Moose-sized garage

[Bill Wagner]

I need some advice on the necessary work space to build a Moose. I'm
only at the "can't wait to start" stage - realistically, I won't order
the fast-build until next summer, as the wife and I just bought a house.

I know that the "final assembly" must take place in a hangar, but I need
that odd hour here & there if I'm ever going to finish this project. I
would like to do as much work as I can, for as long as I can, in my
garage (yet to be built).

Here's the problem: my wife's dream house happens to be on a 25-foot
wide lot. We bought the place, applied to the city for a development
permit to build a 25x24 (outside dimensions) garage, with a open 12-foot
ceiling, but our application was rejected today.

I've heard that 25x24 is pretty tight to begin with, and a 12-foot
ceiling would have been really nice to have, but there it is: city says
no, so the answer is no.

One solution would be to sell this house and get one with a bigger lot
next year, but the wife *really* likes this particular house. Keeping
her happy will go a long way to getting this thing built, too.

It looks like the best we can hope to get from the city is a 25x22 or
hopefully a 25x24 with a 9 or 10-foot ceiling. I might be able to store
the wings in the "attic", but there won't be a lot of space there
either.

Later on, we might be able to build a "greenhouse" that leans against
the garage and faces the house, which would mean we could stick the
rudder or firewall-forward "outside" the garage dimensions (by a couple
of feet), as long as none of the neighbours complains about a propellor
shading the tomato plants. Not ideal, but workable during the summer
months.

I gather this is going to be a really tight fit, once things start
getting assembled?

Ok guys, be honest - is this enough space, or am I dreaming? Should I
just go back to looking for a bigger lot so I can build a 24x32, or can
I hope to do some serious work on this thing without having to move it
off-site too early on in the process?

Bill in Calgary





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[Mike Davis]

No matter how big you build it, it's going to be tight! ;-) But I know of
one builder who built a SR2500 from a kit in a 1 car garage. Just built a
box outside to store the completed parts in... but it shows that it can be
done. You're right about one thing though, you want to do your building at
home, not in a hanger across town! My shop is big, but the area I use in
the actually building is probably about 15 x 30... of course when the pieces
start getting bigger and I want to put it all together, I just have to move
the cars out and I'll have the room I need. That said... I wouldn't
hesitate to start the project in a 25 x 22 shop.

Mike
195SR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Wagner" <WagnerB@mjss.ca>
To: <rebel-builders-d@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:38 PM
Subject: Moose-sized garage

I need some advice on the necessary work space to build a Moose. I'm
only at the "can't wait to start" stage - realistically, I won't order
the fast-build until next summer, as the wife and I just bought a house.

I know that the "final assembly" must take place in a hangar, but I need
that odd hour here & there if I'm ever going to finish this project. I
would like to do as much work as I can, for as long as I can, in my
garage (yet to be built).

Here's the problem: my wife's dream house happens to be on a 25-foot
wide lot. We bought the place, applied to the city for a development
permit to build a 25x24 (outside dimensions) garage, with a open 12-foot
ceiling, but our application was rejected today.

I've heard that 25x24 is pretty tight to begin with, and a 12-foot
ceiling would have been really nice to have, but there it is: city says
no, so the answer is no.

One solution would be to sell this house and get one with a bigger lot
next year, but the wife *really* likes this particular house. Keeping
her happy will go a long way to getting this thing built, too.

It looks like the best we can hope to get from the city is a 25x22 or
hopefully a 25x24 with a 9 or 10-foot ceiling. I might be able to store
the wings in the "attic", but there won't be a lot of space there
either.

Later on, we might be able to build a "greenhouse" that leans against
the garage and faces the house, which would mean we could stick the
rudder or firewall-forward "outside" the garage dimensions (by a couple
of feet), as long as none of the neighbours complains about a propellor
shading the tomato plants. Not ideal, but workable during the summer
months.

I gather this is going to be a really tight fit, once things start
getting assembled?

