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[rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
[rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Dear Charlie,
I will let you know about the p/n on the windshield. Back on Thursday.
Jeffrey
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Starr
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Jeffery,
Thanks for the offer; I'll wait to see if it's a SR windshield. Was flying
back from GA a week or so ago, and saw what looked like a long bug stuck to
the windshield - in the right upper corner where it wraps around the wing
root. The "bug" started getting bigger and bigger, and I suddenly realized
it was a hairline crack that kept getting longer. By the time I got on the
ground, it was about 6" - 8" long. I've stop-drilled it and it hasn't
spread any more, but I'm not liking the looks or the position. This seems a
strange place to crack since it is not near any structure that could move,
actually this portion of the windshield floats. I have soft sealant around
all contact areas of the windshield (both sides) and I would hope this would
act as a cushion. Just one of aviations little mysteries.
Ted, if you need a windshield, I can wait (I'm not looking forward to
drilling out the rivets, reinstalling and repainting anyway.
Charlie Starr
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I will let you know about the p/n on the windshield. Back on Thursday.
Jeffrey
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Charlie Starr
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Jeffery,
Thanks for the offer; I'll wait to see if it's a SR windshield. Was flying
back from GA a week or so ago, and saw what looked like a long bug stuck to
the windshield - in the right upper corner where it wraps around the wing
root. The "bug" started getting bigger and bigger, and I suddenly realized
it was a hairline crack that kept getting longer. By the time I got on the
ground, it was about 6" - 8" long. I've stop-drilled it and it hasn't
spread any more, but I'm not liking the looks or the position. This seems a
strange place to crack since it is not near any structure that could move,
actually this portion of the windshield floats. I have soft sealant around
all contact areas of the windshield (both sides) and I would hope this would
act as a cushion. Just one of aviations little mysteries.
Ted, if you need a windshield, I can wait (I'm not looking forward to
drilling out the rivets, reinstalling and repainting anyway.
Charlie Starr
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[rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
How many people need windshields I will check and see how many spares i have and what thickness(super rebel 2500 only) located in central canada.
Doug
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Doug
From: jsteenson1@comcast.net
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:05:08 -0500
Dear Charlie,
I will let you know about the p/n on the windshield. Back on Thursday.
Jeffrey
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Starr
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Jeffery,
Thanks for the offer; I'll wait to see if it's a SR windshield. Was flying
back from GA a week or so ago, and saw what looked like a long bug stuck to
the windshield - in the right upper corner where it wraps around the wing
root. The "bug" started getting bigger and bigger, and I suddenly realized
it was a hairline crack that kept getting longer. By the time I got on the
ground, it was about 6" - 8" long. I've stop-drilled it and it hasn't
spread any more, but I'm not liking the looks or the position. This seems a
strange place to crack since it is not near any structure that could move,
actually this portion of the windshield floats. I have soft sealant around
all contact areas of the windshield (both sides) and I would hope this would
act as a cushion. Just one of aviations little mysteries.
Ted, if you need a windshield, I can wait (I'm not looking forward to
drilling out the rivets, reinstalling and repainting anyway.
Charlie Starr
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[rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
I am still trying to get murphy to make good on our windscreen for 019SR.
(SR3500)
I am not expecting much, so any help in getting one would be great.
-Kyle,
Seattle, WA
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(SR3500)
I am not expecting much, so any help in getting one would be great.
-Kyle,
Seattle, WA
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM, doug wilson <fastback-1@hotmail.com> wrote:
How many people need windshields I will check and see how many spares i
have and what thickness(super rebel 2500 only) located in central canada.
Doug
flyingFrom: jsteenson1@comcast.net
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:05:08 -0500
Dear Charlie,
I will let you know about the p/n on the windshield. Back on Thursday.
Jeffrey
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Starr
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Jeffery,
Thanks for the offer; I'll wait to see if it's a SR windshield. Wastoback from GA a week or so ago, and saw what looked like a long bug stuckrealizedthe windshield - in the right upper corner where it wraps around the wing
root. The "bug" started getting bigger and bigger, and I suddenlytheit was a hairline crack that kept getting longer. By the time I got onaground, it was about 6" - 8" long. I've stop-drilled it and it hasn't
spread any more, but I'm not liking the looks or the position. This seemsmove,strange place to crack since it is not near any structure that couldaroundactually this portion of the windshield floats. I have soft sealantwouldall contact areas of the windshield (both sides) and I would hope this_________________________________________________________________act as a cushion. Just one of aviations little mysteries.
