[rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

[Walter Klatt]

Does the Vans spinner have a front bulkhead as well? And does it require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead?

Will the standard propeller bolt kit for the Sensenich prop and spacer fit
with this spinner?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter

No you must cut out the blade openings to many differents blades for one
cut out
Sean

On 10/11/2007 4:39 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> So these are fiberglass spinners? Are the blade cut-outs done?
->
-> Walter
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf
Of
-> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 PM
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
->
-> The vans bulkheads are prepunched for the prop bolts but you need to
put
-> the dome attach scerws in this is easy beause you can see right through
the
-> fiberglass spinner to drill the holes
->
-> Sean
->
->
-> 10/10/2007 5:26 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
->
-> -> Do the Vans spinners come all cut out and holes drilled for prop
bolts?
-> My
-> -> last one I did from scratch with the Murphy kit, and it was a lot of
-> work. I
-> -> was happy with the final result, but like I said, I am getting real
lazy
-> now
-> -> the second time around, and just want to get it back in the air ASAP.
-> ->
-> -> Walter
-> ->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf
-> Of
-> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:24 PM
-> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> ->
-> -> Hi Walter
-> ->
-> -> The Vans airbox for the 360 carb or up draft fuel injection will work.
It
-> -> needs
-> -> a little trim and a bit of glass work but will fit the Murphy cowl
I've
-> done
-> ->
-> -> three of them now and they seem to hang together just fine. I also
use
-> Vans
-> -> tThrottle bracket and spinners they are really nice and are a very
good
-> -> price
-> -> also. I joke that all of the planes that I build have a Van-Murphy
fire
-> wall
-> ->
-> -> forward package
-> ->
-> -> Sean
-> -> On 10/10/2007 4:02 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
-> ->
-> -> -> You mention Van's air filters. Does Van's sell a carb heat box for
the
-> -> 360
-> -> -> that would fit the Murphy cowl and what would the part number
be? I
-> -> have
-> -> -> their catalogue, but couldn't find that item.
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also I am thinking of taking the lazy route and buying Van's
baffles,
-> -> too.
-> -> -> The ones for the RV 6, 7, et al are part number BAF-6-360. Are
these
-> the
-> -> -> right ones?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also, where is the best place to get a good stainless steel exhaust
-> for
-> -> the
-> -> -> 360? I assume it is probably the same as for the 320?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Walter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> Behalf
-> -> Of
-> -> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:20 PM
-> -> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Subject: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> All Elite kits have been delivered with an airbox that fits an 360
-> carb
-> -> but
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> airfilter is to small. I can't remeber the name of the person that
I
-> -> spoke
-> -> -> to at
-> -> -> Bracket but I was told that an 0-360 needs a minimum of 27
square
-> -> inchs of
-> -> -> filter surface. If the supplied airbox is used it will fail in
about
-> 25
-> -> -> hours of
-> -> -> use this is do to the carb heat door vibrating from the engine
trying
-> to
-> -> -> draw
-> -> -> air from the back side of the door. The first Elite I built for Bob
-> Fry
-> -> had
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> standard filter and ran like crap at full power while belching
black
-> -> smoke.
-> -> -> Pulling the filter resulted in almost 200 RPM increase at full
-> throttle.
-> -> I
-> -> -> modified the box for a larger filter (not easy) now I just put Vans
-> air
-> -> -> filters
-> -> -> on and get it over with. Bob's plane is running a 76-56 prop and
-> pulled
-> -> 2460
-> -> -> static at an OAT of about 90 this past summer. Bob cruises at 103
kts.
->
-> at
-> ->
-> -> -> 2480. This is an XP-360 with one Lightspeed. And it is still for
sale
-> -> take
-> -> -> advantage of the Canuck Buck and buy it today
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Sean White
-> -> ->
-> -> ->
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[Gary Gustafson]

The Van's spinner has a front bulkhead and does not require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead. Yes the standard bolt kit
for the Sensenich prop and spacer will fit with this spinner.
Easier to drill holes with Van's spinner as you can see through
the fiberglass and it is trued concentric if back bulkhead is
installed even with the back edge of the spinner.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Walter
Klatt
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:53 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Does the Vans spinner have a front bulkhead as well? And does it require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead?

