Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

[Alan Hepburn]

Elite Gross Weight etc.Elitists:

I believe this is the first time it's been in print. Just in time for
my final inspection.

Thanks to Sean White and Robin Dyck.

Al Hepburn

----- Original Message -----
From: Hepburn, Alan
To: 'weebee1@sympatico.ca' ; 'ahepburn@renc.igs.net'
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: FW: Elite Gross Weight etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Murtech Mailbox [mailto:murtech@murphyair.com]
Sent: March 8, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Hepburn, Alan
Subject: RE: Elite Gross Weight etc.


To whom it may concern,



Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.



To reduce the elevator pitch sensitivity of the Elite it has been tested
and approved to reduce the width of the aerodynamic balances by a
maximum of 4 inches at each end of the elevator. This in effect will
reduce the total elevator span to not less than 102 inches.

The mass balance of the elevator must be maintained at not less than
75%.



Robin Dyck




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From: Hepburn, Alan [mailto:hepburna@aecl.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Murtech Mailbox
Cc: weebee1@sympatico.ca
Subject: Elite Gross Weight etc.



Robin:

Futher to our telephone conversation, please provide some kind of
written evidence confirming design agreement with as high a gross weight
as you feel comfortable with for this airplane on floats. I trust you
will be able to at least endorse the 5% increase for floats to 1890 lbs,
but anything more would be greatly appreciated. When you apply the
formulae in the CARS, in comes out to almost 2200 lbs, as I recollect.
That would be beautiful!

Also, something in writing confiming design agreement with the reduced
span spades on the elevator would be good to have on hand for my final
inspection. I did put in some doublers under the skins and on the tip
ribs to stiffen up the narrower spades, as this seemed prudent. There
are a couple of pictures on the wildcat BBS (www.dcsol.com).

Al Hepburn





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[Mike Davis]

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Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.

Does this mean the Moose now has a gross of 3675? Or is this old news?

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

When it's on FLOATS only! Wayne

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

----- Original Message -----

Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.

Does this mean the Moose now has a gross of 3675? Or is this old news?

Mike
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[Daryl C. W. O'Shea]

Where do you attach these 'floats'?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 49218&rd=1


Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:

When it's on FLOATS only! Wayne

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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

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aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.

Does this mean the Moose now has a gross of 3675? Or is this old news?

Mike
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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Tape three to each gear leg, one to the tailwheel tube and call it a day...
after amending the paperwork to include the 5%!

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Where do you attach these 'floats'?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 7139249218&
rd=1

Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:

When it's on FLOATS only! Wayne

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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

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Mike
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[Alan Hepburn]

Guys:

It wasn't so much the gross weight thing that I was interested in - unless
he'd been prepared to go for something more than the 5%. It is the part on
the stab span reduction. Nobody seems to have noticed that.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Elite Gross Weight etc.Elitists:

I believe this is the first time it's been in print. Just in time for
my final inspection.

Thanks to Sean White and Robin Dyck.

Al Hepburn

----- Original Message -----
From: Hepburn, Alan
To: 'weebee1@sympatico.ca' ; 'ahepburn@renc.igs.net'
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: FW: Elite Gross Weight etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Murtech Mailbox [mailto:murtech@murphyair.com]
Sent: March 8, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Hepburn, Alan
Subject: RE: Elite Gross Weight etc.


To whom it may concern,



Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.



To reduce the elevator pitch sensitivity of the Elite it has been tested
and approved to reduce the width of the aerodynamic balances by a
maximum of 4 inches at each end of the elevator. This in effect will
reduce the total elevator span to not less than 102 inches.

The mass balance of the elevator must be maintained at not less than
75%.



Robin Dyck




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From: Hepburn, Alan [mailto:hepburna@aecl.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Murtech Mailbox
Cc: weebee1@sympatico.ca
Subject: Elite Gross Weight etc.



Robin:

Futher to our telephone conversation, please provide some kind of
written evidence confirming design agreement with as high a gross weight
as you feel comfortable with for this airplane on floats. I trust you
will be able to at least endorse the 5% increase for floats to 1890 lbs,
but anything more would be greatly appreciated. When you apply the
formulae in the CARS, in comes out to almost 2200 lbs, as I recollect.
That would be beautiful!