Ted, if you need a windshield, I can wait (I'm not looking forward to
drilling out the rivets, reinstalling and repainting anyway.
Charlie Starr
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[rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Since LP Aero manufactures all Murphy windshields, perhaps those in need
should coordinate directly with LP Aero for one large production run.
I understand that Murphy and LP Aero have a contract. There could be a
couple of ways to resolve this. Murphy could waive the contract and allow LP
Aero to do this one-time mass shipment (perhaps with help from Bob?).
The ugly route is to convince LP Aero that Murphy has violated the terms of
its contract which would allow LP Aero to work directly with builders.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of kyle
martin
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:15 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
I am still trying to get murphy to make good on our windscreen for 019SR.
(SR3500)
I am not expecting much, so any help in getting one would be great.
-Kyle,
Seattle, WA
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should coordinate directly with LP Aero for one large production run.
I understand that Murphy and LP Aero have a contract. There could be a
couple of ways to resolve this. Murphy could waive the contract and allow LP
Aero to do this one-time mass shipment (perhaps with help from Bob?).
The ugly route is to convince LP Aero that Murphy has violated the terms of
its contract which would allow LP Aero to work directly with builders.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of kyle
martin
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:15 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
I am still trying to get murphy to make good on our windscreen for 019SR.
(SR3500)
I am not expecting much, so any help in getting one would be great.
-Kyle,
Seattle, WA
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM, doug wilson <fastback-1@hotmail.com> wrote:
wingHow many people need windshields I will check and see how many spares i
have and what thickness(super rebel 2500 only) located in central canada.
Doug
flyingFrom: jsteenson1@comcast.net
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:05:08 -0500
Dear Charlie,
I will let you know about the p/n on the windshield. Back on Thursday.
Jeffrey
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Starr
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Jeffery,
Thanks for the offer; I'll wait to see if it's a SR windshield. Wastoback from GA a week or so ago, and saw what looked like a long bug stuckthe windshield - in the right upper corner where it wraps around the
seemsrealizedroot. The "bug" started getting bigger and bigger, and I suddenlytheit was a hairline crack that kept getting longer. By the time I got onground, it was about 6" - 8" long. I've stop-drilled it and it hasn't
spread any more, but I'm not liking the looks or the position. This
amove,strange place to crack since it is not near any structure that couldaroundactually this portion of the windshield floats. I have soft sealantwouldall contact areas of the windshield (both sides) and I would hope this_________________________________________________________________act as a cushion. Just one of aviations little mysteries.
Ted, if you need a windshield, I can wait (I'm not looking forward to
drilling out the rivets, reinstalling and repainting anyway.
Charlie Starr
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[rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Please guys !!! Enough already .......
Good grief - who's next, Lycoming !!!??? Alcoa/Alcan !!!???
LP does NOT sell RETAIL ! They ONLY deal with OEM's.
Murphy owns the molds for many of the parts that they sell,
including cowlings, extrusions, etc.
The good folks at LP are not happy being harrassed, but are too nice
to tell you..... Please leave them alone.
Response has been slow from the factory - a lot of the people
you dealt with are laid off. They are up to their @**'s in alligators !
They ARE shipping some backorders, but it's very difficult out there !
The only alternative is to close the doors - would you prefer that
to a slow response and long delivery times ???
Nobody is doing this just to make your life difficult !
There WAS a problem with the 'Shipping' emails at the factory -
NONE were read !! That is NOW fixed, so if you want a windshield,
please order directly from: MurTech@murphyair.com
You will get your windshield as soon as it can be made - remember,
LP is also suffering with this economy, so delivery will be a bit longer.
PS - please be prepared to pay when you order - everybody wants
to stay in business.
Sorry if I've offended anybody, but this was becoming a lynch mob !
If it becomes possible, I'm prepared to handle some SIMPLE
Parts Quotes/Orders from here - but the factory must approve that.
I think they will be able to look after any real orders themselves
for now. Please give them a chance once more ....
Thanks !
