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Wayne G. O'Shea

Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but I
guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and the
only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are doing as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should I say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his Elite was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of the
hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses from
the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're already
back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL

:O)
Wayne

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Your wrong Wayne, I care and probably most other builders, but are to busy
trying to build to reply. Jim is right, it really looks great. - Oh how I
miss my Rebel. Nice job Wayne: What was the reason for you having it? -
some
where along the line I missed why it was there.
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

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Dale Fultz

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Post by Dale Fultz » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

Wayne looks like a nice plane a friend was wondering if it is for sale???
Thanks Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:07 PM
Subject: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but I
guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and the
only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are doing
as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should I
say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his Elite
was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of the
hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing
that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses from
the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're already
back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL

:O)
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Your wrong Wayne, I care and probably most other builders, but are to
busy
trying to build to reply. Jim is right, it really looks great. - Oh how I
miss my Rebel. Nice job Wayne: What was the reason for you having it? -
some
where along the line I missed why it was there.
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

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bransom

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Post by bransom » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

Must confess guilt here Wayne in seeing your completion and thinking (too
much to myself) oh, Wayne's moved one of his many projects out of the shop,
and gee, that seemed kind of quick (from far away)... Plus, also thinking I
only hope mine comes out looking sorta like that one day, C paint job or
whatever! :)).

It's easy to take for granted that with all your experience here, you too see
build challanges and the pride of accomplishments along the way. Thanks for
the reminder. AND, YEAH, way friggin cool lookin plane!! I forget, are you
also the original builder? (I saved a pic of it on floats from previous
posts, as a dang good example to shoot for.)
Have a good wknd everybody,
-Ben/496R



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Scott Aldrich

Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Post by Scott Aldrich » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

Sounds like you do need to go north <grin>.

I don't think it has anything to with "not giving a rat's ass" or a lack of
enthusiasm about someone's completion. All of us still working know it took
a lot of his, and his families, time and dedication to see this through and
are in awe of his accomplishment (if not a little envious). <grin>

Some of it goes back to the poor subject lines; I didn't recall a first
flight or completion post. I went back and found Alan's email and sent him
a note offline.

If everyone on the list said congratulation wouldn't it just become spam?
After just so many on list "congrats" a private email may be more
appropriate.

As far as yours Wayne, yes, probably a little less (but only a little)
exciting that it's not a first and that it is a for profit operation. It
almost sounds like you want to be paid for your advice?

I can't imagine anyone not saying a quick "thank you" for a response? A
good percentage of posts get no response at all.

Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but I
guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and the
only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are doing
as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should I
say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his Elite
was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of the
hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing
that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses from
the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're already
back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL

:O)
Wayne

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Your wrong Wayne, I care and probably most other builders, but are to
busy
trying to build to reply. Jim is right, it really looks great. - Oh how
I
miss my Rebel. Nice job Wayne: What was the reason for you having it? -
some
where along the line I missed why it was there.
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

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Wayne G. O'Shea

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Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

North......I am on the 13th and also when the "advise" will come to an end!

..as for being Spam if everyone said congrats to a guys/gals new
completion.....I'm sure everyone is a tad more tolerable than that. What's a
few dozen emails a day for a few days after each completion. I get over 300
spam / day on top of all my real email. Don't see it as a big deal.

..as for a "for profit operation"..dream on..."for justification operation"
maybe. It covers the property taxes and hydro bills around here...and maybe
500 gallons of AV gas per year (and the odd airplane part for maintenance).
I could get serious with a few helpers and probably do close to 7
figures/year on aircraft completions and repairs...but that's not what I'm
in this for!

..wanting to be paid for my advise....I've been giving it for free for over
12 years.....much to the dismay of Darryl Murphy at times... and spent
countless hours on the phone almost nightly before the internet helping
builders that where unsure what to do next. We always joked about a 1-900 #
but it was only a joke..... Unlike guys like Govier that decodes Chrysler
cars. He doesn't get on the phone until his wife takes your credit card #
and then it's $100US/hour. Email replies are $50 for a couple paragraphs. At
those rates for the words/day that I type I'd be living on Belize by now! On
the other hand...do you not think the advise I have given so freely for
years is worth anything?

