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Hello everybody
The work on my wing is very but very fun! A question:
In the manual, they do not talk about the wiring... Should I have do some now before close the wing or evrything can be do after? Should I install some tubing across the nose rib and how?
Jean
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The work on my wing is very but very fun! A question:
In the manual, they do not talk about the wiring... Should I have do some now before close the wing or evrything can be do after? Should I install some tubing across the nose rib and how?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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wiring...
Hi Jean !
Good advice from Ralph - it does work best to run the wiring up
inside the wing strut, along with the tubing for the pitot. By all means,
install a pipe to carry the wires - whether metal or flexible plastic
is your choice...
For some reason, Mr. Murphy does not like the idea of wiring
running up inside the leading edge ! The nose section of the wing
forms a "D" tube, which is a large part of the strength of the wing -
maybe he felt the holes in the nose ribs would weaken it - I don't
know.... But - it might be best to run the tube for the wires
BEHIND the middle spar. There's certainly lots of room to work
there !
You could run the actual wires now, or just run a piece of
heavy twine or rope to pull wires through later. It's a good idea
to leave a rope there anyway, in case you want to add or
replace wires later. As Ralph said, put in all the wires you might
need - if you use the Fife wing tips, you will need wires for the
landing lights that are in the tips, as well as the nav & strobe lights.
I would suggest the 3 light Aeroflash combination strobe
& nav lights, with the white light at the rear, so you'll be legal for
night without an extra light on the tail (although a tail light
& strobe is not a bad idea !). The Aeroflash unit looks cleaner
than the Whelan, and costs considerably less. It also has
the power-packs in the wing tip, instead of in the fuselage
like the Whelan. With the pack in the fuse, you are running
very high voltage all the way out to the tip - this can add a
LOT of radio noise !! The only down side is that the Aeroflash
may not be quite as bright as the Whelan ..
Keep rivetting - IT'S WORTH IT !!! :-)
......bobp
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Good advice from Ralph - it does work best to run the wiring up
inside the wing strut, along with the tubing for the pitot. By all means,
install a pipe to carry the wires - whether metal or flexible plastic
is your choice...
For some reason, Mr. Murphy does not like the idea of wiring
running up inside the leading edge ! The nose section of the wing
forms a "D" tube, which is a large part of the strength of the wing -
maybe he felt the holes in the nose ribs would weaken it - I don't
know.... But - it might be best to run the tube for the wires
BEHIND the middle spar. There's certainly lots of room to work
there !
You could run the actual wires now, or just run a piece of
heavy twine or rope to pull wires through later. It's a good idea
to leave a rope there anyway, in case you want to add or
replace wires later. As Ralph said, put in all the wires you might
need - if you use the Fife wing tips, you will need wires for the
landing lights that are in the tips, as well as the nav & strobe lights.
I would suggest the 3 light Aeroflash combination strobe
& nav lights, with the white light at the rear, so you'll be legal for
night without an extra light on the tail (although a tail light
& strobe is not a bad idea !). The Aeroflash unit looks cleaner
than the Whelan, and costs considerably less. It also has
the power-packs in the wing tip, instead of in the fuselage
like the Whelan. With the pack in the fuse, you are running
very high voltage all the way out to the tip - this can add a
LOT of radio noise !! The only down side is that the Aeroflash
may not be quite as bright as the Whelan ..
Keep rivetting - IT'S WORTH IT !!! :-)
......bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Friday 14 January 2005 12:17 pm, Jean Poirier wrote:
Hello everybody
The work on my wing is very but very fun! A question:
In the manual, they do not talk about the wiring... Should I have do some
now before close the wing or evrything can be do after? Should I install
some tubing across the nose rib and how?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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wiring...
Thanks Bob and Ralf,
If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge, behind
the main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that idea....
May be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easier later
this week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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Subject: Re: wiring...
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If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge, behind
the main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that idea....
