or hasn't have been entirely of their own doing
as far as I am concerned
TRUST IS EARNED
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:59 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
LP does NOT deal directly with the public ! Stop bothering them !
If you'd been reading the emails, Keith, you'd realize that the
process is:
1. Order your windshield from Murphy
2. Murphy issues a Purchase Order to LP with your address, etc.
3. Murphy advises you of the P.O. number
4. You contact LP WITH the P.O. number, and arrange payment
for that order directly to LP.
You all should realize that this is an enormous inconvenience
for LP, and entirely unnecessary ! Murphy made these arrangements
solely to accommodate a few 'moaning minnies' who were worried
about their money, and implied they didn't trust Murphy !!!!
Several steps, and a lot of wasted time and expense, could be saved by
just ordering from Murphy and giving your credit card number
to them, as was always the practice in the past.
These same 'moaning minnies' seem to be discouraging anyone
from dealing with Murphy. This is unfortunate, as it is really
preventing/slowing them from getting back into full production.
We have enough orders for a run of floats - but now everybody
is worried they may not get them .... NOBODY has ever ordered
a kit from Murphy and NOT received it ! Yes, they have had
problems with shipping errors and lost emails, and they are
working to fix that - hence this windshield arrangement.
If there is no trust, they are out of business ....
The moaners couldn't be more effective if they WANTED them to close !
Sorry - just fed up ! They ARE trying to satisfy people,
just give them a chance .....
--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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On Saturday 07 November 2009 20:33, Keith Oliver wrote:so the question is has MAM taken themselves out of the process ego
no $$$$ and can others now order directly
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
craig
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:43 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Yes. The process is that I call Aero and pay them and arrange shipment.
CW
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
LP does NOT deal directly with the public ! Stop bothering them !
If you'd been reading the emails, Keith, you'd realize that the
process is:
1. Order your windshield from Murphy
2. Murphy issues a Purchase Order to LP with your address, etc.
3. Murphy advises you of the P.O. number
4. You contact LP WITH the P.O. number, and arrange payment
for that order directly to LP.
You all should realize that this is an enormous inconvenience
for LP, and entirely unnecessary ! Murphy made these arrangements
solely to accommodate a few 'moaning minnies' who were worried
about their money, and implied they didn't trust Murphy !!!!
Several steps, and a lot of wasted time and expense, could be saved by
just ordering from Murphy and giving your credit card number
to them, as was always the practice in the past.
These same 'moaning minnies' seem to be discouraging anyone
from dealing with Murphy. This is unfortunate, as it is really
preventing/slowing them from getting back into full production.
We have enough orders for a run of floats - but now everybody
is worried they may not get them .... NOBODY has ever ordered
a kit from Murphy and NOT received it ! Yes, they have had
problems with shipping errors and lost emails, and they are
working to fix that - hence this windshield arrangement.
If there is no trust, they are out of business ....
The moaners couldn't be more effective if they WANTED them to close !
Sorry - just fed up ! They ARE trying to satisfy people,
just give them a chance .....
--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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If you'd been reading the emails, Keith, you'd realize that the
process is:
1. Order your windshield from Murphy
2. Murphy issues a Purchase Order to LP with your address, etc.
3. Murphy advises you of the P.O. number
4. You contact LP WITH the P.O. number, and arrange payment
for that order directly to LP.
You all should realize that this is an enormous inconvenience
for LP, and entirely unnecessary ! Murphy made these arrangements
solely to accommodate a few 'moaning minnies' who were worried
about their money, and implied they didn't trust Murphy !!!!
Several steps, and a lot of wasted time and expense, could be saved by
just ordering from Murphy and giving your credit card number
to them, as was always the practice in the past.
These same 'moaning minnies' seem to be discouraging anyone
from dealing with Murphy. This is unfortunate, as it is really
preventing/slowing them from getting back into full production.
We have enough orders for a run of floats - but now everybody
is worried they may not get them .... NOBODY has ever ordered
a kit from Murphy and NOT received it ! Yes, they have had
problems with shipping errors and lost emails, and they are
working to fix that - hence this windshield arrangement.
If there is no trust, they are out of business ....
The moaners couldn't be more effective if they WANTED them to close !
Sorry - just fed up ! They ARE trying to satisfy people,
just give them a chance .....
--
......bobp
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http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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so the question is has MAM taken themselves out of the process ego no
$$$$ and can others now order directly
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
craig
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:43 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Yes. The process is that I call Aero and pay them and arrange shipment.
CW
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
Poor form Bob.
The only trust that matters is the customers.
If the business decides that it doesn't want to sell to a particular untrustworthy customer, that may make good business sense. If the customers don't trust the business, the business will never get the chance to sell anything.
________________________________
From: Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 5:34:29 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Sorry Keith !
I wasn't saying YOU were moaning - but some are.