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Sounds like you do need to go north <grin>.

I don't think it has anything to with "not giving a rat's ass" or a lack
of
enthusiasm about someone's completion. All of us still working know it
took
a lot of his, and his families, time and dedication to see this through
and
are in awe of his accomplishment (if not a little envious). <grin>

Some of it goes back to the poor subject lines; I didn't recall a first
flight or completion post. I went back and found Alan's email and sent
him
a note offline.

If everyone on the list said congratulation wouldn't it just become spam?
After just so many on list "congrats" a private email may be more
appropriate.

As far as yours Wayne, yes, probably a little less (but only a little)
exciting that it's not a first and that it is a for profit operation. It
almost sounds like you want to be paid for your advice?

I can't imagine anyone not saying a quick "thank you" for a response? A
good percentage of posts get no response at all.

Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but I
guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and
the
only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are
doing
as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should I
say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his Elite
was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of
the
hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing
that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses
from
the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're
already
back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL

:O)
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert and Olga Johnson" <rjohnson18@cogeco.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Your wrong Wayne, I care and probably most other builders, but are to
busy
trying to build to reply. Jim is right, it really looks great. - Oh
how
I
miss my Rebel. Nice job Wayne: What was the reason for you having
it? -
some
where along the line I missed why it was there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!



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Scott Aldrich

Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Post by Scott Aldrich » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

I'm just giving you flak for, as you said, "digging for a compliment" then
getting grumpy when it didn't come through.

I should have just let it slide, I apologize.

Your advice has been invaluable to many but the real value is in the warm
fuzzy it gives you knowing you have helped many, many builders over the
years.

What, no satellite connection up there?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

North......I am on the 13th and also when the "advise" will come to an
end!

..as for being Spam if everyone said congrats to a guys/gals new
completion.....I'm sure everyone is a tad more tolerable than that. What's
a
few dozen emails a day for a few days after each completion. I get over
300
spam / day on top of all my real email. Don't see it as a big deal.

..as for a "for profit operation"..dream on..."for justification
operation"
maybe. It covers the property taxes and hydro bills around here...and
maybe
500 gallons of AV gas per year (and the odd airplane part for
maintenance).
I could get serious with a few helpers and probably do close to 7
figures/year on aircraft completions and repairs...but that's not what I'm
in this for!

..wanting to be paid for my advise....I've been giving it for free for
over
12 years.....much to the dismay of Darryl Murphy at times... and spent
countless hours on the phone almost nightly before the internet helping
builders that where unsure what to do next. We always joked about a 1-900
#
but it was only a joke..... Unlike guys like Govier that decodes Chrysler
cars. He doesn't get on the phone until his wife takes your credit card #
and then it's $100US/hour. Email replies are $50 for a couple paragraphs.
At
those rates for the words/day that I type I'd be living on Belize by now!
On
the other hand...do you not think the advise I have given so freely for
years is worth anything?

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Sounds like you do need to go north <grin>.

I don't think it has anything to with "not giving a rat's ass" or a lack
of
enthusiasm about someone's completion. All of us still working know it
took
a lot of his, and his families, time and dedication to see this through
and
are in awe of his accomplishment (if not a little envious). <grin>

Some of it goes back to the poor subject lines; I didn't recall a first
flight or completion post. I went back and found Alan's email and sent
him
a note offline.

If everyone on the list said congratulation wouldn't it just become
spam?
After just so many on list "congrats" a private email may be more
appropriate.

As far as yours Wayne, yes, probably a little less (but only a little)
exciting that it's not a first and that it is a for profit operation.
It
almost sounds like you want to be paid for your advice?

I can't imagine anyone not saying a quick "thank you" for a response? A
good percentage of posts get no response at all.

Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but
I
guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and
the
only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are
doing
as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should
I
say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his
Elite
was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of
the
hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing
that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses
from
the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're
already
back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL

:O)
Wayne

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

to
busy
how
I
it? -
some


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Wayne G. O'Shea

Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

Nothing to apologize for Scott...that's what makes the list and our
countries great...free speech! I saw the tongue and cheek in your response,
just clarifying my position(s).

