[rebel-builders] It flies.........

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Dang...what a goofy smile on your face Mike ! LOL

Glad all went well !! CONGATS!

The vibration may even be the exhaust system noise at full throttle, but if
it is the prop....many a vibration has been solved by simply rotating it 180
degrees. I'm also assuming that when you shut down it indexes properly and
stops in the "hand swing" postion.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was the
first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week
looks bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went
well. Outside temp at 35 F.

Climb out was around 2450, oil temp made 155, EGT 1400, CHT
highest seen was 375. Air speed indicator looks good.
I notice at full throttle the engine has some vibration, but at 2400 it is
smooth as glass. I think it is a rotation problem up front related to
balance and not an engine running condition.

2 problems, it flies out of trim right wing heavy. Almost looks like the
left aileron is drooped slightly when the other side is neutral, at least
it looks that way in flight, but it looks that way on the ground too, not
sure if that adjustment will correct this or not. Maybe droop a flap?

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent
bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to
change something and try again.

Also planning on cutting the oil filter to make sure all is well before
going up again too.

Thanks for all the support this group gave me for 2 years. Hope I can help
someone else in the future.

Mike Betti



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[Mike Betti]

Wayne,
You may have something there. The prop stops on a 45 degree angle. I was
shooting for parallel with the ground but hit it wrong I guess.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Dang...what a goofy smile on your face Mike ! LOL

Glad all went well !! CONGATS!

The vibration may even be the exhaust system noise at full throttle, but
if
it is the prop....many a vibration has been solved by simply rotating it
180
degrees. I'm also assuming that when you shut down it indexes properly and
stops in the "hand swing" postion.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was
the
first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week
looks bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went
well. Outside temp at 35 F.

Climb out was around 2450, oil temp made 155, EGT 1400, CHT
highest seen was 375. Air speed indicator looks good.
I notice at full throttle the engine has some vibration, but at 2400 it
is
smooth as glass. I think it is a rotation problem up front related to
balance and not an engine running condition.

2 problems, it flies out of trim right wing heavy. Almost looks like the
left aileron is drooped slightly when the other side is neutral, at least
it looks that way in flight, but it looks that way on the ground too, not
sure if that adjustment will correct this or not. Maybe droop a flap?

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent
bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to
change something and try again.

Also planning on cutting the oil filter to make sure all is well before
going up again too.

Thanks for all the support this group gave me for 2 years. Hope I can
help
someone else in the future.

Mike Betti



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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

No sounds like you have it right..it should stop with a blade at 10 o'clock
when looking at it from the front. Check your tracking, fly it some more to
get a handle on the noise/vib and then try switching it 180 Degrees and see
what happens.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Wayne,
You may have something there. The prop stops on a 45 degree angle. I was
shooting for parallel with the ground but hit it wrong I guess.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Dang...what a goofy smile on your face Mike ! LOL

Glad all went well !! CONGATS!

The vibration may even be the exhaust system noise at full throttle, but
if
it is the prop....many a vibration has been solved by simply rotating it
180
degrees. I'm also assuming that when you shut down it indexes properly
and
stops in the "hand swing" postion.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was
the
first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week
looks bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went
well. Outside temp at 35 F.

Climb out was around 2450, oil temp made 155, EGT 1400, CHT
highest seen was 375. Air speed indicator looks good.
I notice at full throttle the engine has some vibration, but at 2400 it
is
smooth as glass. I think it is a rotation problem up front related to
balance and not an engine running condition.

2 problems, it flies out of trim right wing heavy. Almost looks like the
left aileron is drooped slightly when the other side is neutral, at
least
it looks that way in flight, but it looks that way on the ground too,
not
sure if that adjustment will correct this or not. Maybe droop a flap?

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent
bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to
change something and try again.

Also planning on cutting the oil filter to make sure all is well before
going up again too.

Thanks for all the support this group gave me for 2 years. Hope I can
help
someone else in the future.

Mike Betti



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[Rich Dodson]

Congratulations Mike! A great day I am sure!
Rich
Rebel 806

----- Original Message ----
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To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01:48 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........


Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was the first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week looks bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went well. Outside temp at 35 F.