Also, something in writing confiming design agreement with the reduced
span spades on the elevator would be good to have on hand for my final
inspection. I did put in some doublers under the skins and on the tip
ribs to stiffen up the narrower spades, as this seemed prudent. There
are a couple of pictures on the wildcat BBS (www.dcsol.com).

Al Hepburn





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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Noticed it right off Al...just not as many Elite builders around here as
everything else. Everyone seemed to be doing the mod anyhow and I guess
everyone gets pretty lax since you really don't need MAM's blessing to do
these mods in Canada or the USA (disclaimer-of course I don't recommend mods
without their blessing... if you don't know what you're doing).

England and Oz may be a much different story. Nigel's in England and he
can't even install my firewall reinforcing plates unless he buys them
directly from me (ie he can't make them himself) and must buy all the other
parts from MAM to do any other mods to the airframe. Even with this he had
to get the authorities blessing in writing before doing any mods from the
way the kit comes..so for him this letter is worth it's weight in gold.

Cheers,
Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Guys:

It wasn't so much the gross weight thing that I was interested in - unless
he'd been prepared to go for something more than the 5%. It is the part

on

the stab span reduction. Nobody seems to have noticed that.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Elite Gross Weight etc.Elitists:

I believe this is the first time it's been in print. Just in time for
my final inspection.

Thanks to Sean White and Robin Dyck.

Al Hepburn

----- Original Message -----
From: Hepburn, Alan
To: 'weebee1@sympatico.ca' ; 'ahepburn@renc.igs.net'
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: FW: Elite Gross Weight etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Murtech Mailbox [mailto:murtech@murphyair.com]
Sent: March 8, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Hepburn, Alan
Subject: RE: Elite Gross Weight etc.


To whom it may concern,



Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.



To reduce the elevator pitch sensitivity of the Elite it has been tested
and approved to reduce the width of the aerodynamic balances by a
maximum of 4 inches at each end of the elevator. This in effect will
reduce the total elevator span to not less than 102 inches.

The mass balance of the elevator must be maintained at not less than
75%.



Robin Dyck

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From: Hepburn, Alan [mailto:hepburna@aecl.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Murtech Mailbox
Cc: weebee1@sympatico.ca
Subject: Elite Gross Weight etc.



Robin:

Futher to our telephone conversation, please provide some kind of
written evidence confirming design agreement with as high a gross weight
as you feel comfortable with for this airplane on floats. I trust you
will be able to at least endorse the 5% increase for floats to 1890 lbs,
but anything more would be greatly appreciated. When you apply the
formulae in the CARS, in comes out to almost 2200 lbs, as I recollect.
That would be beautiful!

Also, something in writing confiming design agreement with the reduced
span spades on the elevator would be good to have on hand for my final
inspection. I did put in some doublers under the skins and on the tip
ribs to stiffen up the narrower spades, as this seemed prudent. There
are a couple of pictures on the wildcat BBS (www.dcsol.com).

Al Hepburn





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[Bob Andrews]

Regarding the stab spade mod ... I planed on doing anyway. But it is nice
to know MAM is on board ... but it wasn't the determining factor in my doing
it ... it was definitely on the list.

As an asside ... yesterday I got a chance to get some stick time in Al
Paxhia's Moose ... sure hope my Elite flys as nice as his Moose does ...
what a joy !!! He let me fly it a little at S&F while on floats a few years
ago and it was nothing short of AWESOME. This time it was on the gear ...
as before, very responsive and stable ... sure handled nice ... really fired
me up to get this Elite flying ... THANKS AL !!!

Bob e612



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Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:56 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.


Noticed it right off Al...just not as many Elite builders around here as
everything else. Everyone seemed to be doing the mod anyhow and I guess
everyone gets pretty lax since you really don't need MAM's blessing to do
these mods in Canada or the USA (disclaimer-of course I don't recommend mods
without their blessing... if you don't know what you're doing).

England and Oz may be a much different story. Nigel's in England and he
can't even install my firewall reinforcing plates unless he buys them
directly from me (ie he can't make them himself) and must buy all the other
parts from MAM to do any other mods to the airframe. Even with this he had
to get the authorities blessing in writing before doing any mods from the
way the kit comes..so for him this letter is worth it's weight in gold.