May be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easier later
this week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
Hi Jean !
Good advice from Ralph - it does work best to run the wiring up
inside the wing strut, along with the tubing for the pitot. By all means,
install a pipe to carry the wires - whether metal or flexible plastic
is your choice...
For some reason, Mr. Murphy does not like the idea of wiring
running up inside the leading edge ! The nose section of the wing
forms a "D" tube, which is a large part of the strength of the wing -
maybe he felt the holes in the nose ribs would weaken it - I don't
know.... But - it might be best to run the tube for the wires
BEHIND the middle spar. There's certainly lots of room to work
there !
You could run the actual wires now, or just run a piece of
heavy twine or rope to pull wires through later. It's a good idea
to leave a rope there anyway, in case you want to add or
replace wires later. As Ralph said, put in all the wires you might
need - if you use the Fife wing tips, you will need wires for the
landing lights that are in the tips, as well as the nav & strobe lights.
I would suggest the 3 light Aeroflash combination strobe
& nav lights, with the white light at the rear, so you'll be legal for
night without an extra light on the tail (although a tail light
& strobe is not a bad idea !). The Aeroflash unit looks cleaner
than the Whelan, and costs considerably less. It also has
the power-packs in the wing tip, instead of in the fuselage
like the Whelan. With the pack in the fuse, you are running
very high voltage all the way out to the tip - this can add a
LOT of radio noise !! The only down side is that the Aeroflash
may not be quite as bright as the Whelan ..
Keep rivetting - IT'S WORTH IT !!! :-)
......bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Friday 14 January 2005 12:17 pm, Jean Poirier wrote:Hello everybody
The work on my wing is very but very fun! A question:
In the manual, they do not talk about the wiring... Should I have do
some
now before close the wing or evrything can be do after? Should I
install
some tubing across the nose rib and how?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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wiring...
Hi Jean
I believe Daryl didn't like the idea of loose wires rattling around
ahead of the forward spar (within 2 inches of the most forward part of
the wing). Eventually they might abraid (wear) the 0.020 skin and
weaken it. If you use a properly fastened conduit or properly fastened
wire bundle I think you could put it anywhere you wanted.
As others have suggested, I put a 3/8 id. polyethylene tube in about 1.5
inches ahead of the main (mid) spar, but only from the strut attach
points to the outboard wing tip. Polyethylene is that cheap white/milky
hardware store coiled tubing that comes in many sizes. I mounted it on
standoffs that rivet to each rib at the vertical midpoint of the spar.
The standoffs are just a small flat piece of alumininum with a plastic
bushing for the tubing to go through. ASS, Spaenaur, etc sell plastic
bushings although that is probably overkill anyway. A bit of proseal or
RTV would probably be sufficient.The same could be done with aluminum
tube but I preferred a plastic electrically insulating tube. I don't
know a lot about plastics but I don't think poly tube releases chlorine
in a fire like some of the harder plastics. If you run the wires up the
strut then you can put a tube almost anywhere since they will enter the
wing outboard of the fuel tank.
Ken
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I believe Daryl didn't like the idea of loose wires rattling around
ahead of the forward spar (within 2 inches of the most forward part of
the wing). Eventually they might abraid (wear) the 0.020 skin and
weaken it. If you use a properly fastened conduit or properly fastened
wire bundle I think you could put it anywhere you wanted.
As others have suggested, I put a 3/8 id. polyethylene tube in about 1.5
inches ahead of the main (mid) spar, but only from the strut attach
points to the outboard wing tip. Polyethylene is that cheap white/milky
hardware store coiled tubing that comes in many sizes. I mounted it on
standoffs that rivet to each rib at the vertical midpoint of the spar.
