Moose C of G Empty

Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

Can a few guys post up their empty C of G locations on wheels and floats if
possible.

Thanks, Wayne

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WALTER KLATT · Post by **WALTER KLATT** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

My Rebel on wheels with the 0320 was orginally at 925 pounds, and that was with a Warp Drive prop and bungee gear. My empty weight on the 1800 amphibs was originally 1200, but came out at 1250 on my last weighing, which I now use for my weight calcs when I go flying. But that also includes now a metal prop, survival gear, probably a few pounds of water trapped in my floats, grease in my wheels, paddle, other crap in my cabin, etc, etc.

And if I remember correctly, my empty c of g was about 10.6 both on wheels and on the amphibs. It didn't change by more than about .1. But that includes my survival gear stuffed into the tail. It was 9 point something before that. I have an Odyssey battery mounted forward of the firewall.

With that c of g, I can load it up real good with pax, fuel and baggage, and it flies just fine. My climb goes way down, but doesn't seem to hurt speed too much.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Date: Monday, January 9, 2006 9:11 am
Subject: Moose C of G Empty

Can a few guys post up their empty C of G locations on wheels and
floats if
possible.

Thanks, Wayne

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WALTER KLATT · Post by **WALTER KLATT** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

Whoops, sorry, missing seeing Moose in the subject. Kind of wondered why Wayne was asking that...

Walter

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From: WALTER KLATT <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Date: Monday, January 9, 2006 10:35 am
Subject: Re: Moose C of G Empty

My Rebel on wheels with the 0320 was orginally at 925 pounds, and
that was with a Warp Drive prop and bungee gear. My empty weight
on the 1800 amphibs was originally 1200, but came out at 1250 on
my last weighing, which I now use for my weight calcs when I go
flying. But that also includes now a metal prop, survival gear,
probably a few pounds of water trapped in my floats, grease in my
wheels, paddle, other crap in my cabin, etc, etc.

And if I remember correctly, my empty c of g was about 10.6 both
on wheels and on the amphibs. It didn't change by more than about
.1. But that includes my survival gear stuffed into the tail. It
was 9 point something before that. I have an Odyssey battery
mounted forward of the firewall.

With that c of g, I can load it up real good with pax, fuel and
baggage, and it flies just fine. My climb goes way down, but
doesn't seem to hurt speed too much.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Date: Monday, January 9, 2006 9:11 am
Subject: Moose C of G Empty

Can a few guys post up their empty C of G locations on wheels
and
floats if
possible.

Thanks, Wayne

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carol and murray cherkas · Post by **carol and murray cherkas** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

Hello Wayne

Wheels, bungee gear, battery in tail with ELT,

empty 970
pilot 170
pass. 0
baggage 0
fuel 288

C of G 13.1

empty 970
pilot 170
pass. 170
gaggage 280
fuel 60

C of G 17.4

empty 970
pilot and pass. 340
baggage 52
fuel 288

C of G 14.3

I used these numbers for my registration.

Hope it helps.

Murray Cherkas
Rebel 505

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

Thanks Murray and Walter! I have just proved what others have argued about
is not necessary....to detail the Subject line! LOL

I am looking for the EMPTY c of g for some MEESE...both on wheels and
floats.

Thanks,
Wayne

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From: "carol and murray cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Moose C of G Empty

Hello Wayne

Wheels, bungee gear, battery in tail with ELT,

empty 970
pilot 170
pass. 0
baggage 0
fuel 288

C of G 13.1

empty 970
pilot 170
pass. 170
gaggage 280
fuel 60

C of G 17.4

empty 970
pilot and pass. 340
baggage 52
fuel 288

C of G 14.3

I used these numbers for my registration.

Hope it helps.

Murray Cherkas
Rebel 505

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Al Paxhia · Post by **Al Paxhia** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

Wayne,
Airplane BEW 1946.8 23841.79 12.25

on wheels. I will get the Float stuff next time I go to the hangar.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Moose C of G Empty

Thanks Murray and Walter! I have just proved what others have argued about
is not necessary....to detail the Subject line! LOL

I am looking for the EMPTY c of g for some MEESE...both on wheels and
floats.

Thanks,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "carol and murray cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Moose C of G Empty

Hello Wayne

Wheels, bungee gear, battery in tail with ELT,

empty 970
pilot 170
pass. 0
baggage 0
fuel 288

C of G 13.1

empty 970
pilot 170
pass. 170
gaggage 280
fuel 60

C of G 17.4

empty 970
pilot and pass. 340
baggage 52
fuel 288

C of G 14.3

I used these numbers for my registration.

Hope it helps.

Murray Cherkas
Rebel 505

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

Thanks Al...just looking for a few cases so that the first set of CLAMAR
3500's, and their associated attach fittings, get set up right the first
time.

Cheers,
Wayne

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From: "Al Paxhia" <paxhia2@comcast.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Moose C of G Empty

Wayne,
Airplane BEW 1946.8 23841.79 12.25

on wheels. I will get the Float stuff next time I go to the hangar.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Moose C of G Empty

Thanks Murray and Walter! I have just proved what others have argued

about

is not necessary....to detail the Subject line! LOL

I am looking for the EMPTY c of g for some MEESE...both on wheels and
floats.

Thanks,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "carol and murray cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Moose C of G Empty

Hello Wayne

Wheels, bungee gear, battery in tail with ELT,

empty 970
pilot 170
pass. 0
baggage 0
fuel 288

C of G 13.1

empty 970
pilot 170
pass. 170
gaggage 280
fuel 60

C of G 17.4

empty 970
pilot and pass. 340
baggage 52
fuel 288

C of G 14.3

I used these numbers for my registration.

Hope it helps.

Murray Cherkas
Rebel 505

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carol and murray cherkas · Post by **carol and murray cherkas** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

OK so i didn't read it right. Maybe if you were to extrapolate( think thats
the word) and enter the empty weight for the moooooooose and adjust cof g
accordingly it might work.
I accept no responsibility for the outcome if there is one.
Must admit though that my figures do look good.

Have a great day

Budgie
aka Murray Cherkas

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