Props/O-320

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

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Ryan, The only person I know, personally, that is running a Prince "P" tip
on a Lycoming is Keith Weston. He is President of the Collingwood Ontario
R.A.A. Chapter. To the best of my knowledge he is quite happy with the prop.
(as he has flown it for some years now on a Zenith) I don't have an e-mail
for him but his phone number is 705-444-1422 if you want to get his honest
opinion! Are you sure you want to go 160 H.P. and not have them build it as
150?? The 160 H.P. is just a diffferent set of pistons that raise
compression, stresses, Octane of fuel required (if you plan to fly floats,
100LL is hard to find at Marina's). etc., but it shouldn't raise the price
and if they are question it!

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Amendala <longpup@hotmail.com>
To: Murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <Murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 9:25 AM
Subject: Props/O-320

All,

We just ordered our engine (O-320, 160hp) from Aerosport power up in
Kamloops. I have heard nothing but good things about them. Anyway, with
all this talk about weight we are considering putting a wood/composit prop
on such as a Prince "P-tip". Has anyone put a Prince or similar prop on a
Rebel? Seems to save alot of weight and $$$$. Wood also handles harmonics
better than metal (i.e. Canard folks, long ez, cozy....etc). Just curious.

BB&R Amendala
Rebel 669

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[Ryan Amendala]

All,

We just ordered our engine (O-320, 160hp) from Aerosport power up in
Kamloops. I have heard nothing but good things about them. Anyway, with
all this talk about weight we are considering putting a wood/composit prop
on such as a Prince "P-tip". Has anyone put a Prince or similar prop on a
Rebel? Seems to save alot of weight and $$$$. Wood also handles harmonics
better than metal (i.e. Canard folks, long ez, cozy....etc). Just curious.

BB&R Amendala
Rebel 669

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[Bob Patterson]

There have been some problems with the Warp Drive composite props on
the 160 HP. - no problems on the 150 HP.

The only consideration with a wood prop is that you should make up
a cover for it - that lets air circulate, but blocks sunlight. The sun
will destroy the varnish and let moisture into the wood. We have replaced
several wood props before we went to a cover. I think this would also be
a GOOD IDEA for composite props - all composite gliders are painted white,
and kept out of the sun when possible ....

When parking your aircraft, with a wood prop, always keep the blades
horizontal. If they are vertical, water will run down to the lower blade
and be absorbed. This will throw the balance of the prop off, over time !!

....bobp

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At 02:25 PM 12/10/99 GMT, you wrote:

All,

We just ordered our engine (O-320, 160hp) from Aerosport power up in
Kamloops. I have heard nothing but good things about them. Anyway, with
all this talk about weight we are considering putting a wood/composit prop
on such as a Prince "P-tip". Has anyone put a Prince or similar prop on a
Rebel? Seems to save alot of weight and $$$$. Wood also handles harmonics
better than metal (i.e. Canard folks, long ez, cozy....etc). Just curious.

BB&R Amendala
Rebel 669

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

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Ryan, there is nothing else I can recommend for beefing the firewall, that
hasn't already been discussed in the "firewall warping" section of the
archives.

Wayne

P.S. Didn't realize you were in Washington State and wanted to fly in and
out of the glacier ponds!!! Maybe you need a Supercharged engine so you
always have that 160HP???? Could you fill the floats with helium??? Now
there's an idea!!!!!!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Amendala <longpup@hotmail.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Props/O-320

Wayne,

We have contimplated this for a while. We decided on the 160hp to get the
max power available for our Rebel (which we are putting on 1800 amphibs)
with the consideration of stress, fuel consumption..etc. On the long ez we
went with the 150hp for just those reasons, but we will not be flying out

of

Lakes with tall trees at 9000' with the long ez (although it would be

really

Cool!!). One thing that I did not consider is fuel availability at

Marinas!

Hopefully the amphib will help out here. Thanks for your help. This is
just another reminder of how much there is to learn about float flying!