The standoffs are just a small flat piece of alumininum with a plastic
bushing for the tubing to go through. ASS, Spaenaur, etc sell plastic
bushings although that is probably overkill anyway. A bit of proseal or
RTV would probably be sufficient.The same could be done with aluminum
tube but I preferred a plastic electrically insulating tube. I don't
know a lot about plastics but I don't think poly tube releases chlorine
in a fire like some of the harder plastics. If you run the wires up the
strut then you can put a tube almost anywhere since they will enter the
wing outboard of the fuel tank.
Ken
Jean Poirier wrote:
Thanks Bob and Ralf,
If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge, behind
the main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that idea....
May be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easier later
this week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
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wiring...
As Ken says Jean....Murph was against wires in the VERY forward small "D"
ahead of the fwd spare..not what Bob is saying about the entire leading edge
section. Lots of guys where finishing up their wings..realizing they had no
where to put the wires thru and stuffed them thru the small area ahead of
the fwd spare.
The factory quick builds install a piece of
ahead of the fwd spare..not what Bob is saying about the entire leading edge
section. Lots of guys where finishing up their wings..realizing they had no
where to put the wires thru and stuffed them thru the small area ahead of
the fwd spare.
The factory quick builds install a piece of
wiring...
Thanks Way ne for your answer
So I should run an aluminium tubing between 1/2" and 3/4" of diameter
from
the wing tip up to the strut? The wires will be free in the strut o
r they
will be also in a alum. tubing?
Jean
Rebel 747R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
So I should run an aluminium tubing between 1/2" and 3/4" of diameter
from
the wing tip up to the strut? The wires will be free in the strut o
r they
will be also in a alum. tubing?
Jean
Rebel 747R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
ll "D"As Ken says Jean....Murph was against wires in the VERY forward sma
dingahead of the fwd spare..not what Bob is saying about the entire lea
y hadedge
section. Lots of guys where finishing up their wings..realizing the
ead ofno
where to put the wires thru and stuffed them thru the small area ah
the fwd spare.
The factory quick builds install a piece of
wiring...
Jean...I run the wiring right thru the wing to the root. I'm not overly fond
of the "thru the lift strut" route for the wiring and pitot line....but to
each his own.
Cheers,
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Poirier" <oxyport@globetrotter.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
of the "thru the lift strut" route for the wiring and pitot line....but to
each his own.
Cheers,
Wayne
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From: "Jean Poirier" <oxyport@globetrotter.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
ead ofThanks Way ne for your answer
So I should run an aluminium tubing between 1/2" and 3/4" of diameter
from
the wing tip up to the strut? The wires will be free in the strut o
r they
will be also in a alum. tubing?
Jean
Rebel 747R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
ll "D"As Ken says Jean....Murph was against wires in the VERY forward smadingahead of the fwd spare..not what Bob is saying about the entire leay hadedge
section. Lots of guys where finishing up their wings..realizing theno
where to put the wires thru and stuffed them thru the small area ah
the fwd spare.
The factory quick builds install a piece of
wiring...
Hi Jean !
If you run the wires up the wing strut, they can then go behind
the spar from there to the wing tip - you are past the fuel tank at
that point.
It's best to run the wires down the strut (with quick-disconnects
at both ends) along with the pitot lines, because they then come into
the cockpit down at the bottom, in front of the cage tubes. It's a LOT
easier to run them from there up behind the panel, than trying to
thread them along the wing root, around the cage, and down !!
I've used the clear plastic tubing like the fuel guages (Canadian
Tire) - it's flexible, so easy to thread in, and you can see the wires.....
hope it isn't PVC ! :-)
.............bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
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If you run the wires up the wing strut, they can then go behind
the spar from there to the wing tip - you are past the fuel tank at
that point.
It's best to run the wires down the strut (with quick-disconnects
at both ends) along with the pitot lines, because they then come into
the cockpit down at the bottom, in front of the cage tubes. It's a LOT
easier to run them from there up behind the panel, than trying to
thread them along the wing root, around the cage, and down !!