Will the standard propeller bolt kit for the Sensenich prop and spacer fit
with this spinner?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter

No you must cut out the blade openings to many differents blades for one
cut out
Sean

On 10/11/2007 4:39 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> So these are fiberglass spinners? Are the blade cut-outs done?
->
-> Walter
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf
Of
-> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 PM
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
->
-> The vans bulkheads are prepunched for the prop bolts but you need to
put
-> the dome attach scerws in this is easy beause you can see right through
the
-> fiberglass spinner to drill the holes
->
-> Sean
->
->
-> 10/10/2007 5:26 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
->
-> -> Do the Vans spinners come all cut out and holes drilled for prop
bolts?
-> My
-> -> last one I did from scratch with the Murphy kit, and it was a lot of
-> work. I
-> -> was happy with the final result, but like I said, I am getting real
lazy
-> now
-> -> the second time around, and just want to get it back in the air ASAP.
-> ->
-> -> Walter
-> ->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf
-> Of
-> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:24 PM
-> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> ->
-> -> Hi Walter
-> ->
-> -> The Vans airbox for the 360 carb or up draft fuel injection will work.
It
-> -> needs
-> -> a little trim and a bit of glass work but will fit the Murphy cowl
I've
-> done
-> ->
-> -> three of them now and they seem to hang together just fine. I also
use
-> Vans
-> -> tThrottle bracket and spinners they are really nice and are a very
good
-> -> price
-> -> also. I joke that all of the planes that I build have a Van-Murphy
fire
-> wall
-> ->
-> -> forward package
-> ->
-> -> Sean
-> -> On 10/10/2007 4:02 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
-> ->
-> -> -> You mention Van's air filters. Does Van's sell a carb heat box for
the
-> -> 360
-> -> -> that would fit the Murphy cowl and what would the part number
be? I
-> -> have
-> -> -> their catalogue, but couldn't find that item.
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also I am thinking of taking the lazy route and buying Van's
baffles,
-> -> too.
-> -> -> The ones for the RV 6, 7, et al are part number BAF-6-360. Are
these
-> the
-> -> -> right ones?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also, where is the best place to get a good stainless steel exhaust
-> for
-> -> the
-> -> -> 360? I assume it is probably the same as for the 320?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Walter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> Behalf
-> -> Of
-> -> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:20 PM
-> -> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Subject: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> All Elite kits have been delivered with an airbox that fits an 360
-> carb
-> -> but
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> airfilter is to small. I can't remeber the name of the person that
I
-> -> spoke
-> -> -> to at
-> -> -> Bracket but I was told that an 0-360 needs a minimum of 27
square
-> -> inchs of
-> -> -> filter surface. If the supplied airbox is used it will fail in
about
-> 25
-> -> -> hours of
-> -> -> use this is do to the carb heat door vibrating from the engine
trying
-> to
-> -> -> draw
-> -> -> air from the back side of the door. The first Elite I built for Bob
-> Fry
-> -> had
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> standard filter and ran like crap at full power while belching
black
-> -> smoke.
-> -> -> Pulling the filter resulted in almost 200 RPM increase at full
-> throttle.
-> -> I
-> -> -> modified the box for a larger filter (not easy) now I just put Vans
-> air
-> -> -> filters
-> -> -> on and get it over with. Bob's plane is running a 76-56 prop and
-> pulled
-> -> 2460
-> -> -> static at an OAT of about 90 this past summer. Bob cruises at 103
kts.
->
-> at
-> ->
-> -> -> 2480. This is an XP-360 with one Lightspeed. And it is still for
sale
-> -> take
-> -> -> advantage of the Canuck Buck and buy it today
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Sean White
-> -> ->
-> -> ->
-> -> ->
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[WALTER KLATT]

Thanks, and sounds very good. They are not bad priced either, and same with the airbox. Baffles are a little more, but still worth the effort instead of making my own like I did last time.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Gustafson <gargus@comcast.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:12 am
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

The Van's spinner has a front bulkhead and does not require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead. Yes the standard bolt kit
for the Sensenich prop and spacer will fit with this spinner.
Easier to drill holes with Van's spinner as you can see through
the fiberglass and it is trued concentric if back bulkhead is
installed even with the back edge of the spinner.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of Walter
Klatt
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:53 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Does the Vans spinner have a front bulkhead as well? And does it
require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead?