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Good grief - who's next, Lycoming !!!??? Alcoa/Alcan !!!???
LP does NOT sell RETAIL ! They ONLY deal with OEM's.
Murphy owns the molds for many of the parts that they sell,
including cowlings, extrusions, etc.
The good folks at LP are not happy being harrassed, but are too nice
to tell you..... Please leave them alone.
Response has been slow from the factory - a lot of the people
you dealt with are laid off. They are up to their @**'s in alligators !
They ARE shipping some backorders, but it's very difficult out there !
The only alternative is to close the doors - would you prefer that
to a slow response and long delivery times ???
Nobody is doing this just to make your life difficult !
There WAS a problem with the 'Shipping' emails at the factory -
NONE were read !! That is NOW fixed, so if you want a windshield,
please order directly from: MurTech@murphyair.com
You will get your windshield as soon as it can be made - remember,
LP is also suffering with this economy, so delivery will be a bit longer.
PS - please be prepared to pay when you order - everybody wants
to stay in business.
Sorry if I've offended anybody, but this was becoming a lynch mob !
If it becomes possible, I'm prepared to handle some SIMPLE
Parts Quotes/Orders from here - but the factory must approve that.
I think they will be able to look after any real orders themselves
for now. Please give them a chance once more ....
Thanks !
--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 October 2009 16:30, Eric Fogelin wrote:
wrote:Since LP Aero manufactures all Murphy windshields, perhaps those in need
should coordinate directly with LP Aero for one large production run.
I understand that Murphy and LP Aero have a contract. There could be a
couple of ways to resolve this. Murphy could waive the contract and allow
LP Aero to do this one-time mass shipment (perhaps with help from Bob?).
The ugly route is to convince LP Aero that Murphy has violated the terms
of its contract which would allow LP Aero to work directly with builders.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of kyle
martin
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:15 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
I am still trying to get murphy to make good on our windscreen for 019SR.
(SR3500)
I am not expecting much, so any help in getting one would be great.
-Kyle,
Seattle, WA
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM, doug wilson <fastback-1@hotmail.com>
wingHow many people need windshields I will check and see how many spares i
have and what thickness(super rebel 2500 only) located in central
canada.
Doug
flyingFrom: jsteenson1@comcast.net
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:05:08 -0500
Dear Charlie,
I will let you know about the p/n on the windshield. Back on Thursday.
Jeffrey
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Starr
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Jeffery,
Thanks for the offer; I'll wait to see if it's a SR windshield. Was
toback from GA a week or so ago, and saw what looked like a long bug
stuck
the windshield - in the right upper corner where it wraps around the
seemsrealizedroot. The "bug" started getting bigger and bigger, and I suddenly
theit was a hairline crack that kept getting longer. By the time I got on
ground, it was about 6" - 8" long. I've stop-drilled it and it hasn't
spread any more, but I'm not liking the looks or the position. This
a
move,strange place to crack since it is not near any structure that could
aroundactually this portion of the windshield floats. I have soft sealant
wouldall contact areas of the windshield (both sides) and I would hope this
act as a cushion. Just one of aviations little mysteries.
Ted, if you need a windshield, I can wait (I'm not looking forward to
drilling out the rivets, reinstalling and repainting anyway.
Charlie Starr
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[rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
Bob,
I hear what you are saying, and I agree, closing their doors would be
terrible. However, if I understand correctly, you want me to be prepared to
pay a second time for a windscreen that was never delivered? And hope that
this time it actually comes? I do not think that I should be prepared to pay
for something that was already paid for when the kit was purchased. This may
not be the case with other kits, however, my windscreen was paid for in 1998
when the kit was purchased, and I plan to do my best to hold Murphy
accountable to that.
Thank you for your input and attention to our needs.
-Kyle
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I hear what you are saying, and I agree, closing their doors would be
terrible. However, if I understand correctly, you want me to be prepared to
pay a second time for a windscreen that was never delivered? And hope that
this time it actually comes? I do not think that I should be prepared to pay
for something that was already paid for when the kit was purchased. This may
not be the case with other kits, however, my windscreen was paid for in 1998
when the kit was purchased, and I plan to do my best to hold Murphy
accountable to that.
Thank you for your input and attention to our needs.