I've used the clear plastic tubing like the fuel guages (Canadian
Tire) - it's flexible, so easy to thread in, and you can see the wires.....
hope it isn't PVC ! :-)
.............bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 17 January 2005 09:19 am, Jean Poirier wrote:
Thanks Bob and Ralf,
If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge, behind
the main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that idea....
May be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easier later
this week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
-----------------------------------------------------------------Hi Jean !
Good advice from Ralph - it does work best to run the wiring up
inside the wing strut, along with the tubing for the pitot. By all
means, install a pipe to carry the wires - whether metal or flexible
plastic is your choice...
For some reason, Mr. Murphy does not like the idea of wiring
running up inside the leading edge ! The nose section of the wing
forms a "D" tube, which is a large part of the strength of the wing -
maybe he felt the holes in the nose ribs would weaken it - I don't
know.... But - it might be best to run the tube for the wires
BEHIND the middle spar. There's certainly lots of room to work
there !
You could run the actual wires now, or just run a piece of
heavy twine or rope to pull wires through later. It's a good idea
to leave a rope there anyway, in case you want to add or
replace wires later. As Ralph said, put in all the wires you might
need - if you use the Fife wing tips, you will need wires for the
landing lights that are in the tips, as well as the nav & strobe lights.
I would suggest the 3 light Aeroflash combination strobe
& nav lights, with the white light at the rear, so you'll be legal for
night without an extra light on the tail (although a tail light
& strobe is not a bad idea !). The Aeroflash unit looks cleaner
than the Whelan, and costs considerably less. It also has
the power-packs in the wing tip, instead of in the fuselage
like the Whelan. With the pack in the fuse, you are running
very high voltage all the way out to the tip - this can add a
LOT of radio noise !! The only down side is that the Aeroflash
may not be quite as bright as the Whelan ..
Keep rivetting - IT'S WORTH IT !!! :-)
......bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
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The work on my wing is very but very fun! A question:
In the manual, they do not talk about the wiring... Should I have do
some
now before close the wing or evrything can be do after? Should I
install
some tubing across the nose rib and how?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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wiring...
Does anyone know is there supposed to be conduit on the fast build Moose
wings for the wiring??? I have e-mailed Murphy several times no answer.
Dale (moose 033SR)
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wings for the wiring??? I have e-mailed Murphy several times no answer.
Dale (moose 033SR)
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wires.....Hi Jean !
If you run the wires up the wing strut, they can then go behind
the spar from there to the wing tip - you are past the fuel tank at
that point.
It's best to run the wires down the strut (with quick-disconnects
at both ends) along with the pitot lines, because they then come into
the cockpit down at the bottom, in front of the cage tubes. It's a LOT
easier to run them from there up behind the panel, than trying to
thread them along the wing root, around the cage, and down !!
I've used the clear plastic tubing like the fuel guages (Canadian
Tire) - it's flexible, so easy to thread in, and you can see the
behindhope it isn't PVC ! :-)
.............bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 17 January 2005 09:19 am, Jean Poirier wrote:Thanks Bob and Ralf,
If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge,
laterthe main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that idea....
May be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easier
lights.this week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
Hi Jean !
Good advice from Ralph - it does work best to run the wiring up
inside the wing strut, along with the tubing for the pitot. By all
means, install a pipe to carry the wires - whether metal or flexible
plastic is your choice...
For some reason, Mr. Murphy does not like the idea of wiring
running up inside the leading edge ! The nose section of the wing
forms a "D" tube, which is a large part of the strength of the wing -
maybe he felt the holes in the nose ribs would weaken it - I don't
know.... But - it might be best to run the tube for the wires
BEHIND the middle spar. There's certainly lots of room to work
there !