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[Brad Hewlett]

Congratulations Mike,

Must feel great............. Looking forward to that day.

Brad. (R195)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:01 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was the
first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week
looks bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went
well. Outside temp at 35 F.

Climb out was around 2450, oil temp made 155, EGT 1400, CHT
highest seen was 375. Air speed indicator looks good.
I notice at full throttle the engine has some vibration, but at 2400 it is
smooth as glass. I think it is a rotation problem up front related to
balance and not an engine running condition.

2 problems, it flies out of trim right wing heavy. Almost looks like the
left aileron is drooped slightly when the other side is neutral, at least
it looks that way in flight, but it looks that way on the ground too, not
sure if that adjustment will correct this or not. Maybe droop a flap?

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent
bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to
change something and try again.

Also planning on cutting the oil filter to make sure all is well before
going up again too.

Thanks for all the support this group gave me for 2 years. Hope I can help
someone else in the future.

Mike Betti



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[Walter Klatt]

Congrats Mike. A big step, and glad to hear it went well. The Rebel controls
are different, so this may not apply. However, I do know that with mine, at
the neutral flaperon setting, one wing is slightly heavy, but when I go into
reflex, it is in perfect balance for hands off flying, so I never did bother
adjusting anything. Also, I have my fin offset 3/4 inch which might have
some effect. But I have no trim tabs on any control surfaces on mine.

Enjoy, and good luck with the fine tuning.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
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Betti
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:02 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was the
first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week looks
bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went well.
Outside temp at 35 F.

Climb out was around 2450, oil temp made 155, EGT 1400, CHT
highest seen was 375. Air speed indicator looks good.
I notice at full throttle the engine has some vibration, but at 2400 it is
smooth as glass. I think it is a rotation problem up front related to
balance and not an engine running condition.

2 problems, it flies out of trim right wing heavy. Almost looks like the
left aileron is drooped slightly when the other side is neutral, at least it
looks that way in flight, but it looks that way on the ground too, not sure
if that adjustment will correct this or not. Maybe droop a flap?

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent
bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to
change something and try again.

Also planning on cutting the oil filter to make sure all is well before
going up again too.

Thanks for all the support this group gave me for 2 years. Hope I can help
someone else in the future.

Mike Betti



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[NormIsler]

Mike-

Congrats on the first flight!

I'm sure the details will be worked out in short order.

Two years box to built! That's a fabulous achievement!

Norm Isler
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[Robert Johnson]

Congrats Mike: I still smile when I think of my 1st Rebel flight 7 or 8
years ago. I am really looking forward to the one I am working on now. I do
not know how the Elite is set up for the flap lever, but if it is similar to
the Rebel, I have a simple lever design for you. Bob J Rebel 192/731

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:01 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent

bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to
change something and try again.
Mike Betti

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[Mike Betti]

Wayne,
It's actually at 1:30.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

No sounds like you have it right..it should stop with a blade at 10
o'clock
when looking at it from the front. Check your tracking, fly it some more
to
get a handle on the noise/vib and then try switching it 180 Degrees and
see
what happens.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Wayne,
You may have something there. The prop stops on a 45 degree angle. I was
shooting for parallel with the ground but hit it wrong I guess.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Dang...what a goofy smile on your face Mike ! LOL

Glad all went well !! CONGATS!

The vibration may even be the exhaust system noise at full throttle, but
if
it is the prop....many a vibration has been solved by simply rotating it
180
degrees. I'm also assuming that when you shut down it indexes properly
and
stops in the "hand swing" postion.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:01 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........




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[Mike Betti]

I may take you up on it later, need to look it over some more.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Congrats Mike: I still smile when I think of my 1st Rebel flight 7 or 8
years ago. I am really looking forward to the one I am working on now. I
do
not know how the Elite is set up for the flap lever, but if it is similar
to
the Rebel, I have a simple lever design for you. Bob J Rebel 192/731

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:01 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent

bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to
change something and try again.
Mike Betti

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[Dave Ricker]

Good job Mike, congratulations!