-Kyle
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca> wrote:
Please guys !!! Enough already .......
Good grief - who's next, Lycoming !!!??? Alcoa/Alcan !!!???
LP does NOT sell RETAIL ! They ONLY deal with OEM's.
Murphy owns the molds for many of the parts that they sell,
including cowlings, extrusions, etc.
The good folks at LP are not happy being harrassed, but are too nice
to tell you..... Please leave them alone.
Response has been slow from the factory - a lot of the people
you dealt with are laid off. They are up to their @**'s in alligators !
They ARE shipping some backorders, but it's very difficult out there !
The only alternative is to close the doors - would you prefer that
to a slow response and long delivery times ???
Nobody is doing this just to make your life difficult !
There WAS a problem with the 'Shipping' emails at the factory -
NONE were read !! That is NOW fixed, so if you want a windshield,
please order directly from: MurTech@murphyair.com
You will get your windshield as soon as it can be made - remember,
LP is also suffering with this economy, so delivery will be a bit longer.
PS - please be prepared to pay when you order - everybody wants
to stay in business.
Sorry if I've offended anybody, but this was becoming a lynch mob !
If it becomes possible, I'm prepared to handle some SIMPLE
Parts Quotes/Orders from here - but the factory must approve that.
I think they will be able to look after any real orders themselves
for now. Please give them a chance once more ....
Thanks !
--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 26 October 2009 16:30, Eric Fogelin wrote:kyleSince LP Aero manufactures all Murphy windshields, perhaps those in need
should coordinate directly with LP Aero for one large production run.
I understand that Murphy and LP Aero have a contract. There could be a
couple of ways to resolve this. Murphy could waive the contract and allow
LP Aero to do this one-time mass shipment (perhaps with help from Bob?).
The ugly route is to convince LP Aero that Murphy has violated the terms
of its contract which would allow LP Aero to work directly with builders.
Eric
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Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:15 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
I am still trying to get murphy to make good on our windscreen for 019SR.
(SR3500)
I am not expecting much, so any help in getting one would be great.
-Kyle,
Seattle, WA
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM, doug wilson <fastback-1@hotmail.com>Thursday.How many people need windshields I will check and see how many spares i
have and what thickness(super rebel 2500 only) located in central
canada.
Doug
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Thanks Kyle !
I was talking about NEW orders. Back orders are another issue,
and I know the factory IS trying to clear up backorders - some have
been shipped recently. It can be a bit more difficult for those who are
not the original buyers - it's hard to trace what went where ....
I believe the factory will come through on the traceable backorders,
just as soon as money & time allow ...
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I was talking about NEW orders. Back orders are another issue,
and I know the factory IS trying to clear up backorders - some have
been shipped recently. It can be a bit more difficult for those who are
not the original buyers - it's hard to trace what went where ....
I believe the factory will come through on the traceable backorders,
just as soon as money & time allow ...
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On Monday 26 October 2009 17:59, kyle martin wrote:
Bob,
I hear what you are saying, and I agree, closing their doors would be
terrible. However, if I understand correctly, you want me to be prepared
to pay a second time for a windscreen that was never delivered? And hope
that this time it actually comes? I do not think that I should be prepared
to pay for something that was already paid for when the kit was purchased.
This may not be the case with other kits, however, my windscreen was paid
for in 1998 when the kit was purchased, and I plan to do my best to hold
Murphy accountable to that.
Thank you for your input and attention to our needs.
-Kyle
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca> wrote:Please guys !!! Enough already .......
Good grief - who's next, Lycoming !!!??? Alcoa/Alcan !!!???
LP does NOT sell RETAIL ! They ONLY deal with OEM's.
Murphy owns the molds for many of the parts that they sell,
including cowlings, extrusions, etc.
The good folks at LP are not happy being harrassed, but are too nice
to tell you..... Please leave them alone.
Response has been slow from the factory - a lot of the people
you dealt with are laid off. They are up to their @**'s in alligators
! They ARE shipping some backorders, but it's very difficult out there !
The only alternative is to close the doors - would you prefer that to a
slow response and long delivery times ???
Nobody is doing this just to make your life difficult !