You could run the actual wires now, or just run a piece of
heavy twine or rope to pull wires through later. It's a good idea
to leave a rope there anyway, in case you want to add or
replace wires later. As Ralph said, put in all the wires you might
need - if you use the Fife wing tips, you will need wires for the
landing lights that are in the tips, as well as the nav & strobe
-----------------------------------------------------------------I would suggest the 3 light Aeroflash combination strobe
& nav lights, with the white light at the rear, so you'll be legal for
night without an extra light on the tail (although a tail light
& strobe is not a bad idea !). The Aeroflash unit looks cleaner
than the Whelan, and costs considerably less. It also has
the power-packs in the wing tip, instead of in the fuselage
like the Whelan. With the pack in the fuse, you are running
very high voltage all the way out to the tip - this can add a
LOT of radio noise !! The only down side is that the Aeroflash
may not be quite as bright as the Whelan ..
Keep rivetting - IT'S WORTH IT !!! :-)
......bobp
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Dale...my earlier post was MAM verbatum on what they are currently doing
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one.
Cheers,
Wayne
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with the fast build Meese. Not sure what they did if you have an earlier
one.
Cheers,
Wayne
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idea....Does anyone know is there supposed to be conduit on the fast build Moose
wings for the wiring??? I have e-mailed Murphy several times no answer.
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Subject: Re: wiring...
wires.....Hi Jean !
If you run the wires up the wing strut, they can then go behind
the spar from there to the wing tip - you are past the fuel tank at
that point.
It's best to run the wires down the strut (with quick-disconnects
at both ends) along with the pitot lines, because they then come into
the cockpit down at the bottom, in front of the cage tubes. It's a LOT
easier to run them from there up behind the panel, than trying to
thread them along the wing root, around the cage, and down !!
I've used the clear plastic tubing like the fuel guages (Canadian
Tire) - it's flexible, so easy to thread in, and you can see thebehindhope it isn't PVC ! :-)
.............bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
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If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge,the main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that
wing -laterMay be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easierthis week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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My wings arrived 12-12-04 can't find any conduit in them anywhere. Dale
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LOTDale...my earlier post was MAM verbatum on what they are currently doing
with the fast build Meese. Not sure what they did if you have an earlier
one.
Cheers,
Wayne
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Does anyone know is there supposed to be conduit on the fast build Moose
wings for the wiring??? I have e-mailed Murphy several times no answer.
Dale (moose 033SR)
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
Hi Jean !
If you run the wires up the wing strut, they can then go behind
the spar from there to the wing tip - you are past the fuel tank at
that point.
It's best to run the wires down the strut (with quick-disconnects
at both ends) along with the pitot lines, because they then come into
the cockpit down at the bottom, in front of the cage tubes. It's a
aidea....wires.....easier to run them from there up behind the panel, than trying to
thread them along the wing root, around the cage, and down !!
I've used the clear plastic tubing like the fuel guages (Canadian
Tire) - it's flexible, so easy to thread in, and you can see thebehindhope it isn't PVC ! :-)
.............bobp
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wiring...
Maybe give them a call/email...maybe I misunderstood what they do...vs...
what their employees suggest!? I do know that Robin and the boys are
"recharging their batteries this week" and the tech department is on
holidays.
Wayne
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what their employees suggest!? I do know that Robin and the boys are
"recharging their batteries this week" and the tech department is on
holidays.
Wayne
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MooseMy wings arrived 12-12-04 can't find any conduit in them anywhere. Dale
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Dale...my earlier post was MAM verbatum on what they are currently doing
with the fast build Meese. Not sure what they did if you have an earlier
one.
Cheers,
Wayne
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Does anyone know is there supposed to be conduit on the fast build
answer.wings for the wiring??? I have e-mailed Murphy several times no
intoDale (moose 033SR)
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wiring...
When I was at the factory 3 years ago, there was about a 2 foot coil of
orange plastic conduit sticking out each end of the wing... so if you're not
seeing that then they've obviously changed.
Mike
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orange plastic conduit sticking out each end of the wing... so if you're not
seeing that then they've obviously changed.
