Moose operating costs

[Ted Waltman]

For what it's worth, I keep meticulous records for every imaginable
expense related to my Murphy Moose. Thus far I have a total of 220.6
hours on the Moose with operating costs running $115.55 (US) per hour.

Ted




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[Bill Delcambre]

Hmmm. I've always made it a point to keep no records at all, that could
possibly be interpreted as operating costs, for any aircraft that I've
owned. I just keep telling folks that it's not nearly as bad as it's made
out to be.

Further, to be honest, I'm surprised that Ted's number isn't higher. Are
you burning Mogas or Avgas, Ted?

Bill


On 2/5/06, Ted Waltman <tedwaltman@i1ci.com> wrote:

For what it's worth, I keep meticulous records for every imaginable
expense related to my Murphy Moose. Thus far I have a total of 220.6
hours on the Moose with operating costs running $115.55 (US) per hour.

Ted




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[Ted Waltman]

Av gas. I push it to the runway by hand to keep the gas costs down.
<grin>. I also fly from an airport that probably has some of the least
expensive gas in the country on any given day. Some days there are 6 or
8 planes lined up to get fuel that fly in from other nearby airports.

-----Original Message-----
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Bill Delcambre
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Moose operating costs


Hmmm. I've always made it a point to keep no records at all, that could
possibly be interpreted as operating costs, for any aircraft that I've
owned. I just keep telling folks that it's not nearly as bad as it's
made out to be.

Further, to be honest, I'm surprised that Ted's number isn't higher.
Are you burning Mogas or Avgas, Ted?

Bill


On 2/5/06, Ted Waltman <tedwaltman@i1ci.com> wrote:

For what it's worth, I keep meticulous records for every imaginable
expense related to my Murphy Moose. Thus far I have a total of 220.6
hours on the Moose with operating costs running $115.55 (US) per hour.

Ted




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[Bill Delcambre]

Well, here in Lafayette, the current price for Exxon 100LL is about
$4.30/gal. Can you believe that we're only about 45 miles from the
refinery!?!? I firmly believe that we've got the most expensive gas in the
country. I've gotta get my STC for Mogas. :(

Bill


On 2/5/06, Ted Waltman <tedwaltman@i1ci.com> wrote:

Av gas. I push it to the runway by hand to keep the gas costs down.
<grin>. I also fly from an airport that probably has some of the least
expensive gas in the country on any given day. Some days there are 6 or
8 planes lined up to get fuel that fly in from other nearby airports.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Delcambre
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Moose operating costs


Hmmm. I've always made it a point to keep no records at all, that could
possibly be interpreted as operating costs, for any aircraft that I've
owned. I just keep telling folks that it's not nearly as bad as it's
made out to be.

Further, to be honest, I'm surprised that Ted's number isn't higher.
Are you burning Mogas or Avgas, Ted?

Bill


On 2/5/06, Ted Waltman <tedwaltman@i1ci.com> wrote:

For what it's worth, I keep meticulous records for every imaginable
expense related to my Murphy Moose. Thus far I have a total of 220.6
hours on the Moose with operating costs running $115.55 (US) per hour.

Ted




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[rickhm]

Ted,

I am curious about the breakdown. If your comfortable sharing, could you tell me (us) what percentage is fuel, insurance, etc. The big categories.

Rick Muller
SR70

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>

Av gas. I push it to the runway by hand to keep the gas costs down.
. I also fly from an airport that probably has some of the least
expensive gas in the country on any given day. Some days there are 6 or
8 planes lined up to get fuel that fly in from other nearby airports.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Delcambre
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Moose operating costs


Hmmm. I've always made it a point to keep no records at all, that could
possibly be interpreted as operating costs, for any aircraft that I've
owned. I just keep telling folks that it's not nearly as bad as it's
made out to be.

Further, to be honest, I'm surprised that Ted's number isn't higher.
Are you burning Mogas or Avgas, Ted?