Will the standard propeller bolt kit for the Sensenich prop and
spacer fit
with this spinner?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter

No you must cut out the blade openings to many differents blades
for one
cut out
Sean

On 10/11/2007 4:39 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> So these are fiberglass spinners? Are the blade cut-outs done?
->
-> Walter
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf
Of
-> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 PM
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
->
-> The vans bulkheads are prepunched for the prop bolts but you
need to
put
-> the dome attach scerws in this is easy beause you can see
right through
the
-> fiberglass spinner to drill the holes
->
-> Sean
->
->
-> 10/10/2007 5:26 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
->
-> -> Do the Vans spinners come all cut out and holes drilled
for prop
bolts?
-> My
-> -> last one I did from scratch with the Murphy kit, and it
was a lot of
-> work. I
-> -> was happy with the final result, but like I said, I am
getting real
lazy
-> now
-> -> the second time around, and just want to get it back in
the air ASAP.
-> ->
-> -> Walter
-> ->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
On
Behalf
-> Of
-> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:24 PM
-> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> ->
-> -> Hi Walter
-> ->
-> -> The Vans airbox for the 360 carb or up draft fuel
injection will work.
It
-> -> needs
-> -> a little trim and a bit of glass work but will fit the
Murphy cowl
I've
-> done
-> ->
-> -> three of them now and they seem to hang together just
fine. I also
use
-> Vans
-> -> tThrottle bracket and spinners they are really nice and
are a very
good
-> -> price
-> -> also. I joke that all of the planes that I build have a
Van-Murphy
fire
-> wall
-> ->
-> -> forward package
-> ->
-> -> Sean
-> -> On 10/10/2007 4:02 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-
builders:-> ->
-> -> -> You mention Van's air filters. Does Van's sell a carb
heat box for
the
-> -> 360
-> -> -> that would fit the Murphy cowl and what would the part
number
be? I
-> -> have
-> -> -> their catalogue, but couldn't find that item.
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also I am thinking of taking the lazy route and buying
Van's
baffles,
-> -> too.
-> -> -> The ones for the RV 6, 7, et al are part number BAF-6-
360. Are
these
-> the
-> -> -> right ones?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also, where is the best place to get a good stainless
steel exhaust
-> for
-> -> the
-> -> -> 360? I assume it is probably the same as for the 320?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Walter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> Behalf
-> -> Of
-> -> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:20 PM
-> -> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Subject: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> All Elite kits have been delivered with an airbox that
fits an 360
-> carb
-> -> but
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> airfilter is to small. I can't remeber the name of the
person that
I
-> -> spoke
-> -> -> to at
-> -> -> Bracket but I was told that an 0-360 needs a minimum of
27
square
-> -> inchs of
-> -> -> filter surface. If the supplied airbox is used it will
fail in
about
-> 25
-> -> -> hours of
-> -> -> use this is do to the carb heat door vibrating from the
enginetrying
-> to
-> -> -> draw
-> -> -> air from the back side of the door. The first Elite I
built for Bob
-> Fry
-> -> had
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> standard filter and ran like crap at full power while
belchingblack
-> -> smoke.
-> -> -> Pulling the filter resulted in almost 200 RPM increase
at full
-> throttle.
-> -> I
-> -> -> modified the box for a larger filter (not easy) now I
just put Vans
-> air
-> -> -> filters
-> -> -> on and get it over with. Bob's plane is running a 76-56
prop and
-> pulled
-> -> 2460
-> -> -> static at an OAT of about 90 this past summer. Bob
cruises at 103
kts.
->
-> at
-> ->
-> -> -> 2480. This is an XP-360 with one Lightspeed. And it is
still for
sale
-> -> take
-> -> -> advantage of the Canuck Buck and buy it today
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Sean White
-> -> ->
-> -> ->
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[Walter Klatt]

Just another question on the spinner. I notice the standard Sensenich prop
for the Van's 360 engine is the 72FM series. This one has a prop thickness
of 3.437 inches while the 76EM series which is what is needed for my plane
has a thickness of 3.56. Since the spinner has a front bulkhead, how do you
adjust for the extra size of the 76EM prop?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of WALTER
KLATT
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:12 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Thanks, and sounds very good. They are not bad priced either, and same with
the airbox. Baffles are a little more, but still worth the effort instead of
making my own like I did last time.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Gustafson <gargus@comcast.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:12 am
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

The Van's spinner has a front bulkhead and does not require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead. Yes the standard bolt kit
for the Sensenich prop and spacer will fit with this spinner.
Easier to drill holes with Van's spinner as you can see through
the fiberglass and it is trued concentric if back bulkhead is
installed even with the back edge of the spinner.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of Walter
Klatt
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:53 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Does the Vans spinner have a front bulkhead as well? And does it
require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead?

