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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Die springs

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:24 pm

I'm just assuming Nig... I saw pics of Phiippe's mess.. and a day later I
got an email from a Gregory Aldea looking for struts for a renegade spirit
with shipping costs to France. Maybe not even connect.. if not I'm sorry for
the verbal diarrhoea!

----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Die springs

Thanks Wayne

I didn't know Philippe had contacted you about them. He's had a FUS 5
collapse and is grounded till it's repaired.
He was away in Africa with work last week but he's home again now so I'll
contact him tomorrow to see if he received the details alright.

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 29 April 2009 17:15
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Renegade Spirit Shock Rings

Or Nig.. your friend in France... that emailed me 3 weeks back.. could
have
responded to the email and pics I sent him for die spring struts for it!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Renegade Spirit Shock Rings

Hi Nig !

If the bolts are the same spacing as the Rebel - which I believe
they are .... we've been using stock 9044 rings for years. MUCH
easier than trying to pull that long piece of bungee around !!

These 9044's are stock for Piper products - 9/16" thick, and 4.4"
ID. We use 2 per side, each, front & back, for a total of 8, for
lighter Rebels, and add one more on top of the others for heavier
Rebels - a total of 12. They are available from Aircraft Spruce,
and others - pays to shop, as prices vary widely !

The trick is to put one over the top bolt, inside the penny
washer, then hook a 'come-along', or nylon cargo strap with
a ratchet, to the bottom end. The other end of the strap
goes to the bottom of the gear leg tube. Just ratchet until
the bungee is past the bottom bolt, and use a large screwdriver
to lever it onto the bolt. Top bolt faces rear, bottom bolt front ...

Or .... you can just buy a length of 1/2" bungee & try
to wrestle it around the bolts, tightening after each wrap.
It is difficult & dangerous, and usually loosens after a few
landings, necessitating re-tensioning .... :-(

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.PattersonAeroSales.com

http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

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Hi All

Anyone got an idea which shock rings the Renegade Spirit uses (I think
for
the undercarriage)

Thanks
Nig
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Philippe BERJAUD

[rebel-builders] Die springs

Post by Philippe BERJAUD » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:24 pm

Hello Wayne,
Sorry Wayne, I received many pictures from Bob, but I haven't received any pictures from you. There might have been a problem. I suppose the pictures were concerning the spring gear ?
Philippe


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I'm just assuming Nig... I saw pics of Phiippe's mess.. and a day later I
got an email from a Gregory Aldea looking for struts for a renegade spirit
with shipping costs to France. Maybe not even connect.. if not I'm sorry for
the verbal diarrhoea!

----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Die springs

Thanks Wayne

I didn't know Philippe had contacted you about them. He's had a FUS 5
collapse and is grounded till it's repaired.
He was away in Africa with work last week but he's home again now so I'll
contact him tomorrow to see if he received the details alright.

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 29 April 2009 17:15
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Renegade Spirit Shock Rings

Or Nig.. your friend in France... that emailed me 3 weeks back.. could
have
responded to the email and pics I sent him for die spring struts for it!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Renegade Spirit Shock Rings

Hi Nig !

If the bolts are the same spacing as the Rebel - which I believe
they are .... we've been using stock 9044 rings for years. MUCH
easier than trying to pull that long piece of bungee around !!

These 9044's are stock for Piper products - 9/16" thick, and 4.4"
ID. We use 2 per side, each, front & back, for a total of 8, for
lighter Rebels, and add one more on top of the others for heavier
Rebels - a total of 12. They are available from Aircraft Spruce,
and others - pays to shop, as prices vary widely !

The trick is to put one over the top bolt, inside the penny
washer, then hook a 'come-along', or nylon cargo strap with
a ratchet, to the bottom end. The other end of the strap
goes to the bottom of the gear leg tube. Just ratchet until
the bungee is past the bottom bolt, and use a large screwdriver
to lever it onto the bolt. Top bolt faces rear, bottom bolt front ...

Or .... you can just buy a length of 1/2" bungee & try
to wrestle it around the bolts, tightening after each wrap.
It is difficult & dangerous, and usually loosens after a few
landings, necessitating re-tensioning .... :-(

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.PattersonAeroSales.com

http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

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N.Smith

[rebel-builders] Die springs

Post by N.Smith » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:24 pm

Hi Wayne, I see what you mean :-) I've never heard of Gregory and the
renegade question came from Spain. I was a bit confused but after a long day
breathing dremel and 6061 dust I assumed it was something I'd missed :-)

No probs, glad it's all a lot clearer now after several pints of lager at
this end :0)

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 29 April 2009 21:59
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Die springs

I'm just assuming Nig... I saw pics of Phiippe's mess.. and a day later I
got an email from a Gregory Aldea looking for struts for a renegade spirit
with shipping costs to France. Maybe not even connect.. if not I'm sorry for

the verbal diarrhoea!

----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Die springs

Thanks Wayne

I didn't know Philippe had contacted you about them. He's had a FUS 5
collapse and is grounded till it's repaired.
He was away in Africa with work last week but he's home again now so I'll
contact him tomorrow to see if he received the details alright.

