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[rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
[rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
I used the firewall sealant from Vans: CS 1900. You can order from their
online catalog. Here is the info from Vans:
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Firewall Sealant
Sealant for Firewall Structures
CS 1900 is a compound for sealing firewall structures. It is elastomeric at
operating temperatures from minus 65 degrees to plus 400 degrees F and
able to withstand flash temperatures of 2000 degrees F. This product can be
used as a perimeter firewall seal on existing aircraft or during
construction of
new aircraft. In new aircraft, as the skins are being installed, the flange
of the
firewall should be coated with a thin layer and the skin riveted on while
the material is still uncured ("wet").
(Limited shelf life of approximately 4 months from purchase).
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Eric
Elite Amphib N645E
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Eubanks
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:23 PM
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Subject: [rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Hello All
I am getting ready to rivet Fus-10 & 70 to the firewall I was wondering what
is the best thing (fireproof) to use to caulk the large gaps between the
tabs on the firewall?
Charlie E. 802R
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online catalog. Here is the info from Vans:
---
Firewall Sealant
Sealant for Firewall Structures
CS 1900 is a compound for sealing firewall structures. It is elastomeric at
operating temperatures from minus 65 degrees to plus 400 degrees F and
able to withstand flash temperatures of 2000 degrees F. This product can be
used as a perimeter firewall seal on existing aircraft or during
construction of
new aircraft. In new aircraft, as the skins are being installed, the flange
of the
firewall should be coated with a thin layer and the skin riveted on while
the material is still uncured ("wet").
(Limited shelf life of approximately 4 months from purchase).
---
Eric
Elite Amphib N645E
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Eubanks
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:23 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Hello All
I am getting ready to rivet Fus-10 & 70 to the firewall I was wondering what
is the best thing (fireproof) to use to caulk the large gaps between the
tabs on the firewall?
Charlie E. 802R
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[rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Charlie,
I used 3M Fire Barrier 2000 (ACS p/n 05-00949) -- excellent stuff, very
heavy duty when cured. A tube is $20, but it goes a long way. I did both
front and rear sides of the FW flange corner holes and also used it for
several other through-FW mounts, bolts, throttle/mixture cable and wire
bundle pass through's, etc., and still have more than a half tube left.
Highly recommended.
Ron
254R
http://n254mr.com
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I used 3M Fire Barrier 2000 (ACS p/n 05-00949) -- excellent stuff, very
heavy duty when cured. A tube is $20, but it goes a long way. I did both
front and rear sides of the FW flange corner holes and also used it for
several other through-FW mounts, bolts, throttle/mixture cable and wire
bundle pass through's, etc., and still have more than a half tube left.
Highly recommended.
Ron
254R
http://n254mr.com
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I am getting ready to rivet Fus-10 & 70 to the firewall I was wondering
what
is the best thing (fireproof) to use to caulk the large gaps between the
tabs on the firewall?
Charlie E. 802R
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[rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
That's what I love about this Rebel List, you ask a question and you get
answers. Thanks to all who replied to my caulking question.
Charlie E. 802R
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answers. Thanks to all who replied to my caulking question.
Charlie E. 802R
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From: "Charlie Eubanks" <charlie@troyairpark.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:23 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Hello All
I am getting ready to rivet Fus-10 & 70 to the firewall I was wondering
what
is the best thing (fireproof) to use to caulk the large gaps between the
tabs on the firewall?
Charlie E. 802R
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[rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Hi Guys,
I'm currently installing the elevator trim tab servo motor on my moose quick
build.. The one MAM shipped is manufactured by The Ray Allen Company.
Everything (motor casing, clevis forks) is made out of a hard plastic
material. The push rod itself is a threaded metal rod, though.
My questions: Is anyone else using this set up? If not, which system are
you using?
I confess, I'm a little concerned about those flimsy little clevis forks and
the plastic drive pin....especially in cold weather.
Thanks,
Fred
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I'm currently installing the elevator trim tab servo motor on my moose quick
build.. The one MAM shipped is manufactured by The Ray Allen Company.
Everything (motor casing, clevis forks) is made out of a hard plastic
material. The push rod itself is a threaded metal rod, though.
My questions: Is anyone else using this set up? If not, which system are
you using?
I confess, I'm a little concerned about those flimsy little clevis forks and
the plastic drive pin....especially in cold weather.
Thanks,
Fred
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[rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Fred,
Have had the Ray Allen servo and pushrod on my Super Rebel (both elevator
and rudder trim) for almost 3 years with no problems.
There was a safety bulletin about installing a metal tube reinforcement over
the threaded push-rod, some time back. Might want to see if this is
included in your kit. Also recall that a slower acting servo was sent as a
replacement for the original - but that was a number of years ago.