Will the standard propeller bolt kit for the Sensenich prop and
spacer fit
with this spinner?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter

No you must cut out the blade openings to many differents blades
for one
cut out
Sean

On 10/11/2007 4:39 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> So these are fiberglass spinners? Are the blade cut-outs done?
->
-> Walter
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf
Of
-> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 PM
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
->
-> The vans bulkheads are prepunched for the prop bolts but you
need to
put
-> the dome attach scerws in this is easy beause you can see
right through
the
-> fiberglass spinner to drill the holes
->
-> Sean
->
->
-> 10/10/2007 5:26 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
->
-> -> Do the Vans spinners come all cut out and holes drilled
for prop
bolts?
-> My
-> -> last one I did from scratch with the Murphy kit, and it
was a lot of
-> work. I
-> -> was happy with the final result, but like I said, I am
getting real
lazy
-> now
-> -> the second time around, and just want to get it back in
the air ASAP.
-> ->
-> -> Walter
-> ->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
On
Behalf
-> Of
-> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:24 PM
-> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> ->
-> -> Hi Walter
-> ->
-> -> The Vans airbox for the 360 carb or up draft fuel
injection will work.
It
-> -> needs
-> -> a little trim and a bit of glass work but will fit the
Murphy cowl
I've
-> done
-> ->
-> -> three of them now and they seem to hang together just
fine. I also
use
-> Vans
-> -> tThrottle bracket and spinners they are really nice and
are a very
good
-> -> price
-> -> also. I joke that all of the planes that I build have a
Van-Murphy
fire
-> wall
-> ->
-> -> forward package
-> ->
-> -> Sean
-> -> On 10/10/2007 4:02 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-
builders:-> ->
-> -> -> You mention Van's air filters. Does Van's sell a carb
heat box for
the
-> -> 360
-> -> -> that would fit the Murphy cowl and what would the part
number
be? I
-> -> have
-> -> -> their catalogue, but couldn't find that item.
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also I am thinking of taking the lazy route and buying
Van's
baffles,
-> -> too.
-> -> -> The ones for the RV 6, 7, et al are part number BAF-6-
360. Are
these
-> the
-> -> -> right ones?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also, where is the best place to get a good stainless
steel exhaust
-> for
-> -> the
-> -> -> 360? I assume it is probably the same as for the 320?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Walter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> Behalf
-> -> Of
-> -> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:20 PM
-> -> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Subject: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> All Elite kits have been delivered with an airbox that
fits an 360
-> carb
-> -> but
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> airfilter is to small. I can't remeber the name of the
person that
I
-> -> spoke
-> -> -> to at
-> -> -> Bracket but I was told that an 0-360 needs a minimum of
27
square
-> -> inchs of
-> -> -> filter surface. If the supplied airbox is used it will
fail in
about
-> 25
-> -> -> hours of
-> -> -> use this is do to the carb heat door vibrating from the
enginetrying
-> to
-> -> -> draw
-> -> -> air from the back side of the door. The first Elite I
built for Bob
-> Fry
-> -> had
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> standard filter and ran like crap at full power while
belchingblack
-> -> smoke.
-> -> -> Pulling the filter resulted in almost 200 RPM increase
at full
-> throttle.
-> -> I
-> -> -> modified the box for a larger filter (not easy) now I
just put Vans
-> air
-> -> -> filters
-> -> -> on and get it over with. Bob's plane is running a 76-56
prop and
-> pulled
-> -> 2460
-> -> -> static at an OAT of about 90 this past summer. Bob
cruises at 103
kts.
->
-> at
-> ->
-> -> -> 2480. This is an XP-360 with one Lightspeed. And it is
still for
sale
-> -> take
-> -> -> advantage of the Canuck Buck and buy it today
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Sean White
-> -> ->
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[rebflyer]