There WAS a problem with the 'Shipping' emails at the factory -
NONE were read !! That is NOW fixed, so if you want a windshield,
please order directly from: MurTech@murphyair.com
You will get your windshield as soon as it can be made - remember,
LP is also suffering with this economy, so delivery will be a bit
longer.
PS - please be prepared to pay when you order - everybody wants
to stay in business.
Sorry if I've offended anybody, but this was becoming a lynch mob !
If it becomes possible, I'm prepared to handle some SIMPLE
Parts Quotes/Orders from here - but the factory must approve that.
I think they will be able to look after any real orders themselves
for now. Please give them a chance once more ....
Thanks !
--
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On Monday 26 October 2009 16:30, Eric Fogelin wrote:kyleSince LP Aero manufactures all Murphy windshields, perhaps those in
need should coordinate directly with LP Aero for one large production
run.
I understand that Murphy and LP Aero have a contract. There could be a
couple of ways to resolve this. Murphy could waive the contract and
allow LP Aero to do this one-time mass shipment (perhaps with help
from Bob?).
The ugly route is to convince LP Aero that Murphy has violated the
terms of its contract which would allow LP Aero to work directly with
builders.
Eric
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I am still trying to get murphy to make good on our windscreen for
019SR. (SR3500)
I am not expecting much, so any help in getting one would be great.
-Kyle,
Seattle, WA
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Wow, sounds like there's a lynching mob looking for blood.
FWIW....... When you purchase a "Used Kit" or "Second Hand" (sometimes 3rd,
4th and so on), you better be making sure you're getting the entire kit.
Whomever you purchased the kit from is responsible for making sure your
getting everything you've paid for (IE: sold as is). Over ten years or
later, you're looking to receive parts from a purchase, of that you weren't
the Original Purchaser....... I wish you Good Luck! So the term "Buyer Be
Ware", goes a long way when buying something used, whether it be a TV, Car
or Kit Airplane.
Pick your battles, no sense banging your head against a perfectly good wall.
Cheers,
Jeff
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FWIW....... When you purchase a "Used Kit" or "Second Hand" (sometimes 3rd,
4th and so on), you better be making sure you're getting the entire kit.
Whomever you purchased the kit from is responsible for making sure your
getting everything you've paid for (IE: sold as is). Over ten years or
later, you're looking to receive parts from a purchase, of that you weren't
the Original Purchaser....... I wish you Good Luck! So the term "Buyer Be
Ware", goes a long way when buying something used, whether it be a TV, Car
or Kit Airplane.
Pick your battles, no sense banging your head against a perfectly good wall.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM, kyle martin <alpsnowman@gmail.com> wrote:
Bob,
I hear what you are saying, and I agree, closing their doors would be
terrible. However, if I understand correctly, you want me to be prepared to
pay a second time for a windscreen that was never delivered? And hope that
this time it actually comes? I do not think that I should be prepared to
pay
for something that was already paid for when the kit was purchased. This
may
not be the case with other kits, however, my windscreen was paid for in
1998
when the kit was purchased, and I plan to do my best to hold Murphy
accountable to that.
Thank you for your input and attention to our needs.
-Kyle
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca> wrote:
persons.Please guys !!! Enough already .......
Good grief - who's next, Lycoming !!!??? Alcoa/Alcan !!!???
LP does NOT sell RETAIL ! They ONLY deal with OEM's.
Murphy owns the molds for many of the parts that they sell,
including cowlings, extrusions, etc.
The good folks at LP are not happy being harrassed, but are too nice
to tell you..... Please leave them alone.
Response has been slow from the factory - a lot of the people
you dealt with are laid off. They are up to their @**'s in alligators !
They ARE shipping some backorders, but it's very difficult out there !
The only alternative is to close the doors - would you prefer that
to a slow response and long delivery times ???
Nobody is doing this just to make your life difficult !
There WAS a problem with the 'Shipping' emails at the factory -
NONE were read !! That is NOW fixed, so if you want a windshield,
please order directly from: MurTech@murphyair.com
You will get your windshield as soon as it can be made - remember,
LP is also suffering with this economy, so delivery will be a bit longer.
PS - please be prepared to pay when you order - everybody wants
to stay in business.
Sorry if I've offended anybody, but this was becoming a lynch mob !
If it becomes possible, I'm prepared to handle some SIMPLE
Parts Quotes/Orders from here - but the factory must approve that.