Of course the problems have been Murphy's - they have acknowledged
that they lost several months of emails --- and they are moving now to
fill any orders that were missed. That's why there are 20 or so orders
going through for windshields. They made and shipped other parts
last week, and are trying to catch up with those who wrote and didn't
get answers, to see if they still want the parts.
TRUST IS MUTUAL.
--
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http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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The only trust that matters is the customers.
If the business decides that it doesn't want to sell to a particular untrustworthy customer, that may make good business sense. If the customers don't trust the business, the business will never get the chance to sell anything.
________________________________
From: Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 5:34:29 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Sorry Keith !
I wasn't saying YOU were moaning - but some are.
Of course the problems have been Murphy's - they have acknowledged
that they lost several months of emails --- and they are moving now to
fill any orders that were missed. That's why there are 20 or so orders
going through for windshields. They made and shipped other parts
last week, and are trying to catch up with those who wrote and didn't
get answers, to see if they still want the parts.
TRUST IS MUTUAL.
--
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bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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On Saturday 07 November 2009 23:20, Keith Oliver wrote:
Bob I don't believe I was "moaning" just trying to understand what was
happening.
I have been following the thread which is why I was unsure
Any problems that MAM has or hasn't have been entirely of their own doing
as far as I am concerned
TRUST IS EARNED
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:59 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
LP does NOT deal directly with the public ! Stop bothering them !
If you'd been reading the emails, Keith, you'd realize that the
process is:
1. Order your windshield from Murphy
2. Murphy issues a Purchase Order to LP with your address, etc.
3. Murphy advises you of the P.O. number
4. You contact LP WITH the P.O. number, and arrange payment
for that order directly to LP.
You all should realize that this is an enormous inconvenience
for LP, and entirely unnecessary ! Murphy made these arrangements
solely to accommodate a few 'moaning minnies' who were worried
about their money, and implied they didn't trust Murphy !!!!
Several steps, and a lot of wasted time and expense, could be saved by
just ordering from Murphy and giving your credit card number
to them, as was always the practice in the past.
These same 'moaning minnies' seem to be discouraging anyone
from dealing with Murphy. This is unfortunate, as it is really
preventing/slowing them from getting back into full production.
We have enough orders for a run of floats - but now everybody
is worried they may not get them .... NOBODY has ever ordered
a kit from Murphy and NOT received it ! Yes, they have had
problems with shipping errors and lost emails, and they are
working to fix that - hence this windshield arrangement.
If there is no trust, they are out of business ....
The moaners couldn't be more effective if they WANTED them to close !
Sorry - just fed up ! They ARE trying to satisfy people,
just give them a chance .....
--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
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no $$$$ and can others now order directly
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
craig
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:43 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Yes. The process is that I call Aero and pay them and arrange shipment.
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
Well, this is interesting; Bob, I hope you don't see me as a "moaning
minnie". I first emailed MAM in April regarding a windshield, as evidenced
by my PO number 4-11-2009-1D. With all the non-contact from MAM in the last
few months I got worried that I wouldn't be able to get one at all and tried
contacting again a few weeks ago. Then I went to the group. Heck, I might
have started all of this "moaning"!
There's much that could be said here about business practices and customer
relationships but I'll leave that alone. I'm glad to hear that there will
be a run of floats soon. I have a friend up here who bought an amphib kit
over 5 years ago and is waiting for a large part of the kit to be shipped.
Craig
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minnie". I first emailed MAM in April regarding a windshield, as evidenced
by my PO number 4-11-2009-1D. With all the non-contact from MAM in the last
few months I got worried that I wouldn't be able to get one at all and tried
contacting again a few weeks ago. Then I went to the group. Heck, I might
have started all of this "moaning"!
There's much that could be said here about business practices and customer
relationships but I'll leave that alone. I'm glad to hear that there will
be a run of floats soon. I have a friend up here who bought an amphib kit
over 5 years ago and is waiting for a large part of the kit to be shipped.
Craig
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
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From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------LP does NOT deal directly with the public ! Stop bothering them !
If you'd been reading the emails, Keith, you'd realize that the
process is:
1. Order your windshield from Murphy
2. Murphy issues a Purchase Order to LP with your address, etc.
3. Murphy advises you of the P.O. number
4. You contact LP WITH the P.O. number, and arrange payment
for that order directly to LP.
You all should realize that this is an enormous inconvenience
for LP, and entirely unnecessary ! Murphy made these arrangements
solely to accommodate a few 'moaning minnies' who were worried
about their money, and implied they didn't trust Murphy !!!!
Several steps, and a lot of wasted time and expense, could be saved by
just ordering from Murphy and giving your credit card number
to them, as was always the practice in the past.
These same 'moaning minnies' seem to be discouraging anyone
from dealing with Murphy. This is unfortunate, as it is really
preventing/slowing them from getting back into full production.