Hi Walter,
? I was talking to Seth last night (feel free to chime in Seth)
and he has ordered a Catto 2 blade. Much shorter delivery time than the 3 blade and still the same great light prop.
? Just another choice <grin>
??????? Curt N97MR

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 3:14 pm
Subject: RE: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner



Just another question on the spinner. I notice the standard Sensenich prop
for the Van's 360 engine is the 72FM series. This one has a prop thickness
of 3.437 inches while the 76EM series which is what is needed for my plane
has a thickness of 3.56. Since the spinner has a front bulkhead, how do you
adjust for the extra size of the 76EM prop?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of WALTER
KLATT
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:12 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Thanks, and sounds very good. They are not bad priced either, and same with
the airbox. Baffles are a little more, but still worth the effort instead of
making my own like I did last time.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Gustafson <gargus@comcast.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:12 am
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

The Van's spinner has a front bulkhead and does not require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead. Yes the standard bolt kit
for the Sensenich prop and spacer will fit with this spinner.
Easier to drill holes with Van's spinner as you can see through
the fiberglass and it is trued concentric if back bulkhead is
installed even with the back edge of the spinner.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of Walter
Klatt
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:53 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Does the Vans spinner have a front bulkhead as well? And does it
require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead?

Will the standard propeller bolt kit for the Sensenich prop and
spacer fit
with this spinner?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter

No you must cut out the blade openings to many differents blades
for one
cut out
Sean

On 10/11/2007 4:39 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> So these are fiberglass spinners? Are the blade cut-outs done?
->
-> Walter
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf
Of
-> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 PM
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
->
-> The vans bulkheads are prepunched for the prop bolts but you
need to
put
-> the dome attach scerws in this is easy beause you can see
right through
the
-> fiberglass spinner to drill the holes
->
-> Sean
->
->
-> 10/10/2007 5:26 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
->
-> -> Do the Vans spinners come all cut out and holes drilled
for prop
bolts?
-> My
-> -> last one I did from scratch with the Murphy kit, and it
was a lot of
-> work. I
-> -> was happy with the final result, but like I said, I am
getting real
lazy
-> now
-> -> the second time around, and just want to get it back in
the air ASAP.
-> ->
-> -> Walter
-> ->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
On
Behalf
-> Of
-> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:24 PM
-> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> ->
-> -> Hi Walter
-> ->
-> -> The Vans airbox for the 360 carb or up draft fuel
injection will work.
It
-> -> needs
-> -> a little trim and a bit of glass work but will fit the
Murphy cowl
I've
-> done
-> ->
-> -> three of them now and they seem to hang together just
fine. I also
use
-> Vans
-> -> tThrottle bracket and spinners they are really nice and
are a very
good
-> -> price
-> -> also. I joke that all of the planes that I build have a
Van-Murphy
fire
-> wall
-> ->
-> -> forward package
-> ->
-> -> Sean
-> -> On 10/10/2007 4:02 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-
builders:-> ->
-> -> -> You mention Van's air filters. Does Van's sell a carb
heat box for
the
-> -> 360
-> -> -> that would fit the Murphy cowl and what would the part
number
be? I
-> -> have
-> -> -> their catalogue, but couldn't find that item.
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also I am thinking of taking the lazy route and buying
Van's
baffles,
-> -> too.
-> -> -> The ones for the RV 6, 7, et al are part number BAF-6-
360. Are
these
-> the
-> -> -> right ones?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also, where is the best place to get a good stainless
steel exhaust
-> for
-> -> the
-> -> -> 360? I assume it is probably the same as for the 320?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Walter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> Behalf
-> -> Of
-> -> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:20 PM
-> -> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Subject: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> All Elite kits have been delivered with an airbox that
fits an 360
-> carb
-> -> but
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> airfilter is to small. I can't remeber the name of the
person that
I
-> -> spoke
-> -> -> to at
-> -> -> Bracket but I was told that an 0-360 needs a minimum of
27
square
-> -> inchs of
-> -> -> filter surface. If the supplied airbox is used it will
fail in
about
-> 25
-> -> -> hours of
-> -> -> use this is do to the carb heat door vibrating from the
enginetrying
-> to
-> -> -> draw
-> -> -> air from the back side of the door. The first Elite I
built for Bob
-> Fry
-> -> had
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> standard filter and ran like crap at full power while
belchingblack
-> -> smoke.
-> -> -> Pulling the filter resulted in almost 200 RPM increase
at full
-> throttle.
-> -> I
-> -> -> modified the box for a larger filter (not easy) now I
just put Vans
-> air
-> -> -> filters
-> -> -> on and get it over with. Bob's plane is running a 76-56
prop and
-> pulled
-> -> 2460
-> -> -> static at an OAT of about 90 this past summer. Bob
cruises at 103
kts.
->
-> at
-> ->
-> -> -> 2480. This is an XP-360 with one Lightspeed. And it is
still for
sale
-> -> take
-> -> -> advantage of the Canuck Buck and buy it today
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Sean White
-> -> ->
-> -> ->
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[Walter Klatt]