Ok guys, be honest - is this enough space, or am I dreaming? Should I
just go back to looking for a bigger lot so I can build a 24x32, or can
I hope to do some serious work on this thing without having to move it
off-site too early on in the process?

Bill in Calgary





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[Scott Aldrich]

Bill my garage (inside dimensions) is 25 by 22 plenty of room until you hang
the engine. Even then if you plan ahead and keep stuff out of the way you
can put it diagonally if you want. The length of the Moose as published on
the MAM website is wrong. Don't remember off the top of my head but I have
actual measurements here http://www.goflyamoose.com/Specifications.htm

I can not put mine diagonally and I have the engine on so I have to crawl
through the fuselage to get back and forth. It keeps you flexable..and
scars up your back when you get too tired to duck far enough...

Scott
Moose 174


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:39 PM
To: rebel-builders-d@dcsol.com
Subject: Moose-sized garage

I need some advice on the necessary work space to build a Moose. I'm
only at the "can't wait to start" stage - realistically, I won't order
the fast-build until next summer, as the wife and I just bought a house.

I know that the "final assembly" must take place in a hangar, but I need
that odd hour here & there if I'm ever going to finish this project. I
would like to do as much work as I can, for as long as I can, in my
garage (yet to be built).

Here's the problem: my wife's dream house happens to be on a 25-foot
wide lot. We bought the place, applied to the city for a development
permit to build a 25x24 (outside dimensions) garage, with a open 12-foot
ceiling, but our application was rejected today.

I've heard that 25x24 is pretty tight to begin with, and a 12-foot
ceiling would have been really nice to have, but there it is: city says
no, so the answer is no.

One solution would be to sell this house and get one with a bigger lot
next year, but the wife *really* likes this particular house. Keeping
her happy will go a long way to getting this thing built, too.

It looks like the best we can hope to get from the city is a 25x22 or
hopefully a 25x24 with a 9 or 10-foot ceiling. I might be able to store
the wings in the "attic", but there won't be a lot of space there
either.

Later on, we might be able to build a "greenhouse" that leans against
the garage and faces the house, which would mean we could stick the
rudder or firewall-forward "outside" the garage dimensions (by a couple
of feet), as long as none of the neighbours complains about a propellor
shading the tomato plants. Not ideal, but workable during the summer
months.

I gather this is going to be a really tight fit, once things start
getting assembled?

Ok guys, be honest - is this enough space, or am I dreaming? Should I
just go back to looking for a bigger lot so I can build a 24x32, or can
I hope to do some serious work on this thing without having to move it
off-site too early on in the process?

Bill in Calgary





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[Barnhart]

SR 103 is being built in a 30ft by 10ft back end of a garage. I get
something built and out to the hangar with it. The tail was already on when
I found out about the horizontal stabilizer mod. Had to pull the engine and
mount, move the tail out to where it could be worked with, do the mod,
reassemble tail (thinking about putting a zipper in the bottom tail cone),
and remount the engine.....

Barny
MGDQ 20bt SR103


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: Moose-sized garage

Bill my garage (inside dimensions) is 25 by 22 plenty of room until you

hang

the engine. Even then if you plan ahead and keep stuff out of the way you
can put it diagonally if you want. The length of the Moose as published

on

the MAM website is wrong. Don't remember off the top of my head but I have
actual measurements here http://www.goflyamoose.com/Specifications.htm

I can not put mine diagonally and I have the engine on so I have to crawl
through the fuselage to get back and forth. It keeps you flexable..and
scars up your back when you get too tired to duck far enough...

Scott
Moose 174


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:39 PM
To: rebel-builders-d@dcsol.com
Subject: Moose-sized garage

I need some advice on the necessary work space to build a Moose. I'm
only at the "can't wait to start" stage - realistically, I won't order
the fast-build until next summer, as the wife and I just bought a house.

I know that the "final assembly" must take place in a hangar, but I need
that odd hour here & there if I'm ever going to finish this project. I
would like to do as much work as I can, for as long as I can, in my
garage (yet to be built).

