Primer Fittings

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Yes Clay, they are just soldered on. No different than plumbing a house with
copper pipe!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Smith" <cbsmith@nf.sympatico.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Primer Fittings

Thanks Wayne, before ordering the proper fittings from ACS (too bad you
don't have any) I'll try the compression fittings as you suggested. Tell

me

... are those AN cones soldered to the tubing before tightened into place?
Would they solder OK to the copper tubing?

Thanks
Clay

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Primer Fittings

Clay, had a look through my stuff and unfortunately don't have any
AN800/805-2's! 100's of -3's but no -2's :o( !

I had a really close look at the old spray primer nozzles and their tube
seating area and a matching nut versus a new $1.99 CTC brass compression
tube to npt nipple and the sealing surfaces (and mating thread) are

close

enough that if you bought a pack of sleeves and nuts (or any fitting
assembly to steal same from) pretty sure they would do the trick for you

and

hold everything tightly and leak free.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Primer Fittings

Clay, if you have the original spray style nozzles you most likely

need

the

cone and matching nut since the sealing surface shape is not the same

as

a

compression fittings face. You can just use an 1/8" NPT compression

nipple

for the primers, but if you already have the proper spray style (with

the

little tube coming out of them) all the better and you should match up

the

connection properly.

Pretty sure I have a box of the AN800's but not sure about the nuts.

Will

have a look shortly and let you know.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Smith" <cbsmith@nf.sympatico.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:11 PM
Subject: Primer Fittings

my

these

cone,

union

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[Rebel599r]

dont know a lot about plumbing as this is my first time building.and i
haven't done any thing fire wall forwerd yet. but i would be afraid of a solder
joint incace of a fire it may come apart!



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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Clay, had a look through my stuff and unfortunately don't have any
AN800/805-2's! 100's of -3's but no -2's :o( !

I had a really close look at the old spray primer nozzles and their tube
seating area and a matching nut versus a new $1.99 CTC brass compression
tube to npt nipple and the sealing surfaces (and mating thread) are close
enough that if you bought a pack of sleeves and nuts (or any fitting
assembly to steal same from) pretty sure they would do the trick for you and
hold everything tightly and leak free.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Primer Fittings

Clay, if you have the original spray style nozzles you most likely need

the

cone and matching nut since the sealing surface shape is not the same as a
compression fittings face. You can just use an 1/8" NPT compression nipple
for the primers, but if you already have the proper spray style (with the
little tube coming out of them) all the better and you should match up the
connection properly.

Pretty sure I have a box of the AN800's but not sure about the nuts. Will
have a look shortly and let you know.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Smith" <cbsmith@nf.sympatico.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:11 PM
Subject: Primer Fittings

Hi Guys,
I'm trying to hook-up my 1/8 copper line to the discharge nipples on my
0320. I believe I need a 5/16-32 thread nut and sleeve to go with these
nipples. Should I order the solder-on type fittings ( AN800 union cone,
AN805-2 union nut)? Any problem soldering the copper tubing to this

union

cone? Is there a compression fitting available for that nipple?

Thanks again,
Clay

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[Clay Smith]

Hi Guys,
I'm trying to hook-up my 1/8 copper line to the discharge nipples on my
0320. I believe I need a 5/16-32 thread nut and sleeve to go with these
nipples. Should I order the solder-on type fittings ( AN800 union cone,
AN805-2 union nut)? Any problem soldering the copper tubing to this union
cone? Is there a compression fitting available for that nipple?

Thanks again,
Clay



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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Clay, if you have the original spray style nozzles you most likely need the
cone and matching nut since the sealing surface shape is not the same as a
compression fittings face. You can just use an 1/8" NPT compression nipple
for the primers, but if you already have the proper spray style (with the
little tube coming out of them) all the better and you should match up the
connection properly.

Pretty sure I have a box of the AN800's but not sure about the nuts. Will
have a look shortly and let you know.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Smith" <cbsmith@nf.sympatico.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:11 PM
Subject: Primer Fittings

Hi Guys,
I'm trying to hook-up my 1/8 copper line to the discharge nipples on my
0320. I believe I need a 5/16-32 thread nut and sleeve to go with these
nipples. Should I order the solder-on type fittings ( AN800 union cone,
AN805-2 union nut)? Any problem soldering the copper tubing to this union
cone? Is there a compression fitting available for that nipple?

Thanks again,
Clay

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[Clay Smith]

Thanks Wayne, before ordering the proper fittings from ACS (too bad you
don't have any) I'll try the compression fittings as you suggested. Tell me
... are those AN cones soldered to the tubing before tightened into place?
Would they solder OK to the copper tubing?

Thanks
Clay

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Primer Fittings

Clay, had a look through my stuff and unfortunately don't have any
AN800/805-2's! 100's of -3's but no -2's :o( !

I had a really close look at the old spray primer nozzles and their tube
seating area and a matching nut versus a new $1.99 CTC brass compression
tube to npt nipple and the sealing surfaces (and mating thread) are close
enough that if you bought a pack of sleeves and nuts (or any fitting
assembly to steal same from) pretty sure they would do the trick for you

and

hold everything tightly and leak free.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Primer Fittings

Clay, if you have the original spray style nozzles you most likely need

the

cone and matching nut since the sealing surface shape is not the same as

a

compression fittings face. You can just use an 1/8" NPT compression

nipple

for the primers, but if you already have the proper spray style (with

the

little tube coming out of them) all the better and you should match up

the

connection properly.

Pretty sure I have a box of the AN800's but not sure about the nuts.

Will

have a look shortly and let you know.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Smith" <cbsmith@nf.sympatico.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:11 PM
Subject: Primer Fittings

Hi Guys,
I'm trying to hook-up my 1/8 copper line to the discharge nipples on

my

0320. I believe I need a 5/16-32 thread nut and sleeve to go with

these

nipples. Should I order the solder-on type fittings ( AN800 union

cone,

AN805-2 union nut)? Any problem soldering the copper tubing to this

union

cone? Is there a compression fitting available for that nipple?

Thanks again,
Clay

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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

It's the way they've been done for a 100 years! Do you have any other way to
put an AN800 end sleeve onto a copper tube? They're not flare fittings and
the only option is to push the tube into the AN800 end and solder in place.
In reality compression fittings aren't to be used on an airplane, but we
sneak the odd one in here and there!

Besides I can't see the fire getting that severe to cause the solder to come
loose/melt and also consider the fact that this fitting is screwed into the
fire source that makes the engine run and the primer lines don't catch
fire/melt. IF the fire is really that hot, a primer line coming loose is
your least worry!

Cheers,
Wayne


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To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Primer Fittings

dont know a lot about plumbing as this is my first time building.and i
haven't done any thing fire wall forwerd yet. but i would be afraid of a

solder

joint incace of a fire it may come apart!

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