Hi, Curt, yes, I checked them out on the website, and looked through some of
the Vans forums. Seems they are quite popular on RVs. I also heard about the
long order times. While it sounds like a good prop, I decided to stay with
what I know best now (Sensenich). I don't like the weight, but figure with
my new engine, my total net weight increase should not be more than about 10
pounds. I can handle that. Price is good, too, on the Sensenich.

Can't remember, Curt, if you had any side by side comparisons with any other
float Rebels (that use other props) with your Catto, and those numbers would
be interesting to hear.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
rebflyer@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:27 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Hi Walter,
? I was talking to Seth last night (feel free to chime in Seth)
and he has ordered a Catto 2 blade. Much shorter delivery time than the 3
blade and still the same great light prop.
? Just another choice <grin>
??????? Curt N97MR

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 3:14 pm
Subject: RE: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner



Just another question on the spinner. I notice the standard Sensenich prop
for the Van's 360 engine is the 72FM series. This one has a prop thickness
of 3.437 inches while the 76EM series which is what is needed for my plane
has a thickness of 3.56. Since the spinner has a front bulkhead, how do you
adjust for the extra size of the 76EM prop?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of WALTER
KLATT
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:12 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Thanks, and sounds very good. They are not bad priced either, and same with
the airbox. Baffles are a little more, but still worth the effort instead of
making my own like I did last time.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Gustafson <gargus@comcast.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:12 am
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

The Van's spinner has a front bulkhead and does not require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead. Yes the standard bolt kit
for the Sensenich prop and spacer will fit with this spinner.
Easier to drill holes with Van's spinner as you can see through
the fiberglass and it is trued concentric if back bulkhead is
installed even with the back edge of the spinner.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of Walter
Klatt
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:53 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Does the Vans spinner have a front bulkhead as well? And does it
require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead?

Will the standard propeller bolt kit for the Sensenich prop and
spacer fit
with this spinner?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter

No you must cut out the blade openings to many differents blades
for one
cut out
Sean

