Brake lines

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Should be that 1/4" clear/yellowy plastic line that came with your kit!? If
not any hydraulic/pneumatic supply house will have/get it. Part # for the
3/8" diameter used on the amphibs is NR-6-048...so suspect the 1/4" is
NR-4-048..I'll look on the stuff I have when I return to the shop.... after
my sandwich!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: brake lines

where can i buy parker paraflex ??

-----Original Message-----
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Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Or slip some heat shrink tube over it in the area's exposed before
installing the fittings. Same goes for the hydraulics on the amphibs.

Note:

My Rebel has been flying for 10 years now. Have never had as much as a
weaping brake line. 1/4" Parker parflex... pedal to wheel

caliper...although

I am stored indoors...although don't think that really matters as my line
runs inside the gear covers so only part exposed is a very short section
right at the caliper.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: brake lines

The plastic brake line can be easily covered from UV in exposed areas

with

aluminum tape.

Bruce




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[Jones, Michael]

my kit is 007,
remember,
i have none of this stuff,
have 5/16" dia black hose with brass push on fitting to go reservoir to
pedal i think, or could be fuel line
also have bunch of brass compression fittings, tees & elbows, some of these
have white compression insert while others have brass compression insert, no
labels of course

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Should be that 1/4" clear/yellowy plastic line that came with your kit!? If
not any hydraulic/pneumatic supply house will have/get it. Part # for the
3/8" diameter used on the amphibs is NR-6-048...so suspect the 1/4" is
NR-4-048..I'll look on the stuff I have when I return to the shop.... after
my sandwich!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: brake lines

where can i buy parker paraflex ??

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Or slip some heat shrink tube over it in the area's exposed before
installing the fittings. Same goes for the hydraulics on the amphibs.

Note:

My Rebel has been flying for 10 years now. Have never had as much as a
weaping brake line. 1/4" Parker parflex... pedal to wheel

caliper...although

I am stored indoors...although don't think that really matters as my line
runs inside the gear covers so only part exposed is a very short section
right at the caliper.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: brake lines

The plastic brake line can be easily covered from UV in exposed areas

with

aluminum tape.

Bruce




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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

NR-4-035 is the part # for 1/4" Clear Nylon Parker Parflex. Use the brass
compression fittings with this. I prefer the white plastic ferrals, but U
can use the brass if need be. Yes the rubber hose and barbed hose fittings
are for the reservoir to top of the brake pedal cylinders.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@hatch.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: brake lines

my kit is 007,
remember,
i have none of this stuff,
have 5/16" dia black hose with brass push on fitting to go reservoir to
pedal i think, or could be fuel line
also have bunch of brass compression fittings, tees & elbows, some of

these

have white compression insert while others have brass compression insert,

no

labels of course

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Should be that 1/4" clear/yellowy plastic line that came with your kit!?

If

not any hydraulic/pneumatic supply house will have/get it. Part # for the
3/8" diameter used on the amphibs is NR-6-048...so suspect the 1/4" is
NR-4-048..I'll look on the stuff I have when I return to the shop....

after

my sandwich!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: brake lines

where can i buy parker paraflex ??

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Or slip some heat shrink tube over it in the area's exposed before
installing the fittings. Same goes for the hydraulics on the amphibs.

Note:

My Rebel has been flying for 10 years now. Have never had as much as a
weaping brake line. 1/4" Parker parflex... pedal to wheel

caliper...although

I am stored indoors...although don't think that really matters as my

line

runs inside the gear covers so only part exposed is a very short section
right at the caliper.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: brake lines

The plastic brake line can be easily covered from UV in exposed areas

with

aluminum tape.

Bruce




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[Walter Klatt]

I haven't followed all of this thread, so don't know if it was
mentioned, but I assume that everyone is aware of the gun drilled
gear option, which means you don't need external brake lines all
the way down to your brakes.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jones, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:21 AM
To: 'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'
Subject: RE: brake lines


my kit is 007,
remember,
i have none of this stuff,
have 5/16" dia black hose with brass push on fitting
to go reservoir to
pedal i think, or could be fuel line
also have bunch of brass compression fittings, tees &
elbows, some of these
have white compression insert while others have brass
compression insert, no
labels of course

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Should be that 1/4" clear/yellowy plastic line that
came with your kit!? If
not any hydraulic/pneumatic supply house will have/get
it. Part # for the
3/8" diameter used on the amphibs is NR-6-048...so
suspect the 1/4" is
NR-4-048..I'll look on the stuff I have when I return
to the shop.... after
my sandwich!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: brake lines

where can i buy parker paraflex ??