We have enough orders for a run of floats - but now everybody
is worried they may not get them .... NOBODY has ever ordered
a kit from Murphy and NOT received it ! Yes, they have had
problems with shipping errors and lost emails, and they are
working to fix that - hence this windshield arrangement.
If there is no trust, they are out of business ....
The moaners couldn't be more effective if they WANTED them to close !
Sorry - just fed up ! They ARE trying to satisfy people,
just give them a chance .....
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On Saturday 07 November 2009 20:33, Keith Oliver wrote:so the question is has MAM taken themselves out of the process ego
no
$$$$ and can others now order directly
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Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:43 PM
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Yes. The process is that I call Aero and pay them and arrange shipment.
CW
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
Roland,
You WILL be doing some windshield trimming in order to get the best fit
possible. Where the windshield is formed on the top sides (area of front
wing attach) you may also have trimming here as well. Remember there is a
fairing that you will make to make transition from windshield to wing on the
D cell, some builders make it out of aluminium (as per manual) or make the
covers from fibreglass while making their windshield retainer.
I know LP Aero isn't going to send something out that is not usable.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Roland Kriening <kriening@rogers.com>wrote:
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You WILL be doing some windshield trimming in order to get the best fit
possible. Where the windshield is formed on the top sides (area of front
wing attach) you may also have trimming here as well. Remember there is a
fairing that you will make to make transition from windshield to wing on the
D cell, some builders make it out of aluminium (as per manual) or make the
covers from fibreglass while making their windshield retainer.
I know LP Aero isn't going to send something out that is not usable.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Roland Kriening <kriening@rogers.com>wrote:
Drove to the border yesterday to pick up my windshield. Was happy to
finally
get it home. The product was very well packed.... but (and here is where my
disappointment starts) when I removed the windshield I noticed that the two
sides ( bends and cuts ) were not close to symmetrical. The left side seems
to follow the contours of the nose rib, with a nice curve to it, but the
right side seems to have an abrupt bend instead. If we end up carving an
inch or two off the product during install, it may not be an issue,
otherwise I think I may have a problem installing it. At this point I do
not
have the fuselage built, so cannot do a test fit.
If you have a windshield sitting around or have just received yours, can
you
check to see if yours is indeed symmetrical (mirror image). If this is
indeed going to be an issue, I need to get back to LP Aero sooner than
later.
Roland
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
They've been formed crooked since day one. Maybe the bird they took the
first mould off of was built crooked! lol
Upper edge in most cases needs to be trimmed in a wedge from 1/2" on one
side to the way it comes on the other.... to get it to sit in front of the
cabin roof rivet row. Both wing root/front attach areas get hogged out and
both sides get cut off about an inch to inch and a half.... as well as some
material around the bottom edge. Don't worry.. it will fit. Use a
ceramic/fiber disc in a dremel to do your trimming...
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first mould off of was built crooked! lol
Upper edge in most cases needs to be trimmed in a wedge from 1/2" on one
side to the way it comes on the other.... to get it to sit in front of the
cabin roof rivet row. Both wing root/front attach areas get hogged out and
both sides get cut off about an inch to inch and a half.... as well as some
material around the bottom edge. Don't worry.. it will fit. Use a
ceramic/fiber disc in a dremel to do your trimming...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Micheal" <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Roland,
You WILL be doing some windshield trimming in order to get the best fit
possible. Where the windshield is formed on the top sides (area of front
wing attach) you may also have trimming here as well. Remember there is a
fairing that you will make to make transition from windshield to wing on
the
D cell, some builders make it out of aluminium (as per manual) or make the
covers from fibreglass while making their windshield retainer.
I know LP Aero isn't going to send something out that is not usable.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Roland Kriening
<kriening@rogers.com>wrote:
Drove to the border yesterday to pick up my windshield. Was happy to
finally
get it home. The product was very well packed.... but (and here is where
my
disappointment starts) when I removed the windshield I noticed that the
two
sides ( bends and cuts ) were not close to symmetrical. The left side
seems
to follow the contours of the nose rib, with a nice curve to it, but the
right side seems to have an abrupt bend instead. If we end up carving an
inch or two off the product during install, it may not be an issue,
otherwise I think I may have a problem installing it. At this point I do
not
have the fuselage built, so cannot do a test fit.
If you have a windshield sitting around or have just received yours, can
you
check to see if yours is indeed symmetrical (mirror image). If this is
indeed going to be an issue, I need to get back to LP Aero sooner than
later.