On 10/11/2007 4:39 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> So these are fiberglass spinners? Are the blade cut-outs done?
->
-> Walter
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf
Of
-> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 PM
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
->
-> The vans bulkheads are prepunched for the prop bolts but you
need to
put
-> the dome attach scerws in this is easy beause you can see
right through
the
-> fiberglass spinner to drill the holes
->
-> Sean
->
->
-> 10/10/2007 5:26 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
->
-> -> Do the Vans spinners come all cut out and holes drilled
for prop
bolts?
-> My
-> -> last one I did from scratch with the Murphy kit, and it
was a lot of
-> work. I
-> -> was happy with the final result, but like I said, I am
getting real
lazy
-> now
-> -> the second time around, and just want to get it back in
the air ASAP.
-> ->
-> -> Walter
-> ->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
On
Behalf
-> Of
-> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:24 PM
-> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> ->
-> -> Hi Walter
-> ->
-> -> The Vans airbox for the 360 carb or up draft fuel
injection will work.
It
-> -> needs
-> -> a little trim and a bit of glass work but will fit the
Murphy cowl
I've
-> done
-> ->
-> -> three of them now and they seem to hang together just
fine. I also
use
-> Vans
-> -> tThrottle bracket and spinners they are really nice and
are a very
good
-> -> price
-> -> also. I joke that all of the planes that I build have a
Van-Murphy
fire
-> wall
-> ->
-> -> forward package
-> ->
-> -> Sean
-> -> On 10/10/2007 4:02 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-
builders:-> ->
-> -> -> You mention Van's air filters. Does Van's sell a carb
heat box for
the
-> -> 360
-> -> -> that would fit the Murphy cowl and what would the part
number
be? I
-> -> have
-> -> -> their catalogue, but couldn't find that item.
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also I am thinking of taking the lazy route and buying
Van's
baffles,
-> -> too.
-> -> -> The ones for the RV 6, 7, et al are part number BAF-6-
360. Are
these
-> the
-> -> -> right ones?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also, where is the best place to get a good stainless
steel exhaust
-> for
-> -> the
-> -> -> 360? I assume it is probably the same as for the 320?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Walter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> Behalf
-> -> Of
-> -> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:20 PM
-> -> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Subject: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> All Elite kits have been delivered with an airbox that
fits an 360
-> carb
-> -> but
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> airfilter is to small. I can't remeber the name of the
person that
I
-> -> spoke
-> -> -> to at
-> -> -> Bracket but I was told that an 0-360 needs a minimum of
27
square
-> -> inchs of
-> -> -> filter surface. If the supplied airbox is used it will
fail in
about
-> 25
-> -> -> hours of
-> -> -> use this is do to the carb heat door vibrating from the
enginetrying
-> to
-> -> -> draw
-> -> -> air from the back side of the door. The first Elite I
built for Bob
-> Fry
-> -> had
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> standard filter and ran like crap at full power while
belchingblack
-> -> smoke.
-> -> -> Pulling the filter resulted in almost 200 RPM increase
at full
-> throttle.
-> -> I
-> -> -> modified the box for a larger filter (not easy) now I
just put Vans
-> air
-> -> -> filters
-> -> -> on and get it over with. Bob's plane is running a 76-56
prop and
-> pulled
-> -> 2460
-> -> -> static at an OAT of about 90 this past summer. Bob
cruises at 103
kts.
->
-> at
-> ->
-> -> -> 2480. This is an XP-360 with one Lightspeed. And it is
still for
sale
-> -> take
-> -> -> advantage of the Canuck Buck and buy it today
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Sean White
-> -> ->
-> -> ->
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[rebflyer]

Hi Walter,

? Yes I've done a little side by side with another 150hp Rebel running a 2 blade Prince. He's heavier (and so is his airplane <grin>)?so we've never really done any true tests trying to get apples to apples.?Airplane is?100lbs heavier empty. big battery and other stuff, and he's about 260lbs.
? The little that we have done I'm quicker off the water for sure, but there is that weight thing. We seem to run very close at cruise, both around 105mph @ 2500 rpm and 2500msl, and 65deg.?I haven't done a WOT with him though. At the same altitudes and temps I indicate 118mph @ 2750 wot.
?If I can before it gets to cold I'll try and do a time to 9500 for you.?
???Curt N97MR?


-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:21 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner




Hi, Curt, yes, I checked them out on the website, and looked through some of
the Vans forums. Seems they are quite popular on RVs. I also heard about the
long order times. While it sounds like a good prop, I decided to stay with
what I know best now (Sensenich). I don't like the weight, but figure with
my new engine, my total net weight increase should not be more than about 10
pounds. I can handle that. Price is good, too, on the Sensenich.

Can't remember, Curt, if you had any side by side comparisons with any other
float Rebels (that use other props) with your Catto, and those numbers would
be interesting to hear.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
rebflyer@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:27 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Hi Walter,
? I was talking to Seth last night (feel free to chime in Seth)
and he has ordered a Catto 2 blade. Much shorter delivery time than the 3
blade and still the same great light prop.
? Just another choice <grin>
??????? Curt N97MR

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 3:14 pm
Subject: RE: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner



Just another question on the spinner. I notice the standard Sensenich prop
for the Van's 360 engine is the 72FM series. This one has a prop thickness
of 3.437 inches while the 76EM series which is what is needed for my plane
has a thickness of 3.56. Since the spinner has a front bulkhead, how do you
adjust for the extra size of the 76EM prop?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of WALTER
KLATT
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:12 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Thanks, and sounds very good. They are not bad priced either, and same with
the airbox. Baffles are a little more, but still worth the effort instead of
making my own like I did last time.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Gustafson <gargus@comcast.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:12 am
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

The Van's spinner has a front bulkhead and does not require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead. Yes the standard bolt kit
for the Sensenich prop and spacer will fit with this spinner.
Easier to drill holes with Van's spinner as you can see through
the fiberglass and it is trued concentric if back bulkhead is
installed even with the back edge of the spinner.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of Walter
Klatt
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:53 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter - Vans Spinner

Does the Vans spinner have a front bulkhead as well? And does it
require a
crush plate for the front bulkhead?