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com

[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of

Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Or slip some heat shrink tube over it in the area's

exposed before

installing the fittings. Same goes for the

hydraulics on the amphibs.
Note:

My Rebel has been flying for 10 years now. Have

never had as much as a

weaping brake line. 1/4" Parker parflex... pedal to wheel

caliper...although

I am stored indoors...although don't think that

really matters as my line

runs inside the gear covers so only part exposed is

a very short section

right at the caliper.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: brake lines

The plastic brake line can be easily covered from

UV in exposed areas
with

aluminum tape.

Bruce

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[Jones, Michael]

what is this walter

-----Original Message-----
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Walter Klatt
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 2:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: brake lines


I haven't followed all of this thread, so don't know if it was
mentioned, but I assume that everyone is aware of the gun drilled
gear option, which means you don't need external brake lines all
the way down to your brakes.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jones, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:21 AM
To: 'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'
Subject: RE: brake lines


my kit is 007,
remember,
i have none of this stuff,
have 5/16" dia black hose with brass push on fitting
to go reservoir to
pedal i think, or could be fuel line
also have bunch of brass compression fittings, tees &
elbows, some of these
have white compression insert while others have brass
compression insert, no
labels of course

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Should be that 1/4" clear/yellowy plastic line that
came with your kit!? If
not any hydraulic/pneumatic supply house will have/get
it. Part # for the
3/8" diameter used on the amphibs is NR-6-048...so
suspect the 1/4" is
NR-4-048..I'll look on the stuff I have when I return
to the shop.... after
my sandwich!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: brake lines

where can i buy parker paraflex ??

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com

[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of

Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Or slip some heat shrink tube over it in the area's

exposed before

installing the fittings. Same goes for the

hydraulics on the amphibs.
Note:

My Rebel has been flying for 10 years now. Have

never had as much as a

weaping brake line. 1/4" Parker parflex... pedal to wheel

caliper...although

I am stored indoors...although don't think that

really matters as my line

runs inside the gear covers so only part exposed is

a very short section

right at the caliper.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: brake lines

The plastic brake line can be easily covered from

UV in exposed areas
with

aluminum tape.

Bruce

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[Drew Dalgleish]

It's for the spring gear

At 03:03 PM 3/29/2005 -0500, you wrote:

what is this walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Walter Klatt
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 2:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: brake lines


I haven't followed all of this thread, so don't know if it was
mentioned, but I assume that everyone is aware of the gun drilled
gear option, which means you don't need external brake lines all
the way down to your brakes.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jones, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:21 AM
To: 'rebel-builders@dcsol.com'
Subject: RE: brake lines


my kit is 007,
remember,
i have none of this stuff,
have 5/16" dia black hose with brass push on fitting
to go reservoir to
pedal i think, or could be fuel line
also have bunch of brass compression fittings, tees &
elbows, some of these
have white compression insert while others have brass
compression insert, no
labels of course

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Should be that 1/4" clear/yellowy plastic line that
came with your kit!? If
not any hydraulic/pneumatic supply house will have/get
it. Part # for the
3/8" diameter used on the amphibs is NR-6-048...so
suspect the 1/4" is
NR-4-048..I'll look on the stuff I have when I return
to the shop.... after
my sandwich!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: brake lines

where can i buy parker paraflex ??

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com

[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of

Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:03 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: brake lines


Or slip some heat shrink tube over it in the area's

exposed before

installing the fittings. Same goes for the

hydraulics on the amphibs.
Note:

My Rebel has been flying for 10 years now. Have

never had as much as a

weaping brake line. 1/4" Parker parflex... pedal to wheel

caliper...although

I am stored indoors...although don't think that

really matters as my line

runs inside the gear covers so only part exposed is

a very short section

right at the caliper.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
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[WALTER KLATT]

Yes, the lines are just drilled into the gear. You can ask MAM about that.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Drew Dalgleish <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:10 pm
Subject: RE: brake lines

It's for the spring gear

At 03:03 PM 3/29/2005 -0500, you wrote:

what is this walter

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I haven't followed all of this thread, so don't know if it was
mentioned, but I assume that everyone is aware of the gun drilled
gear option, which means you don't need external brake lines all
the way down to your brakes.