Roland
R56
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
FWIW, in addition to the Dremel disc for cutting the straighter edges, I
found that a cutter bit (also called burr bit) was useful for rough shaping
of the windshield's inside corners at the wing attach area. (See
http://n254mr.com/node/1071 for a pic of some typical cutter bits)
Ron
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
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found that a cutter bit (also called burr bit) was useful for rough shaping
of the windshield's inside corners at the wing attach area. (See
http://n254mr.com/node/1071 for a pic of some typical cutter bits)
Ron
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
They've been formed crooked since day one. Maybe the bird they took the
first mould off of was built crooked! lol
Upper edge in most cases needs to be trimmed in a wedge from 1/2" on one
side to the way it comes on the other.... to get it to sit in front of the
cabin roof rivet row. Both wing root/front attach areas get hogged out and
both sides get cut off about an inch to inch and a half.... as well as some
material around the bottom edge. Don't worry.. it will fit. Use a
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
Does anyone know offhand if the Elite uses the same windshield as the rebel?
Thanks!
Norm
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:54:23
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
They've been formed crooked since day one. Maybe the bird they took the
first mould off of was built crooked! lol
Upper edge in most cases needs to be trimmed in a wedge from 1/2" on one
side to the way it comes on the other.... to get it to sit in front of the
cabin roof rivet row. Both wing root/front attach areas get hogged out and
both sides get cut off about an inch to inch and a half.... as well as some
material around the bottom edge. Don't worry.. it will fit. Use a
ceramic/fiber disc in a dremel to do your trimming...
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
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Thanks!
Norm
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:54:23
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
They've been formed crooked since day one. Maybe the bird they took the
first mould off of was built crooked! lol
Upper edge in most cases needs to be trimmed in a wedge from 1/2" on one
side to the way it comes on the other.... to get it to sit in front of the
cabin roof rivet row. Both wing root/front attach areas get hogged out and
both sides get cut off about an inch to inch and a half.... as well as some
material around the bottom edge. Don't worry.. it will fit. Use a
ceramic/fiber disc in a dremel to do your trimming...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Micheal" <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Roland,
You WILL be doing some windshield trimming in order to get the best fit
possible. Where the windshield is formed on the top sides (area of front
wing attach) you may also have trimming here as well. Remember there is a
fairing that you will make to make transition from windshield to wing on
the
D cell, some builders make it out of aluminium (as per manual) or make the
covers from fibreglass while making their windshield retainer.
I know LP Aero isn't going to send something out that is not usable.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Roland Kriening
<kriening@rogers.com>wrote:
Drove to the border yesterday to pick up my windshield. Was happy to
finally
get it home. The product was very well packed.... but (and here is where
my
disappointment starts) when I removed the windshield I noticed that the
two
sides ( bends and cuts ) were not close to symmetrical. The left side
seems
to follow the contours of the nose rib, with a nice curve to it, but the
right side seems to have an abrupt bend instead. If we end up carving an
inch or two off the product during install, it may not be an issue,
otherwise I think I may have a problem installing it. At this point I do
not
have the fuselage built, so cannot do a test fit.
If you have a windshield sitting around or have just received yours, can
you
check to see if yours is indeed symmetrical (mirror image). If this is
indeed going to be an issue, I need to get back to LP Aero sooner than
later.
Roland
R56
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[rebel-builders] Windshield
YES
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From: <normisler@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Does anyone know offhand if the Elite uses the same windshield as the
rebel?
Thanks!
Norm
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:54:23
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
They've been formed crooked since day one. Maybe the bird they took the
first mould off of was built crooked! lol
Upper edge in most cases needs to be trimmed in a wedge from 1/2" on one
side to the way it comes on the other.... to get it to sit in front of the
cabin roof rivet row. Both wing root/front attach areas get hogged out and
both sides get cut off about an inch to inch and a half.... as well as
some
material around the bottom edge. Don't worry.. it will fit. Use a
ceramic/fiber disc in a dremel to do your trimming...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Micheal" <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield
Roland,
You WILL be doing some windshield trimming in order to get the best fit
possible. Where the windshield is formed on the top sides (area of front
wing attach) you may also have trimming here as well. Remember there is
a
fairing that you will make to make transition from windshield to wing on
the
D cell, some builders make it out of aluminium (as per manual) or make
the
covers from fibreglass while making their windshield retainer.
I know LP Aero isn't going to send something out that is not usable.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Roland Kriening
<kriening@rogers.com>wrote:
Drove to the border yesterday to pick up my windshield. Was happy to
finally
get it home. The product was very well packed.... but (and here is where
my
disappointment starts) when I removed the windshield I noticed that the
two
sides ( bends and cuts ) were not close to symmetrical. The left side
seems
to follow the contours of the nose rib, with a nice curve to it, but the
right side seems to have an abrupt bend instead. If we end up carving an
inch or two off the product during install, it may not be an issue,
otherwise I think I may have a problem installing it. At this point I do
not
have the fuselage built, so cannot do a test fit.
If you have a windshield sitting around or have just received yours, can
you
check to see if yours is indeed symmetrical (mirror image). If this is
indeed going to be an issue, I need to get back to LP Aero sooner than
later.
Roland
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