Will the standard propeller bolt kit for the Sensenich prop and
spacer fit
with this spinner?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf Of
kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter

No you must cut out the blade openings to many differents blades
for one
cut out
Sean

On 10/11/2007 4:39 AM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> So these are fiberglass spinners? Are the blade cut-outs done?
->
-> Walter
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
Behalf
Of
-> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:35 PM
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
->
-> The vans bulkheads are prepunched for the prop bolts but you
need to
put
-> the dome attach scerws in this is easy beause you can see
right through
the
-> fiberglass spinner to drill the holes
->
-> Sean
->
->
-> 10/10/2007 5:26 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
->
-> -> Do the Vans spinners come all cut out and holes drilled
for prop
bolts?
-> My
-> -> last one I did from scratch with the Murphy kit, and it
was a lot of
-> work. I
-> -> was happy with the final result, but like I said, I am
getting real
lazy
-> now
-> -> the second time around, and just want to get it back in
the air ASAP.
-> ->
-> -> Walter
-> ->
-> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
On
Behalf
-> Of
-> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:24 PM
-> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> ->
-> -> Hi Walter
-> ->
-> -> The Vans airbox for the 360 carb or up draft fuel
injection will work.
It
-> -> needs
-> -> a little trim and a bit of glass work but will fit the
Murphy cowl
I've
-> done
-> ->
-> -> three of them now and they seem to hang together just
fine. I also
use
-> Vans
-> -> tThrottle bracket and spinners they are really nice and
are a very
good
-> -> price
-> -> also. I joke that all of the planes that I build have a
Van-Murphy
fire
-> wall
-> ->
-> -> forward package
-> ->
-> -> Sean
-> -> On 10/10/2007 4:02 PM, walter.klatt@shaw.ca wrote to rebel-
builders:-> ->
-> -> -> You mention Van's air filters. Does Van's sell a carb
heat box for
the
-> -> 360
-> -> -> that would fit the Murphy cowl and what would the part
number
be? I
-> -> have
-> -> -> their catalogue, but couldn't find that item.
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also I am thinking of taking the lazy route and buying
Van's
baffles,
-> -> too.
-> -> -> The ones for the RV 6, 7, et al are part number BAF-6-
360. Are
these
-> the
-> -> -> right ones?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Also, where is the best place to get a good stainless
steel exhaust
-> for
-> -> the
-> -> -> 360? I assume it is probably the same as for the 320?
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Walter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> -----Original Message-----
-> -> -> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On
-> Behalf
-> -> Of
-> -> -> kitplane_solutions@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:20 PM
-> -> -> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> -> -> Subject: [rebel-builders] EliteProp&airfilter
-> -> ->
-> -> -> All Elite kits have been delivered with an airbox that
fits an 360
-> carb
-> -> but
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> airfilter is to small. I can't remeber the name of the
person that
I
-> -> spoke
-> -> -> to at
-> -> -> Bracket but I was told that an 0-360 needs a minimum of
27
square
-> -> inchs of
-> -> -> filter surface. If the supplied airbox is used it will
fail in
about
-> 25
-> -> -> hours of
-> -> -> use this is do to the carb heat door vibrating from the
enginetrying
-> to
-> -> -> draw
-> -> -> air from the back side of the door. The first Elite I
built for Bob
-> Fry
-> -> had
-> -> -> the
-> -> -> standard filter and ran like crap at full power while
belchingblack
-> -> smoke.
-> -> -> Pulling the filter resulted in almost 200 RPM increase
at full
-> throttle.
-> -> I
-> -> -> modified the box for a larger filter (not easy) now I
just put Vans
-> air
-> -> -> filters
-> -> -> on and get it over with. Bob's plane is running a 76-56
prop and
-> pulled
-> -> 2460
-> -> -> static at an OAT of about 90 this past summer. Bob
cruises at 103
kts.
->
-> at
-> ->
-> -> -> 2480. This is an XP-360 with one Lightspeed. And it is
still for
sale
-> -> take
-> -> -> advantage of the Canuck Buck and buy it today
-> -> ->
-> -> -> Sean White
-> -> ->
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