Like Ralph said we (not so fast....) Eliteists will be keeping an eye on your progress so that we'll know what to expect when we get there. Keep the reports coming but take it one step at a time, no pressure......and enjoy it!

Cheers,

Dave R.
Francine D.

Elite 583

Mike Betti wrote:

Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was the first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week looks bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went well. Outside temp at 35 F.

Climb out was around 2450, oil temp made 155, EGT 1400, CHT
highest seen was 375. Air speed indicator looks good.
I notice at full throttle the engine has some vibration, but at 2400 it is smooth as glass. I think it is a rotation problem up front related to balance and not an engine running condition.

2 problems, it flies out of trim right wing heavy. Almost looks like the left aileron is drooped slightly when the other side is neutral, at least it looks that way in flight, but it looks that way on the ground too, not sure if that adjustment will correct this or not. Maybe droop a flap?

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to change something and try again.

Also planning on cutting the oil filter to make sure all is well before going up again too.

Thanks for all the support this group gave me for 2 years. Hope I can help someone else in the future.

Mike Betti

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Sounds like you need to back it up two holes. I've sent you a picture of how
it should sit/look after MOST shutdowns. Sometimes they stop somewhere
else..but 99% of the time this is it.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Wayne,
It's actually at 1:30.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

No sounds like you have it right..it should stop with a blade at 10
o'clock
when looking at it from the front. Check your tracking, fly it some more
to
get a handle on the noise/vib and then try switching it 180 Degrees and
see
what happens.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Wayne,
You may have something there. The prop stops on a 45 degree angle. I was
shooting for parallel with the ground but hit it wrong I guess.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:13 PM
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[Ron Shannon]

Wahoo! Way to go Mike! An inspiration to all of us.


Mike Betti wrote:

Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was the first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week looks bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went well. Outside temp at 35 F.

Climb out was around 2450, oil temp made 155, EGT 1400, CHT
highest seen was 375. Air speed indicator looks good.
I notice at full throttle the engine has some vibration, but at 2400 it is smooth as glass. I think it is a rotation problem up front related to balance and not an engine running condition.

2 problems, it flies out of trim right wing heavy. Almost looks like the left aileron is drooped slightly when the other side is neutral, at least it looks that way in flight, but it looks that way on the ground too, not sure if that adjustment will correct this or not. Maybe droop a flap?

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to change something and try again.

Also planning on cutting the oil filter to make sure all is well before going up again too.

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[Mike Betti]

Got it Wayne.
Thanks,
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Sounds like you need to back it up two holes. I've sent you a picture of
how
it should sit/look after MOST shutdowns. Sometimes they stop somewhere
else..but 99% of the time this is it.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Wayne,
It's actually at 1:30.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

No sounds like you have it right..it should stop with a blade at 10
o'clock
when looking at it from the front. Check your tracking, fly it some more
to
get a handle on the noise/vib and then try switching it 180 Degrees and
see
what happens.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] It flies.........




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[Tim Hickey]

Congratulations!

Glad it went well!

Tim Hickey
2658 300th St
Montrose, Iowa 52639
Home 319 463-7047
Cell 319 795-2684


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@hughes.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:01 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] It flies.........

Well everyone, N771ME Elite flew today for the maiden voyage. This was the
first opportunity with out wind to make a flight. The rest of the week
looks bad, but have some adjustments to make in the mean time. All went
well. Outside temp at 35 F.

Climb out was around 2450, oil temp made 155, EGT 1400, CHT
highest seen was 375. Air speed indicator looks good.
I notice at full throttle the engine has some vibration, but at 2400 it is
smooth as glass. I think it is a rotation problem up front related to
balance and not an engine running condition.

2 problems, it flies out of trim right wing heavy. Almost looks like the
left aileron is drooped slightly when the other side is neutral, at least
it looks that way in flight, but it looks that way on the ground too, not
sure if that adjustment will correct this or not. Maybe droop a flap?

Second problem is flap lever won't hold detent. It looks like the detent
bolt isn't going to the bottom of the notch far enough. Going to have to
change something and try again.

Also planning on cutting the oil filter to make sure all is well before
going up again too.

Thanks for all the support this group gave me for 2 years. Hope I can help
someone else in the future.

Mike Betti



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