I did have a run away (fortunately, nose up) trim during my test flying
period (a faulty trim switch in the stick). I installed red-guarded trim
cut-off safety switches along with a trim in motion "sounder" in the
elevator system as a precaution if this should ever happen again. Nose up
at low power wasn't a big problem - however, I wouldn't want a run away trim
to nose down!
Charlie Starr N96CS
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
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Have had the Ray Allen servo and pushrod on my Super Rebel (both elevator
and rudder trim) for almost 3 years with no problems.
There was a safety bulletin about installing a metal tube reinforcement over
the threaded push-rod, some time back. Might want to see if this is
included in your kit. Also recall that a slower acting servo was sent as a
replacement for the original - but that was a number of years ago.
I did have a run away (fortunately, nose up) trim during my test flying
period (a faulty trim switch in the stick). I installed red-guarded trim
cut-off safety switches along with a trim in motion "sounder" in the
elevator system as a precaution if this should ever happen again. Nose up
at low power wasn't a big problem - however, I wouldn't want a run away trim
to nose down!
Charlie Starr N96CS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Messinger (fredm)" <fredmessinger@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Hi Guys,
I'm currently installing the elevator trim tab servo motor on my moose
quick
build.. The one MAM shipped is manufactured by The Ray Allen Company.
Everything (motor casing, clevis forks) is made out of a hard plastic
material. The push rod itself is a threaded metal rod, though.
My questions: Is anyone else using this set up? If not, which system
are
you using?
I confess, I'm a little concerned about those flimsy little clevis forks
and
the plastic drive pin....especially in cold weather.
Thanks,
Fred
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[rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
YES, and it does look flimsy, and is used on a lot of planes and I never
hear of a failure. So I now have it in my rudder and elevator trim
systems.
Dick Wampach SR-108
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:45 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Hi Guys,
I'm currently installing the elevator trim tab servo motor on my moose
quick
build.. The one MAM shipped is manufactured by The Ray Allen Company.
Everything (motor casing, clevis forks) is made out of a hard plastic
material. The push rod itself is a threaded metal rod, though.
My questions: Is anyone else using this set up? If not, which system
are
you using?
I confess, I'm a little concerned about those flimsy little clevis forks
and
the plastic drive pin....especially in cold weather.
Thanks,
Fred
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hear of a failure. So I now have it in my rudder and elevator trim
systems.
Dick Wampach SR-108
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Fred Messinger (fredm)
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:45 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Hi Guys,
I'm currently installing the elevator trim tab servo motor on my moose
quick
build.. The one MAM shipped is manufactured by The Ray Allen Company.
Everything (motor casing, clevis forks) is made out of a hard plastic
material. The push rod itself is a threaded metal rod, though.
My questions: Is anyone else using this set up? If not, which system
are
you using?
I confess, I'm a little concerned about those flimsy little clevis forks
and
the plastic drive pin....especially in cold weather.
Thanks,
Fred
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I did use it on my Elite
640E
Hans
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Hans Kuck
P.O.Box 2212
Sechelt B.C.
V0N 3A0
Canada
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640E
Hans
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Fred Messinger (fredm) <
fredmessinger@gmail.com> wrote:
--Hi Guys,
I'm currently installing the elevator trim tab servo motor on my moose
quick
build.. The one MAM shipped is manufactured by The Ray Allen Company.
Everything (motor casing, clevis forks) is made out of a hard plastic
material. The push rod itself is a threaded metal rod, though.
My questions: Is anyone else using this set up? If not, which system are
you using?
I confess, I'm a little concerned about those flimsy little clevis forks
and
the plastic drive pin....especially in cold weather.
Thanks,
Fred
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Hans Kuck
P.O.Box 2212
Sechelt B.C.
V0N 3A0
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[rebel-builders] Firewell caulk
Good feedback. Maybe I'm being a nervous Nellie.
Thanks for the input, guys!
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Thanks for the input, guys!
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Hans Kuck <hansk3d@gmail.com> wrote:
I did use it on my Elite
640E
Hans
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Fred Messinger (fredm) <
fredmessinger@gmail.com> wrote:
areHi Guys,
I'm currently installing the elevator trim tab servo motor on my moose
quick
build.. The one MAM shipped is manufactured by The Ray Allen Company.
Everything (motor casing, clevis forks) is made out of a hard plastic
material. The push rod itself is a threaded metal rod, though.
My questions: Is anyone else using this set up? If not, which system--you using?
I confess, I'm a little concerned about those flimsy little clevis forks
and
the plastic drive pin....especially in cold weather.
Thanks,
Fred
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