Bill


On 2/5/06, Ted Waltman wrote:

For what it's worth, I keep meticulous records for every imaginable
expense related to my Murphy Moose. Thus far I have a total of 220.6
hours on the Moose with operating costs running $115.55 (US) per hour.

Ted




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[Ted Waltman]

I just sent Rick a copy of my current spreadsheet. While it is personal
[cost/expense] information, I'm Ok to share such with anyone that emails
me privately. Everyone's perspective on what expense to include/exclude
is different; I don't want to make any more of a science project of
analyzing costs than I already have. Plus, looking too much at the
expense end of things is never fun <grin>.

On another tab in my spreadsheet I keep entries that mirror those of my
logbook. I've heard too many stories of folks that lose their paper
logbook and can't recreate the #'s.

Ted

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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:08 AM
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Subject: RE: Moose operating costs


Ted,

I am curious about the breakdown. If your comfortable sharing, could
you tell me (us) what percentage is fuel, insurance, etc. The big
categories.

Rick Muller
SR70

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>

Av gas. I push it to the runway by hand to keep the gas costs down.
. I also fly from an airport that probably has some of the least
expensive gas in the country on any given day. Some days there are 6

or

8 planes lined up to get fuel that fly in from other nearby airports.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Delcambre
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Moose operating costs


Hmmm. I've always made it a point to keep no records at all, that
could
possibly be interpreted as operating costs, for any aircraft that I've

owned. I just keep telling folks that it's not nearly as bad as it's
made out to be.

Further, to be honest, I'm surprised that Ted's number isn't higher.
Are you burning Mogas or Avgas, Ted?

Bill


On 2/5/06, Ted Waltman wrote:

For what it's worth, I keep meticulous records for every imaginable
expense related to my Murphy Moose. Thus far I have a total of 220.6

hours on the Moose with operating costs running $115.55 (US) per

hour.

Ted




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[Ted Waltman]

FWIW, fuel is $2.85/g at Platte Valley near Denver. It ranges from
$2.99 to $3.85 at the other Denver airports.

-----Original Message-----
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Bill Delcambre
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:52 AM
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Subject: Re: Moose operating costs


Well, here in Lafayette, the current price for Exxon 100LL is about
$4.30/gal. Can you believe that we're only about 45 miles from the
refinery!?!? I firmly believe that we've got the most expensive gas in
the country. I've gotta get my STC for Mogas. :(

Bill


On 2/5/06, Ted Waltman <tedwaltman@i1ci.com> wrote:

Av gas. I push it to the runway by hand to keep the gas costs down.
<grin>. I also fly from an airport that probably has some of the
least expensive gas in the country on any given day. Some days there
are 6 or 8 planes lined up to get fuel that fly in from other nearby
airports.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bill Delcambre
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Moose operating costs


Hmmm. I've always made it a point to keep no records at all, that
could possibly be interpreted as operating costs, for any aircraft
that I've owned. I just keep telling folks that it's not nearly as
bad as it's made out to be.

Further, to be honest, I'm surprised that Ted's number isn't higher.
Are you burning Mogas or Avgas, Ted?

Bill


On 2/5/06, Ted Waltman <tedwaltman@i1ci.com> wrote:

For what it's worth, I keep meticulous records for every imaginable
expense related to my Murphy Moose. Thus far I have a total of
220.6 hours on the Moose with operating costs running $115.55 (US)
per hour.

Ted




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[Mike Davis]

FWIW, fuel is $2.85/g at Platte Valley near Denver. It ranges from
$2.99 to $3.85 at the other Denver airports.

We get our home heating fuel delivered by Alaska Aerofuel... I asked them
yesterday what 100LL was selling for... $3.88 in the wing, or $3.44 in a
tank not attached to an aircraft. The flight instructor I used had a 180
gal tank in the back of his truck, it was common to have the fuel truck
pumping into the tank in his truck at the same time we were pumping from
that tank into the airplane. But as long as they don't touch the airplane
we save anywhere from 40 to 60 cents a gallon.

Mike




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