Cheers,
Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Guys:

It wasn't so much the gross weight thing that I was interested in - unless
he'd been prepared to go for something more than the 5%. It is the part

on

the stab span reduction. Nobody seems to have noticed that.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Elite Gross Weight etc.Elitists:

I believe this is the first time it's been in print. Just in time for
my final inspection.

Thanks to Sean White and Robin Dyck.

Al Hepburn

----- Original Message -----
From: Hepburn, Alan
To: 'weebee1@sympatico.ca' ; 'ahepburn@renc.igs.net'
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: FW: Elite Gross Weight etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Murtech Mailbox [mailto:murtech@murphyair.com]
Sent: March 8, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Hepburn, Alan
Subject: RE: Elite Gross Weight etc.


To whom it may concern,



Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.



To reduce the elevator pitch sensitivity of the Elite it has been tested
and approved to reduce the width of the aerodynamic balances by a
maximum of 4 inches at each end of the elevator. This in effect will
reduce the total elevator span to not less than 102 inches.

The mass balance of the elevator must be maintained at not less than
75%.



Robin Dyck

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From: Hepburn, Alan [mailto:hepburna@aecl.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Murtech Mailbox
Cc: weebee1@sympatico.ca
Subject: Elite Gross Weight etc.



Robin:

Futher to our telephone conversation, please provide some kind of
written evidence confirming design agreement with as high a gross weight
as you feel comfortable with for this airplane on floats. I trust you
will be able to at least endorse the 5% increase for floats to 1890 lbs,
but anything more would be greatly appreciated. When you apply the
formulae in the CARS, in comes out to almost 2200 lbs, as I recollect.
That would be beautiful!

Also, something in writing confiming design agreement with the reduced
span spades on the elevator would be good to have on hand for my final
inspection. I did put in some doublers under the skins and on the tip
ribs to stiffen up the narrower spades, as this seemed prudent. There
are a couple of pictures on the wildcat BBS (www.dcsol.com).

Al Hepburn





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[Alan Hepburn]

Well, that's why I left the UK!!

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Noticed it right off Al...just not as many Elite builders around here as
everything else. Everyone seemed to be doing the mod anyhow and I guess
everyone gets pretty lax since you really don't need MAM's blessing to do
these mods in Canada or the USA (disclaimer-of course I don't recommend

mods

without their blessing... if you don't know what you're doing).

England and Oz may be a much different story. Nigel's in England and he
can't even install my firewall reinforcing plates unless he buys them
directly from me (ie he can't make them himself) and must buy all the

other

parts from MAM to do any other mods to the airframe. Even with this he had
to get the authorities blessing in writing before doing any mods from the
way the kit comes..so for him this letter is worth it's weight in gold.

Cheers,
Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Guys:

It wasn't so much the gross weight thing that I was interested in -

unless

he'd been prepared to go for something more than the 5%. It is the part

on

the stab span reduction. Nobody seems to have noticed that.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Elite Gross Weight etc.Elitists:

I believe this is the first time it's been in print. Just in time for
my final inspection.

Thanks to Sean White and Robin Dyck.

Al Hepburn

----- Original Message -----
From: Hepburn, Alan
To: 'weebee1@sympatico.ca' ; 'ahepburn@renc.igs.net'
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: FW: Elite Gross Weight etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Murtech Mailbox [mailto:murtech@murphyair.com]
Sent: March 8, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Hepburn, Alan
Subject: RE: Elite Gross Weight etc.


To whom it may concern,



Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.



To reduce the elevator pitch sensitivity of the Elite it has been

tested

and approved to reduce the width of the aerodynamic balances by a
maximum of 4 inches at each end of the elevator. This in effect will
reduce the total elevator span to not less than 102 inches.

The mass balance of the elevator must be maintained at not less than
75%.



Robin Dyck

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From: Hepburn, Alan [mailto:hepburna@aecl.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Murtech Mailbox
Cc: weebee1@sympatico.ca
Subject: Elite Gross Weight etc.



