Warp Drive hub

Phil Stubley · Post by **Phil Stubley** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:22 am

Hi Clay,

I have been flying behind a 4blade Warp drive for 5 years, (not many hours
though) and don't know what the Braking effect is either. Sounds like
whoever had that sensation had the angle set too fine. Great for takeoff
but lousy cruise. I get 107 mph cruise and great performance off the
ground.

I originally intended to be on floats and that is what Warp recommended at
the time, long before anybody was using the 3 blade prop on big engines.
When Jack Wieb got the OK from Warp to use his 3 blade on a 160 hp lyc I was
surprised and questioned them several timesa as to whether I had the right
prop. They assured me it was right, and I haven't had any problem or
dissatifaction with it.

Phil.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Smith" <cbsmith@nf.sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Warp Drive hub

Hi Del,
I don't think that I'm going to fly with the 4 blade now that I hear about
this "braking" effect that everyone is talking about and I'm still nervous
about using the 3 blade on my 0320. I'll just use the 4 blade for ground
start up and testing ... I guess I'm just going to have to make a

decision

sooner than later on type of prop to buy.

Thanks,
Clay

----- Original Message -----
From: <del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: Warp Drive hub

Clay:

I should have also mentioned/reminded that you wouldn't need to buy a
whole
new prop from Warp just buy the 3 blade hub for a couple of hundred
dollars,
and use the existing blades.

I noticed that I wrote break which should have been "brake" and the

surges

that I was referring to were airborne and really quite evident.

Thank You,

Del Schmucker
Information Systems Manager
Keewatin-Patricia District School Board
807-223-1254
807-221-8769 Cell
807-223-4703 Fax
del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca
www.kpdsb.on.ca

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del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:59 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Warp Drive hub

Clay:

I had used the 4-blade on my Subaru( 160HP) Rebel and found that it was
really just to much prop. It would jump off land and accelerate like a
sports car but top end speed was slow and the prop really acted as a
break.
It was quite easy to feel both acceleration and deceleration surges just
by
playing with the throttle. I used the same Warp drive blades and just
changed the hub to a 3 blade hub, and am quite happy with the prop.

I have only flown a little bit on floats yet but don't really think I

will

even have to adjust the pitch to go from ski's/wheels to floats.

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:22 am

Hey, Bob, not sure if it will last for another month, but just
got back from the lake, where we had another 35 C day (95 F).
Never thought I would ever think it, but I am actually looking
forward to cooler weather. We have had a very warm summer so far
here on the coast. If you're coming out here, let me know and we
should meet up again. Just got another Rebel amphib (Julius) here
flying a couple days ago.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:51 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Warp Drive hub

Hi Bill !

Don't tempt me ! ;-) I'm easily led astray !!! :-)

Lots of stuff to do for a while - might fly out to BC
next month
to get my amphibs on .... but a side trip south in
the middle of our
delightful Canadian winter ..... welllllllll .......
:-) :-)

We might see you then !! :-)

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 09 August 2004 11:17 am, Bill Delcambre wrote:
Hey Bob,

If you really enjoy warm Wx, take a hop down
here, to Louisiana. Great
place to visit in August if ya like it warm.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Warp Drive hub

Hi Clay !

Sounds like you'll have to use a spacer with the
W-D prop - usually,
they are in the 1.5 - 2" thickness range. If you
find one like that, it
won't

hurt to use it - some folks believe the prop works
better if farther away
from the cowling....

Overall, though, the Prince sounds like a better bet.

We've hardly had summer here - spring was cold &
wet, with several
floods - and now fall is coming !! :-( REALLY
enjoyed a couple of
HOT days at Oshkosh, though - mid 80's with a
breeze - THAT felt GOOD !!!
......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 08 August 2004 11:11 am, Clay Smith wrote:
I borrowed the prop
from.

until I could make up my
mind

on the Prince prop last
year

weight (no dampener needed
for

and wheel operation due
to

to at least one of our
rebel

to hear from you that
Maybe I'll call
hot out here!
the Subaru, was it ???
Prince prop - it's a wood
core

for floats. The big
and it 'sort-of'
than a Sensenich, at over
20

seem strange after
regular

68 x 35 ??? - can't
Aircraft, at your usual
LESS than a Sensenich
!!).

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
Drive today and found
out

diameter than the 3 blade hub
by

Apparently Warp Drive is now
engine. A guy flying
didn't perform well on
so

blade so it's very possible
is off a Tri-pacer and
it

through. If you did that
you'd

clearer ... I'm using
which makes it stick out
common starters). Therefore
I

install the 4-blade hub
the

blades into the hub (ther
are

forward end of the
install a 1/2 " prop
had my set-up ( 0320,
old

the problem with his
3 blade hub is smaller
in

use this prop for awhile
sounds to me like you'll
have

nosebowl to the engine.
1/4 spacing is, as the
do understand
back form the inside of
the

offending piece on the
overused and understated
and keep us posted. Curt
still running my 3 blade
warp,

recomended by the factory
I

that research. Curt
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Jerry Purdom · Post by **Jerry Purdom** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:22 am

Hi Clay

I have also been flying behind a 4 blade Warp prop on Edo 2000 floats for
over 400 hrs don't know anything about this braking effect either. It's
been good for me,quick of the water and cruise at 105 mph at 2400.

THANKS
jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Stubley" <phil.stubley@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Warp Drive hub

Hi Clay,

I have been flying behind a 4blade Warp drive for 5 years, (not many hours
though) and don't know what the Braking effect is either. Sounds like
whoever had that sensation had the angle set too fine. Great for takeoff
but lousy cruise. I get 107 mph cruise and great performance off the
ground.

I originally intended to be on floats and that is what Warp recommended at
the time, long before anybody was using the 3 blade prop on big engines.
When Jack Wieb got the OK from Warp to use his 3 blade on a 160 hp lyc I

was

surprised and questioned them several timesa as to whether I had the right
prop. They assured me it was right, and I haven't had any problem or
dissatifaction with it.

Phil.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Smith" <cbsmith@nf.sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Warp Drive hub

Hi Del,
I don't think that I'm going to fly with the 4 blade now that I hear

about

this "braking" effect that everyone is talking about and I'm still

nervous

about using the 3 blade on my 0320. I'll just use the 4 blade for

ground

start up and testing ... I guess I'm just going to have to make a
decision
sooner than later on type of prop to buy.

Thanks,
Clay

----- Original Message -----
From: <del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: Warp Drive hub

Clay:

I should have also mentioned/reminded that you wouldn't need to buy a
whole
new prop from Warp just buy the 3 blade hub for a couple of hundred
dollars,
and use the existing blades.

I noticed that I wrote break which should have been "brake" and the
surges
that I was referring to were airborne and really quite evident.

Thank You,

Del Schmucker
Information Systems Manager
Keewatin-Patricia District School Board
807-223-1254
807-221-8769 Cell
807-223-4703 Fax
del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca
www.kpdsb.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
del.schmucker@kpdsb.on.ca
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:59 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Warp Drive hub

Clay:

I had used the 4-blade on my Subaru( 160HP) Rebel and found that it

was

really just to much prop. It would jump off land and accelerate like

a

sports car but top end speed was slow and the prop really acted as a
break.
It was quite easy to feel both acceleration and deceleration surges

just

by
playing with the throttle. I used the same Warp drive blades and just
changed the hub to a 3 blade hub, and am quite happy with the prop.

I have only flown a little bit on floats yet but don't really think I
will
even have to adjust the pitch to go from ski's/wheels to floats.

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