On a side note, we have done the "beefing up" that MAM recommends for the
O-320 in the plane (channel ran across top 2 engine mounts for the

firewall,

gussets at the door posts..etc). Is there anything we are missing for the
firewall, it still seems very.. strength challenged for a 160hp engine!
Thanks again

BB&R Amendala
Rebel 669, Olympia, WA
Working on the fuse.


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com> (Murphy Rebel Builders List)
To: "Murphy Rebel Builders List" <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Props/O-320
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:18:33 -0500

Ryan, The only person I know, personally, that is running a Prince "P" tip
on a Lycoming is Keith Weston. He is President of the Collingwood Ontario
R.A.A. Chapter. To the best of my knowledge he is quite happy with the

prop.

(as he has flown it for some years now on a Zenith) I don't have an e-mail
for him but his phone number is 705-444-1422 if you want to get his honest
opinion! Are you sure you want to go 160 H.P. and not have them build it as
150?? The 160 H.P. is just a diffferent set of pistons that raise
compression, stresses, Octane of fuel required (if you plan to fly floats,
100LL is hard to find at Marina's). etc., but it shouldn't raise the price
and if they are question it!

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Amendala <longpup@hotmail.com>
To: Murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <Murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 9:25 AM
Subject: Props/O-320

All,

We just ordered our engine (O-320, 160hp) from Aerosport power up in
Kamloops. I have heard nothing but good things about them. Anyway, with
all this talk about weight we are considering putting a wood/composit

prop

on such as a Prince "P-tip". Has anyone put a Prince or similar prop on

a

Rebel? Seems to save alot of weight and $$$$. Wood also handles

harmonics

better than metal (i.e. Canard folks, long ez, cozy....etc). Just

curious.

BB&R Amendala
Rebel 669

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[Ryan Amendala]

Wayne,

We have contimplated this for a while. We decided on the 160hp to get the
max power available for our Rebel (which we are putting on 1800 amphibs)
with the consideration of stress, fuel consumption..etc. On the long ez we
went with the 150hp for just those reasons, but we will not be flying out of
Lakes with tall trees at 9000' with the long ez (although it would be really
Cool!!). One thing that I did not consider is fuel availability at Marinas!
Hopefully the amphib will help out here. Thanks for your help. This is
just another reminder of how much there is to learn about float flying!

On a side note, we have done the "beefing up" that MAM recommends for the
O-320 in the plane (channel ran across top 2 engine mounts for the firewall,
gussets at the door posts..etc). Is there anything we are missing for the
firewall, it still seems very.. strength challenged for a 160hp engine!
Thanks again

BB&R Amendala
Rebel 669, Olympia, WA
Working on the fuse.


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com> (Murphy Rebel Builders List)
To: "Murphy Rebel Builders List" <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Props/O-320
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:18:33 -0500

Ryan, The only person I know, personally, that is running a Prince "P" tip
on a Lycoming is Keith Weston. He is President of the Collingwood Ontario
R.A.A. Chapter. To the best of my knowledge he is quite happy with the prop.
(as he has flown it for some years now on a Zenith) I don't have an e-mail
for him but his phone number is 705-444-1422 if you want to get his honest
opinion! Are you sure you want to go 160 H.P. and not have them build it as
150?? The 160 H.P. is just a diffferent set of pistons that raise
compression, stresses, Octane of fuel required (if you plan to fly floats,
100LL is hard to find at Marina's). etc., but it shouldn't raise the price
and if they are question it!

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Amendala <longpup@hotmail.com>
To: Murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <Murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 9:25 AM
Subject: Props/O-320

All,

We just ordered our engine (O-320, 160hp) from Aerosport power up in
Kamloops. I have heard nothing but good things about them. Anyway, with
all this talk about weight we are considering putting a wood/composit prop
on such as a Prince "P-tip". Has anyone put a Prince or similar prop on a
Rebel? Seems to save alot of weight and $$$$. Wood also handles

harmonics

better than metal (i.e. Canard folks, long ez, cozy....etc). Just

curious.

BB&R Amendala
Rebel 669

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