Robin:

Futher to our telephone conversation, please provide some kind of
written evidence confirming design agreement with as high a gross

weight

as you feel comfortable with for this airplane on floats. I trust you
will be able to at least endorse the 5% increase for floats to 1890

lbs,

but anything more would be greatly appreciated. When you apply the
formulae in the CARS, in comes out to almost 2200 lbs, as I recollect.
That would be beautiful!

Also, something in writing confiming design agreement with the reduced
span spades on the elevator would be good to have on hand for my final
inspection. I did put in some doublers under the skins and on the tip
ribs to stiffen up the narrower spades, as this seemed prudent. There
are a couple of pictures on the wildcat BBS (www.dcsol.com).

Al Hepburn





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[Alan Hepburn]

Wayne:

I was just looking down the final inspection checklist, and there was a
questions along the lines of "Has anything been done to affect the flying
qualities of the aircarft?" I coould hardly stay quiet on that one, and
since I'm a first time builder, I wasn't sure how seriously the inspectors
would take it, so I thought I'd try to get something in writing. I've
already established that my guy will not move on gross weight, and even
wanted a factory letter for the 5% float allowance.

Al

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Noticed it right off Al...just not as many Elite builders around here as
everything else. Everyone seemed to be doing the mod anyhow and I guess
everyone gets pretty lax since you really don't need MAM's blessing to do
these mods in Canada or the USA (disclaimer-of course I don't recommend

mods

without their blessing... if you don't know what you're doing).

England and Oz may be a much different story. Nigel's in England and he
can't even install my firewall reinforcing plates unless he buys them
directly from me (ie he can't make them himself) and must buy all the

other

parts from MAM to do any other mods to the airframe. Even with this he had
to get the authorities blessing in writing before doing any mods from the
way the kit comes..so for him this letter is worth it's weight in gold.

Cheers,
Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Guys:

It wasn't so much the gross weight thing that I was interested in -

unless

he'd been prepared to go for something more than the 5%. It is the part

on

the stab span reduction. Nobody seems to have noticed that.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Elite Gross Weight etc.Elitists:

I believe this is the first time it's been in print. Just in time for
my final inspection.

Thanks to Sean White and Robin Dyck.

Al Hepburn

----- Original Message -----
From: Hepburn, Alan
To: 'weebee1@sympatico.ca' ; 'ahepburn@renc.igs.net'
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: FW: Elite Gross Weight etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Murtech Mailbox [mailto:murtech@murphyair.com]
Sent: March 8, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Hepburn, Alan
Subject: RE: Elite Gross Weight etc.


To whom it may concern,



Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.



To reduce the elevator pitch sensitivity of the Elite it has been

tested

and approved to reduce the width of the aerodynamic balances by a
maximum of 4 inches at each end of the elevator. This in effect will
reduce the total elevator span to not less than 102 inches.

The mass balance of the elevator must be maintained at not less than
75%.



Robin Dyck

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From: Hepburn, Alan [mailto:hepburna@aecl.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Murtech Mailbox
Cc: weebee1@sympatico.ca
Subject: Elite Gross Weight etc.



Robin:

Futher to our telephone conversation, please provide some kind of
written evidence confirming design agreement with as high a gross

weight

as you feel comfortable with for this airplane on floats. I trust you
will be able to at least endorse the 5% increase for floats to 1890

lbs,

but anything more would be greatly appreciated. When you apply the
formulae in the CARS, in comes out to almost 2200 lbs, as I recollect.
That would be beautiful!

Also, something in writing confiming design agreement with the reduced
span spades on the elevator would be good to have on hand for my final
inspection. I did put in some doublers under the skins and on the tip
ribs to stiffen up the narrower spades, as this seemed prudent. There
are a couple of pictures on the wildcat BBS (www.dcsol.com).

Al Hepburn





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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Alan, I thought all the MDRA inspectors by now would have seen the letter
issued by one of the standards heads from TC that stated they didn't want to
have anything to do with nailing the builder down on his gross weight as
that could be construde as they had approved the design of the
airplane/drawings etc and it was up to the builder to put what ever he was
going to use on the paperwork. This came about from people asking for gross
weight increases after they were originally flying and some offices where
asking for engineering proof etc to prove what you were asking for was safe.
Since this is clearly outside the scope of the chapter 549 mandate (where it
states TC is not approving what you are building--just allowing) they/he
made this written statement that he didn't want drawings/engineering data
etc to prove the operating weight was safe as that could be constude as
being studied and accepted by TC and they don't want that liability.