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 29 April 2009 17:15
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Renegade Spirit Shock Rings

Or Nig.. your friend in France... that emailed me 3 weeks back.. could
have
responded to the email and pics I sent him for die spring struts for it!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Renegade Spirit Shock Rings

Hi Nig !

If the bolts are the same spacing as the Rebel - which I believe
they are .... we've been using stock 9044 rings for years. MUCH
easier than trying to pull that long piece of bungee around !!

These 9044's are stock for Piper products - 9/16" thick, and 4.4"
ID. We use 2 per side, each, front & back, for a total of 8, for
lighter Rebels, and add one more on top of the others for heavier
Rebels - a total of 12. They are available from Aircraft Spruce,
and others - pays to shop, as prices vary widely !

The trick is to put one over the top bolt, inside the penny
washer, then hook a 'come-along', or nylon cargo strap with
a ratchet, to the bottom end. The other end of the strap
goes to the bottom of the gear leg tube. Just ratchet until
the bungee is past the bottom bolt, and use a large screwdriver
to lever it onto the bolt. Top bolt faces rear, bottom bolt front ...

Or .... you can just buy a length of 1/2" bungee & try
to wrestle it around the bolts, tightening after each wrap.
It is difficult & dangerous, and usually loosens after a few
landings, necessitating re-tensioning .... :-(

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.PattersonAeroSales.com

http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
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Hi All

Anyone got an idea which shock rings the Renegade Spirit uses (I think
for
the undercarriage)

Thanks
Nig
745E


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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Die springs

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:24 pm

Too much aluminum dust for me as well Nig.

Hope all is well over there.. my brother went back April 4th to run the
Skyservice crew again for a 4th or 5th year (I lost track). They're flying
out of Cardiff this round.. Murray has a house in Talygarn Wales this time.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Die springs

Hi Wayne, I see what you mean :-) I've never heard of Gregory and the
renegade question came from Spain. I was a bit confused but after a long
day
breathing dremel and 6061 dust I assumed it was something I'd missed :-)

No probs, glad it's all a lot clearer now after several pints of lager at
this end :0)

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 29 April 2009 21:59
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Die springs

I'm just assuming Nig... I saw pics of Phiippe's mess.. and a day later I
got an email from a Gregory Aldea looking for struts for a renegade spirit
with shipping costs to France. Maybe not even connect.. if not I'm sorry
for

the verbal diarrhoea!

----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Die springs

Thanks Wayne

I didn't know Philippe had contacted you about them. He's had a FUS 5
collapse and is grounded till it's repaired.
He was away in Africa with work last week but he's home again now so I'll
contact him tomorrow to see if he received the details alright.

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 29 April 2009 17:15
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Renegade Spirit Shock Rings

Or Nig.. your friend in France... that emailed me 3 weeks back.. could
have
responded to the email and pics I sent him for die spring struts for it!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Renegade Spirit Shock Rings

Hi Nig !

If the bolts are the same spacing as the Rebel - which I believe
they are .... we've been using stock 9044 rings for years. MUCH
easier than trying to pull that long piece of bungee around !!

These 9044's are stock for Piper products - 9/16" thick, and 4.4"
ID. We use 2 per side, each, front & back, for a total of 8, for
lighter Rebels, and add one more on top of the others for heavier
Rebels - a total of 12. They are available from Aircraft Spruce,
and others - pays to shop, as prices vary widely !

The trick is to put one over the top bolt, inside the penny
washer, then hook a 'come-along', or nylon cargo strap with
a ratchet, to the bottom end. The other end of the strap
goes to the bottom of the gear leg tube. Just ratchet until
the bungee is past the bottom bolt, and use a large screwdriver
to lever it onto the bolt. Top bolt faces rear, bottom bolt front ...

Or .... you can just buy a length of 1/2" bungee & try
to wrestle it around the bolts, tightening after each wrap.
It is difficult & dangerous, and usually loosens after a few
landings, necessitating re-tensioning .... :-(

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.PattersonAeroSales.com

http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Die springs

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:24 pm

Sorry Philippe... communication break down between Nig and myself is all. I
assumed he was talking about a guy in France for the die spring struts for a
Spirit.

I did see pics of your Elite mess though... I've retrieved the Fus-5's out
of Rebels twice now. Not that hard... just not fun. If you need some pics on
the process just let me know and I'll forward them directly to you.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philippe BERJAUD" <philiberj@orange.fr>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Die springs


[quote]Hello Wayne,
Sorry Wayne, I received many pictures from Bob, but I haven't received any
pictures from you. There might have been a problem. I suppose the pictures
were concerning the spring gear ?
Philippe



[quote]Message du 29/04/09 23:01
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Philippe Berjaud

[rebel-builders] Die springs

Post by Philippe Berjaud » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:24 pm

Hello Wayne,
If it doesn't waste your time, I am interested in any pictures you could
forward to me. We'll begin to work on the plane on Monday.
Thanks.
Philippe


Le 30/04/09 22:51,


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