As for a satellite connection.....hell I even have a phone line....but
that's one number that's not being given out (nor would you even find the
name it's listed under :O))) ! )...nor do I think I'll take a computer up
for the near future at least...even though I can get better service there
than I have here at home!

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

I'm just giving you flak for, as you said, "digging for a compliment" then
getting grumpy when it didn't come through.

I should have just let it slide, I apologize.

Your advice has been invaluable to many but the real value is in the warm
fuzzy it gives you knowing you have helped many, many builders over the
years.

What, no satellite connection up there?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

North......I am on the 13th and also when the "advise" will come to an
end!

..as for being Spam if everyone said congrats to a guys/gals new
completion.....I'm sure everyone is a tad more tolerable than that.
What's
a
few dozen emails a day for a few days after each completion. I get over
300
spam / day on top of all my real email. Don't see it as a big deal.

..as for a "for profit operation"..dream on..."for justification
operation"
maybe. It covers the property taxes and hydro bills around here...and
maybe
500 gallons of AV gas per year (and the odd airplane part for
maintenance).
I could get serious with a few helpers and probably do close to 7
figures/year on aircraft completions and repairs...but that's not what
I'm
in this for!

..wanting to be paid for my advise....I've been giving it for free for
over
12 years.....much to the dismay of Darryl Murphy at times... and spent
countless hours on the phone almost nightly before the internet helping
builders that where unsure what to do next. We always joked about a
1-900
#
but it was only a joke..... Unlike guys like Govier that decodes
Chrysler
cars. He doesn't get on the phone until his wife takes your credit card
#
and then it's $100US/hour. Email replies are $50 for a couple
paragraphs.
At
those rates for the words/day that I type I'd be living on Belize by
now!
On
the other hand...do you not think the advise I have given so freely for
years is worth anything?

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Sounds like you do need to go north <grin>.

I don't think it has anything to with "not giving a rat's ass" or a
lack
of
enthusiasm about someone's completion. All of us still working know
it
took
a lot of his, and his families, time and dedication to see this
through
and
are in awe of his accomplishment (if not a little envious). <grin>

Some of it goes back to the poor subject lines; I didn't recall a
first
flight or completion post. I went back and found Alan's email and
sent
him
a note offline.

If everyone on the list said congratulation wouldn't it just become
spam?
After just so many on list "congrats" a private email may be more
appropriate.

As far as yours Wayne, yes, probably a little less (but only a little)
exciting that it's not a first and that it is a for profit operation.
It
almost sounds like you want to be paid for your advice?

I can't imagine anyone not saying a quick "thank you" for a response?
A
good percentage of posts get no response at all.

Scott



Of
back....but
I
and
the
doing
should
I
Elite
of
the
advise
and
thing
responses
from
already
to
Oh
how
it? -



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Mike Davis

Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Post by Mike Davis » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

I've said many time Wayne that I may provide a place for this forum, but
it's the guys on the list, with you leading the way, that make it such a
success. If you do take a computer along with you, it should only be to
download the digital camera so you can share all those great pics with us
when you get back!

Enjoy your time off, it's well earned. Oh, nice job putting another one
right! ;-)

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Nothing to apologize for Scott...that's what makes the list and our
countries great...free speech! I saw the tongue and cheek in your
response,
just clarifying my position(s).

As for a satellite connection.....hell I even have a phone line....but
that's one number that's not being given out (nor would you even find the
name it's listed under :O))) ! )...nor do I think I'll take a computer up
for the near future at least...even though I can get better service there
than I have here at home!

Cheers,
Wayne


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Alan Hepburn

Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Post by Alan Hepburn » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:35 am

Personally, I found the level of response OK. It's perhaps a little sad
that completions are sufficiently unusual that they still merit individual
congratulations.

I should particularly thank those who were extremely helpful during the
process: Sean White, Jack Wiebe, Brian Heinmiller (who'd building a Sonex,
not a Murphy) and the others who provided helpful advice from time to time,
and will no doubt continue to do so.

My paperwork is now on its way to Jamie, so I'm off the "critical path".
Nice to relax a bit and work on the flight test plan. Today is "calibrate
the Princeton fuel sensors" day.

Al Hepburn





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