Mike
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 4:53 PM
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Does anyone know is there supposed to be conduit on the fast build Moose
wings for the wiring??? I have e-mailed Murphy several times no answer.
Dale (moose 033SR)
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
wires.....Hi Jean !
If you run the wires up the wing strut, they can then go behind
the spar from there to the wing tip - you are past the fuel tank at
that point.
It's best to run the wires down the strut (with quick-disconnects
at both ends) along with the pitot lines, because they then come into
the cockpit down at the bottom, in front of the cage tubes. It's a LOT
easier to run them from there up behind the panel, than trying to
thread them along the wing root, around the cage, and down !!
I've used the clear plastic tubing like the fuel guages (Canadian
Tire) - it's flexible, so easy to thread in, and you can see thebehindhope it isn't PVC ! :-)
.............bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 17 January 2005 09:19 am, Jean Poirier wrote:Thanks Bob and Ralf,
If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge,laterthe main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that idea....
May be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easierlights.this week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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wiring...
Hi Dale,
Moose 096 had an orange colored plastic tube in each fast build wing.
Dick Shotwell
Moose 096
N235DS
Twin Falls, ID
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Moose 096 had an orange colored plastic tube in each fast build wing.
Dick Shotwell
Moose 096
N235DS
Twin Falls, ID
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idea....Does anyone know is there supposed to be conduit on the fast build Moose
wings for the wiring??? I have e-mailed Murphy several times no answer.
Dale (moose 033SR)
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: wiring...
wires.....Hi Jean !
If you run the wires up the wing strut, they can then go behind
the spar from there to the wing tip - you are past the fuel tank at
that point.
It's best to run the wires down the strut (with quick-disconnects
at both ends) along with the pitot lines, because they then come into
the cockpit down at the bottom, in front of the cage tubes. It's a LOT
easier to run them from there up behind the panel, than trying to
thread them along the wing root, around the cage, and down !!
I've used the clear plastic tubing like the fuel guages (Canadian
Tire) - it's flexible, so easy to thread in, and you can see thebehindhope it isn't PVC ! :-)
.............bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
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If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge,the main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that
wing -laterMay be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easierthis week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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wiring...
Sounds like most of us had the orange loom in ours. So we need to figure
out what is the best way to do it after the wing is built?
Scott
Moose 174
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Hi Dale,
Moose 096 had an orange colored plastic tube in each fast build wing.
Dick Shotwell
Moose 096
N235DS
Twin Falls, ID
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out what is the best way to do it after the wing is built?
Scott
Moose 174
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Hi Dale,
Moose 096 had an orange colored plastic tube in each fast build wing.
Dick Shotwell
Moose 096
N235DS
Twin Falls, ID
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idea....Does anyone know is there supposed to be conduit on the fast build Moose
wings for the wiring??? I have e-mailed Murphy several times no answer.
Dale (moose 033SR)
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
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Subject: Re: wiring...
wires.....Hi Jean !
If you run the wires up the wing strut, they can then go behind
the spar from there to the wing tip - you are past the fuel tank at
that point.
It's best to run the wires down the strut (with quick-disconnects
at both ends) along with the pitot lines, because they then come into
the cockpit down at the bottom, in front of the cage tubes. It's a LOT
easier to run them from there up behind the panel, than trying to
thread them along the wing root, around the cage, and down !!
I've used the clear plastic tubing like the fuel guages (Canadian
Tire) - it's flexible, so easy to thread in, and you can see thebehindhope it isn't PVC ! :-)
.............bobp
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 17 January 2005 09:19 am, Jean Poirier wrote:Thanks Bob and Ralf,
If Darryl don't like to the idea of a tubing in the leading edge,the main spar mean across the gas tank.... I do not like that
wing -laterMay be in front of the rear spar behind the gas tank bulkhead? I am a
"visual" and my wing wing is all close (by cleco) so it will easierthis week when I will remove the skin but what have been done by other
builders up to now?
Jean
Rebel 747R
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