I think they will be able to look after any real orders themselves
for now. Please give them a chance once more ....
Thanks !
--
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On Monday 26 October 2009 16:30, Eric Fogelin wrote:Since LP Aero manufactures all Murphy windshields, perhaps those inallowshould coordinate directly with LP Aero for one large production run.
I understand that Murphy and LP Aero have a contract. There could be a
couple of ways to resolve this. Murphy could waive the contract andBob?).LP Aero to do this one-time mass shipment (perhaps with help fromtermsThe ugly route is to convince LP Aero that Murphy has violated thebuilders.of its contract which would allow LP Aero to work directly with019SR.kyleEric
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Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
I am still trying to get murphy to make good on our windscreen foriwrote:(SR3500)
I am not expecting much, so any help in getting one would be great.
-Kyle,
Seattle, WA
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I have all the documentation, original PO's and Bill of Sale, so I am hoping
that will be sufficient to back up my case. Thanks.
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that will be sufficient to back up my case. Thanks.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow, sounds like there's a lynching mob looking for blood.
FWIW....... When you purchase a "Used Kit" or "Second Hand" (sometimes 3rd,
4th and so on), you better be making sure you're getting the entire kit.
Whomever you purchased the kit from is responsible for making sure your
getting everything you've paid for (IE: sold as is). Over ten years or
later, you're looking to receive parts from a purchase, of that you weren't
the Original Purchaser....... I wish you Good Luck! So the term "Buyer Be
Ware", goes a long way when buying something used, whether it be a TV, Car
or Kit Airplane.
Pick your battles, no sense banging your head against a perfectly good
wall.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM, kyle martin <alpsnowman@gmail.com>
wrote:
toBob,
I hear what you are saying, and I agree, closing their doors would be
terrible. However, if I understand correctly, you want me to be preparedthatpay a second time for a windscreen that was never delivered? And hopewrote:this time it actually comes? I do not think that I should be prepared to
pay
for something that was already paid for when the kit was purchased. This
may
not be the case with other kits, however, my windscreen was paid for in
1998
when the kit was purchased, and I plan to do my best to hold Murphy
accountable to that.
Thank you for your input and attention to our needs.
-Kyle
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca>!Please guys !!! Enough already .......
Good grief - who's next, Lycoming !!!??? Alcoa/Alcan !!!???
LP does NOT sell RETAIL ! They ONLY deal with OEM's.
Murphy owns the molds for many of the parts that they sell,
including cowlings, extrusions, etc.
The good folks at LP are not happy being harrassed, but are too nice
to tell you..... Please leave them alone.
Response has been slow from the factory - a lot of the people
you dealt with are laid off. They are up to their @**'s in alligatorslonger.They ARE shipping some backorders, but it's very difficult out there !
The only alternative is to close the doors - would you prefer that
to a slow response and long delivery times ???
Nobody is doing this just to make your life difficult !
There WAS a problem with the 'Shipping' emails at the factory -
NONE were read !! That is NOW fixed, so if you want a windshield,
please order directly from: MurTech@murphyair.com
You will get your windshield as soon as it can be made - remember,
LP is also suffering with this economy, so delivery will be a bitthepersons.PS - please be prepared to pay when you order - everybody wants
to stay in business.
Sorry if I've offended anybody, but this was becoming a lynch mob !
If it becomes possible, I'm prepared to handle some SIMPLE
Parts Quotes/Orders from here - but the factory must approve that.
I think they will be able to look after any real orders themselves
for now. Please give them a chance once more ....
Thanks !
--
......bobp
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http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com
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If anybody needs- have 2 pt.no. 1347 windshield S.R.2500 e-mail if interested.
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:35:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
From: alpsnowman@gmail.com
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
I have all the documentation, original PO's and Bill of Sale, so I am hoping
that will be sufficient to back up my case. Thanks.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.comwrote:Wow, sounds like there's a lynching mob looking for blood.
FWIW....... When you purchase a "Used Kit" or "Second Hand" (sometimes 3rd,
4th and so on), you better be making sure you're getting the entire kit.