Maybe the MDRA are sticking to their guns on this, but I undestood they were
being advised by TC to allow what ever the builder wants unless it is
clearly unsafe and then MDRA can refuse to do your final and hand it over to
TC for inspection. The other avenue is to get it flying without ruffling
feathers and then ask TC for an upgross on your weight after you have flown
off the 25 hours restriction....and another avenue is to call it a Hepburn
Special and do what you want from the get go.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Wayne:

I was just looking down the final inspection checklist, and there was a
questions along the lines of "Has anything been done to affect the flying
qualities of the aircarft?" I coould hardly stay quiet on that one, and
since I'm a first time builder, I wasn't sure how seriously the inspectors
would take it, so I thought I'd try to get something in writing. I've
already established that my guy will not move on gross weight, and even
wanted a factory letter for the 5% float allowance.

Al

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Noticed it right off Al...just not as many Elite builders around here as
everything else. Everyone seemed to be doing the mod anyhow and I guess
everyone gets pretty lax since you really don't need MAM's blessing to

do

these mods in Canada or the USA (disclaimer-of course I don't recommend

mods

without their blessing... if you don't know what you're doing).

England and Oz may be a much different story. Nigel's in England and he
can't even install my firewall reinforcing plates unless he buys them
directly from me (ie he can't make them himself) and must buy all the

other

parts from MAM to do any other mods to the airframe. Even with this he

had

to get the authorities blessing in writing before doing any mods from

the

way the kit comes..so for him this letter is worth it's weight in gold.

Cheers,
Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

Guys:

It wasn't so much the gross weight thing that I was interested in -

unless

he'd been prepared to go for something more than the 5%. It is the

part

on

the stab span reduction. Nobody seems to have noticed that.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.

for

all

tested

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weight

you

lbs,

recollect.

reduced

final

tip

There

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[N.Smith]

Hi All

Just uploaded a .DOC file to Elite Float Installations I received from Brian
Godden last year allowing the increase to 1890 lbs to satisfy the UK PFA.

Nigel
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Alan Hepburn
Sent: 09 March 2005 13:16
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Factory Approval for Elite Elevator Mod.


Elite Gross Weight etc.Elitists:

I believe this is the first time it's been in print. Just in time for
my final inspection.

Thanks to Sean White and Robin Dyck.

Al Hepburn

----- Original Message -----
From: Hepburn, Alan
To: 'weebee1@sympatico.ca' ; 'ahepburn@renc.igs.net'
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: FW: Elite Gross Weight etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Murtech Mailbox [mailto:murtech@murphyair.com]
Sent: March 8, 2005 1:54 PM
To: Hepburn, Alan
Subject: RE: Elite Gross Weight etc.


To whom it may concern,



Murphy Aircraft Mfg. Ltd. approves a 5% gross weight increase for all
aircraft models manufactured by Murphy.



To reduce the elevator pitch sensitivity of the Elite it has been tested
and approved to reduce the width of the aerodynamic balances by a
maximum of 4 inches at each end of the elevator. This in effect will
reduce the total elevator span to not less than 102 inches.

The mass balance of the elevator must be maintained at not less than
75%.



Robin Dyck




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From: Hepburn, Alan [mailto:hepburna@aecl.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Murtech Mailbox
Cc: weebee1@sympatico.ca
Subject: Elite Gross Weight etc.



Robin:

Futher to our telephone conversation, please provide some kind of
written evidence confirming design agreement with as high a gross weight
as you feel comfortable with for this airplane on floats. I trust you
will be able to at least endorse the 5% increase for floats to 1890 lbs,
but anything more would be greatly appreciated. When you apply the
formulae in the CARS, in comes out to almost 2200 lbs, as I recollect.
That would be beautiful!

Also, something in writing confiming design agreement with the reduced
span spades on the elevator would be good to have on hand for my final
inspection. I did put in some doublers under the skins and on the tip
ribs to stiffen up the narrower spades, as this seemed prudent. There
are a couple of pictures on the wildcat BBS (www.dcsol.com).

Al Hepburn





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