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[rebel-builders] Elite Instrument Panel - Dynon

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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Elite Instrument Panel - Dynon

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:07 pm

Looks good Eric ! Very tidy !!! Your Elite is now part of the web site
slide show - look forward to featuring it again when it's painted.....

It'd be nice if those Elite drivers who complained about possible lack of
representation for Elites would send even ONE picture of THEIRS !
I don't have any new ones ...

Looking down in the bottom left of the picture, I think I see a
possible problem -- although it might be just my eyes, or the picture....
I'm looking at that ball end on the pushrod coming out of the control
stick - it doesn't seem to have penny washers on both sides ....

It is a "Really GOOD idea"(tm) to put penny washers on each side
of ALL ball ends on pushrods - especially for ailerons & flaps ....
In a few years, if that ball wears, it might just pop out - and right
off the bolt !! That can spoil your afternoon .....
The penny washers keep the rod captive, even if the ball fails ....

Just a thought .... hope it helps avoid some trouble !

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.prosumers.ca/Ramble09

http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

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On Sunday 30 November 2008 01:02, Eric Fogelin wrote:
I posted pictures of my Elite amphib panel in the Elite Instrument Panel
section. Also shows the center console for the hydraulic selector, etc.

We have similar layouts. I went for the separate Dynon D100 and D120 as
there are 2 pilots in the household and you can switch EFIS and EMS
screens between the units. Flying pilot just switches the screens to have
full flying display in front of them.

Less expensive to go with the D180 and a bit less weight. But, the Dynon
units weigh so little, it doesn't really matter. One Dynon unit weighs
about the same or less than a turn and bank, but includes every flight
instrument imaginable.

I also have not installed a backup ASI or Altimeter and I certified my
amphib for VFR and IFR. Unlike a certified aircraft which must meet the
requirements of Part 23 (in the US), homebuilts need only comply with
91.205. It is up to the builder to decide what they feel is safe.

I plan on using mine to pop through the thin West Coast marine layers that
we have so that I can fly to/from beautiful sunny and warm lakes inland.

Right now, I'm still in my 40 hour test phase and learning to become
friends with a glass cockpit. I've gotten mighty used to old steam gauges
and the transition to speed and altitude tapes is a bit of work. Engine
gauges with digital numbers are not intuitive like needles. The Dynon
units include needles and numbers, but I still have to think when I look
at the screens. And I'm a computer geek.

Lots of fun.

Eric
Elite Amphib 645E



-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
james.smith@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:27 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel Instrument Panel - Dynon D180

I have posted a picture of my instrument panel under the Rebel Instrument
Panel section of files if anyone is interested in what the Dynon D180
would look like in a Rebel. I am using the D180 which is the combined
EFIS and EMS
system. Also have panel mounted Garmin 196/496 series GPS and Terra Com
and Transponder. Decided against backup ASI and Altimeter although there
is room to add 2 1/4 gauges under the Dynon at a later date if desired.
The

garmin, radios and Throttle are deadcenter of the panel. Now that the
rough

cut is finished, we'll take apart to prime, paint and label. Panel will
be a light
gray interior color.

Anyway, just my take on a lightweight, new age panel.

James Smith
Rebel 424R



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Eric Fogelin

[rebel-builders] Elite Instrument Panel - Dynon

Post by Eric Fogelin » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:07 pm

Good spot on the penny washer. You are correct, it is missing on this ball
end. Penny washers are in place on rod ends elsewhere on the plane.

This particular rod end should be okay without. I'm not sure if this is a
unique problem on the Elite, but this rod end has interference problems. If
installed per the manual, the rod end hits the bell crank arm and causes
rotation in the rod threads; a definite long term wear problem as the steel
rod end threads turn in the aluminum push tube end.

A bushing is needed to raise the ball slightly above the bell crank arm so
there is no interference. A penny washer might be okay on top now, so I'll
double check.

I'll work on that paint job in February.

Thanks,

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:25 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Elite Instrument Panel - Dynon


Looks good Eric ! Very tidy !!! Your Elite is now part of the web
site
slide show - look forward to featuring it again when it's painted.....

It'd be nice if those Elite drivers who complained about possible lack of
representation for Elites would send even ONE picture of THEIRS !
I don't have any new ones ...

Looking down in the bottom left of the picture, I think I see a
possible problem -- although it might be just my eyes, or the picture....
I'm looking at that ball end on the pushrod coming out of the control
stick - it doesn't seem to have penny washers on both sides ....

It is a "Really GOOD idea"(tm) to put penny washers on each side
of ALL ball ends on pushrods - especially for ailerons & flaps ....
In a few years, if that ball wears, it might just pop out - and right
off the bolt !! That can spoil your afternoon .....
The penny washers keep the rod captive, even if the ball fails ....

Just a thought .... hope it helps avoid some trouble !

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.prosumers.ca/Ramble09

http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 30 November 2008 01:02, Eric Fogelin wrote:
I posted pictures of my Elite amphib panel in the Elite Instrument Panel
section. Also shows the center console for the hydraulic selector, etc.

We have similar layouts. I went for the separate Dynon D100 and D120 as
there are 2 pilots in the household and you can switch EFIS and EMS
screens between the units. Flying pilot just switches the screens to have
full flying display in front of them.

Less expensive to go with the D180 and a bit less weight. But, the Dynon
units weigh so little, it doesn't really matter. One Dynon unit weighs
about the same or less than a turn and bank, but includes every flight
instrument imaginable.

I also have not installed a backup ASI or Altimeter and I certified my
amphib for VFR and IFR. Unlike a certified aircraft which must meet the
requirements of Part 23 (in the US), homebuilts need only comply with
91.205. It is up to the builder to decide what they feel is safe.

I plan on using mine to pop through the thin West Coast marine layers that
we have so that I can fly to/from beautiful sunny and warm lakes inland.

Right now, I'm still in my 40 hour test phase and learning to become
friends with a glass cockpit. I've gotten mighty used to old steam gauges
and the transition to speed and altitude tapes is a bit of work. Engine
gauges with digital numbers are not intuitive like needles. The Dynon
units include needles and numbers, but I still have to think when I look
at the screens. And I'm a computer geek.

Lots of fun.

Eric
Elite Amphib 645E



-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
james.smith@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:27 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel Instrument Panel - Dynon D180

I have posted a picture of my instrument panel under the Rebel Instrument
Panel section of files if anyone is interested in what the Dynon D180
would look like in a Rebel. I am using the D180 which is the combined
EFIS and EMS
system. Also have panel mounted Garmin 196/496 series GPS and Terra Com
and Transponder. Decided against backup ASI and Altimeter although there
is room to add 2 1/4 gauges under the Dynon at a later date if desired.
The

garmin, radios and Throttle are deadcenter of the panel. Now that the
rough

cut is finished, we'll take apart to prime, paint and label. Panel will
be a light
gray interior color.

Anyway, just my take on a lightweight, new age panel.

James Smith
Rebel 424R



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