Here's the problem: my wife's dream house happens to be on a 25-foot
wide lot. We bought the place, applied to the city for a development
permit to build a 25x24 (outside dimensions) garage, with a open 12-foot
ceiling, but our application was rejected today.

I've heard that 25x24 is pretty tight to begin with, and a 12-foot
ceiling would have been really nice to have, but there it is: city says
no, so the answer is no.

One solution would be to sell this house and get one with a bigger lot
next year, but the wife *really* likes this particular house. Keeping
her happy will go a long way to getting this thing built, too.

It looks like the best we can hope to get from the city is a 25x22 or
hopefully a 25x24 with a 9 or 10-foot ceiling. I might be able to store
the wings in the "attic", but there won't be a lot of space there
either.

Later on, we might be able to build a "greenhouse" that leans against
the garage and faces the house, which would mean we could stick the
rudder or firewall-forward "outside" the garage dimensions (by a couple
of feet), as long as none of the neighbours complains about a propellor
shading the tomato plants. Not ideal, but workable during the summer
months.

I gather this is going to be a really tight fit, once things start
getting assembled?

Ok guys, be honest - is this enough space, or am I dreaming? Should I
just go back to looking for a bigger lot so I can build a 24x32, or can
I hope to do some serious work on this thing without having to move it
off-site too early on in the process?

Bill in Calgary





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[Dave Ricker]

Barnhart wrote:

SNIP! (thinking about putting a zipper in the bottom tail cone),

Sounds like the elevator on our Elite, it's been finished twice already and
there is still another MAM mod to go......

Dave

Barny
MGDQ 20bt SR103

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: Moose-sized garage

Bill my garage (inside dimensions) is 25 by 22 plenty of room until you

hang

the engine. Even then if you plan ahead and keep stuff out of the way you
can put it diagonally if you want. The length of the Moose as published

on

the MAM website is wrong. Don't remember off the top of my head but I have
actual measurements here http://www.goflyamoose.com/Specifications.htm

I can not put mine diagonally and I have the engine on so I have to crawl
through the fuselage to get back and forth. It keeps you flexable..and
scars up your back when you get too tired to duck far enough...

Scott
Moose 174


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:39 PM
To: rebel-builders-d@dcsol.com
Subject: Moose-sized garage

I need some advice on the necessary work space to build a Moose. I'm
only at the "can't wait to start" stage - realistically, I won't order
the fast-build until next summer, as the wife and I just bought a house.

I know that the "final assembly" must take place in a hangar, but I need
that odd hour here & there if I'm ever going to finish this project. I
would like to do as much work as I can, for as long as I can, in my
garage (yet to be built).

Here's the problem: my wife's dream house happens to be on a 25-foot
wide lot. We bought the place, applied to the city for a development
permit to build a 25x24 (outside dimensions) garage, with a open 12-foot
ceiling, but our application was rejected today.

I've heard that 25x24 is pretty tight to begin with, and a 12-foot
ceiling would have been really nice to have, but there it is: city says
no, so the answer is no.

One solution would be to sell this house and get one with a bigger lot
next year, but the wife *really* likes this particular house. Keeping
her happy will go a long way to getting this thing built, too.

It looks like the best we can hope to get from the city is a 25x22 or
hopefully a 25x24 with a 9 or 10-foot ceiling. I might be able to store
the wings in the "attic", but there won't be a lot of space there
either.

Later on, we might be able to build a "greenhouse" that leans against
the garage and faces the house, which would mean we could stick the
rudder or firewall-forward "outside" the garage dimensions (by a couple
of feet), as long as none of the neighbours complains about a propellor
shading the tomato plants. Not ideal, but workable during the summer
months.

I gather this is going to be a really tight fit, once things start
getting assembled?

Ok guys, be honest - is this enough space, or am I dreaming? Should I
just go back to looking for a bigger lot so I can build a 24x32, or can
I hope to do some serious work on this thing without having to move it
off-site too early on in the process?

Bill in Calgary





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