Walter

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[mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Jones, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:21 AM
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Subject: RE: brake lines


my kit is 007,
remember,
i have none of this stuff,
have 5/16" dia black hose with brass push on fitting
to go reservoir to
pedal i think, or could be fuel line
also have bunch of brass compression fittings, tees &
elbows, some of these
have white compression insert while others have brass
compression insert, no
labels of course

mike

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[mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:11 PM
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Should be that 1/4" clear/yellowy plastic line that
came with your kit!? If
not any hydraulic/pneumatic supply house will have/get
it. Part # for the
3/8" diameter used on the amphibs is NR-6-048...so
suspect the 1/4" is
NR-4-048..I'll look on the stuff I have when I return
to the shop.... after
my sandwich!

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[mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of exposed before hydraulics on the amphibs.
Note: never had as much as a caliper...although really matters as my line a very short section UV in exposed areas
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[Jones, Michael]

hi all

does anyone out there recall the size of brake line to use with the brass
fittings that come in the kit, 1/8 or 1/4 ??

mike#007

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

1/4

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hi all

does anyone out there recall the size of brake line to use with the brass
fittings that come in the kit, 1/8 or 1/4 ??

mike#007

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[Ken]

MAM supplies 1/4" parkerflex. My question is why ;) ?
I keep seeing 3/16 plastic brake lines on other aircraft and 3/16 will
tolerate much higher pressure. I looked up all the specs once and
thought 1/4 should be fine but there are sufficient reports of problems
with the 1/4 that I wonder if it is the best choice. Also I thought the
fittings looked like they were intended for a greater wall thickness
than the 0.035 Parker flex...

Mike - regarding the nicopress gauge, if you have a measuring caliper to
check the squeezed sleeves I can look up or measure the specs for you.
The gauge is just a slot to make sure the sleeve has been squeezed
enough. Worth checking as stuff happens and all squeezing devices are
subject to manufacturing defects, wear, etc.

Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

hi all

does anyone out there recall the size of brake line to use with the brass
fittings that come in the kit, 1/8 or 1/4 ??

mike#007

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[Jones, Michael]

HI KEN

are the AN fittings then the 4d size to screw into the caliper and cylinders
??

mike

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MAM supplies 1/4" parkerflex. My question is why ;) ?
I keep seeing 3/16 plastic brake lines on other aircraft and 3/16 will
tolerate much higher pressure. I looked up all the specs once and
thought 1/4 should be fine but there are sufficient reports of problems
with the 1/4 that I wonder if it is the best choice. Also I thought the
fittings looked like they were intended for a greater wall thickness
than the 0.035 Parker flex...

Mike - regarding the nicopress gauge, if you have a measuring caliper to
check the squeezed sleeves I can look up or measure the specs for you.
The gauge is just a slot to make sure the sleeve has been squeezed
enough. Worth checking as stuff happens and all squeezing devices are
subject to manufacturing defects, wear, etc.

Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

hi all

does anyone out there recall the size of brake line to use with the brass
fittings that come in the kit, 1/8 or 1/4 ??

mike#007

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[Ken]

No the caliper and cylinders are threaded for 1/8" NPT.
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

HI KEN

are the AN fittings then the 4d size to screw into the caliper and cylinders
??

mike

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[Jones, Michael]

i know they are 1/8 npt, if i am using AN adapter to to go from npt to AN
fitting the fitting would be AN822-4D ?? i think, tube size is 1/4

mike

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No the caliper and cylinders are threaded for 1/8" NPT.
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

HI KEN

are the AN fittings then the 4d size to screw into the caliper and

cylinders

??

mike

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[Ken]

Yes if transitioning to 1/4" metal tube. Just add an AN819-4d and
AN818-4d and flare the end of the tube.
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

i know they are 1/8 npt, if i am using AN adapter to to go from npt to AN
fitting the fitting would be AN822-4D ?? i think, tube size is 1/4

mike

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No the caliper and cylinders are threaded for 1/8" NPT.
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

HI KEN

are the AN fittings then the 4d size to screw into the caliper and

cylinders

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mike

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[mbetti]

Are the builders using the nylon brake line for the brake system? Does it work out ok?
Thanks,
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