Whomever you purchased the kit from is responsible for making sure your
getting everything you've paid for (IE: sold as is). Over ten years or
later, you're looking to receive parts from a purchase, of that you weren't
the Original Purchaser....... I wish you Good Luck! So the term "Buyer Be
Ware", goes a long way when buying something used, whether it be a TV, Car
or Kit Airplane.
Pick your battles, no sense banging your head against a perfectly good
wall.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM, kyle martin <alpsnowman@gmail.com>
wrote:
toBob,
I hear what you are saying, and I agree, closing their doors would be
terrible. However, if I understand correctly, you want me to be preparedthatpay a second time for a windscreen that was never delivered? And hopewrote:this time it actually comes? I do not think that I should be prepared to
pay
for something that was already paid for when the kit was purchased. This
may
not be the case with other kits, however, my windscreen was paid for in
1998
when the kit was purchased, and I plan to do my best to hold Murphy
accountable to that.
Thank you for your input and attention to our needs.
-Kyle
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca>!longer.thepersons.aneedOfallow Bob?). terms builders.spares019SR.BehalfiWasbuggottheThishasn'tsealantcouldforwardto
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Note:
Just a reminder out there folks, the 1347 windshield can be used with the
SR2500 (Super Rebel) or Yukon aircraft............. NOT the Moose, the
windscreen is thicker.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Just a reminder out there folks, the 1347 windshield can be used with the
SR2500 (Super Rebel) or Yukon aircraft............. NOT the Moose, the
windscreen is thicker.
Cheers,
Jeff
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If anybody needs- have 2 pt.no. 1347 windshield S.R.2500 e-mail if
interested.
doug
hopingDate: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:35:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
From: alpsnowman@gmail.com
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
I have all the documentation, original PO's and Bill of Sale, so I amwestcoastkitplanes@gmail.comthat will be sufficient to back up my case. Thanks.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jeff Micheal <3rd,wrote:Wow, sounds like there's a lynching mob looking for blood.
FWIW....... When you purchase a "Used Kit" or "Second Hand" (sometimeskit.4th and so on), you better be making sure you're getting the entireweren'tWhomever you purchased the kit from is responsible for making sure your
getting everything you've paid for (IE: sold as is). Over ten years or
later, you're looking to receive parts from a purchase, of that youBethe Original Purchaser....... I wish you Good Luck! So the term "BuyerCarWare", goes a long way when buying something used, whether it be a TV,preparedor Kit Airplane.
Pick your battles, no sense banging your head against a perfectly good
wall.
Cheers,
Jeff
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toto thatThisinnicewrote:alligatorsthere !!senderlonger.totallyintherun.beandatheBehalfforOfgreat.fastback-1@hotmail.comcentralspareswindshield.BehalflongWasaroundbugsuddenlyIitgotposition.thatThishopesealant_________________________________________________________________forward
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You are correct the moose is .250 as opposed to 3/16 but i have used the .250 in an SR also .If someone needs a.250 I also have one of them.
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doug
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:43:03 -0700
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
From: westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Note:
Just a reminder out there folks, the 1347 windshield can be used with the
SR2500 (Super Rebel) or Yukon aircraft............. NOT the Moose, the
windscreen is thicker.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM, doug wilson <fastback-1@hotmail.com>wrote:
If anybody needs- have 2 pt.no. 1347 windshield S.R.2500 e-mail if
interested.
doug
hopingDate: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:35:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield for SR
From: alpsnowman@gmail.com
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
I have all the documentation, original PO's and Bill of Sale, so I amwestcoastkitplanes@gmail.comthat will be sufficient to back up my case. Thanks.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jeff Micheal <3rd,kit.weren'tBeCarpreparedtoThisinnicealligatorsthere !sendertotallyinrun.beandtheBehalfforgreat.fastback-1@hotmail.comcentralwindshield.longaroundsuddenlyIitposition.thathope_________________________________________________________________
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I have a friend with the heaver moose windsield new untouched,he wants
1000.00 can for it if any one is interested.
Dennis Finley
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[quote]
You are correct the moose is .250 as opposed to 3/16 but i have used the .250 in an SR also .If someone needs a.250 I also have one of them.
1000.00 can for it if any one is interested.
Dennis Finley
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM, doug wilson <fastback-1@hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]
You are correct the moose is .250 as opposed to 3/16 but i have used the .250 in an SR also .If someone needs a.250 I also have one of them.