Prop for Rebel/Exhaust

steve whitenect · Post by **steve whitenect** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they only
recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at $240 for
150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props (pitch and
diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of the Prince but
very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

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Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Hi Steve !

The Warp Drive is not a good idea on a Lyc. anyway - and you
wouldn't believe the drag from the 4 blade on approach !

The Prince is only about $2,200, I believe, not much more than
the WD, and a lot less than a Sensenich. The Sensenich is the next
best prop - bites better than McCauley.... but they are about $2,600+ !
The recommended general purpose Sensenich is 74 x 54 .... 56 for cruise,
and 52 for climb. This was the most popular choice, until the Prince.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 02:44 pm, steve whitenect wrote:

Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they
only recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at
$240 for 150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props
(pitch and diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of
the Prince but very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

PS to Alvin, ordered my Aircraft Exhaust Tech. system today 5-6 week lag.
Price from Murphy was around $1500 cdn. Shud have mine for $1400. cdn
with two mufflers

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steve whitenect · Post by **steve whitenect** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Thanks Bob
I'd go after a used Sensenich but didn't want the weight. Was that 2200 "us"
for the Prince? The Warp Drive I had on an 0-235C1 was great and smooth as
silk. Very disappointed I can't use one but now not recommended by WD.

Steve W.

From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:59:24 -0500

Hi Steve !

The Warp Drive is not a good idea on a Lyc. anyway - and you
wouldn't believe the drag from the 4 blade on approach !

The Prince is only about $2,200, I believe, not much more than
the WD, and a lot less than a Sensenich. The Sensenich is the next
best prop - bites better than McCauley.... but they are about $2,600+ !
The recommended general purpose Sensenich is 74 x 54 .... 56 for cruise,
and 52 for climb. This was the most popular choice, until the Prince.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 02:44 pm, steve whitenect wrote:
Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they
only recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at
$240 for 150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props
(pitch and diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of
the Prince but very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

PS to Alvin, ordered my Aircraft Exhaust Tech. system today 5-6 week
lag.
Price from Murphy was around $1500 cdn. Shud have mine for $1400. cdn
with two mufflers

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

I use the 74X54 Sensenich on floats with the 150 hp 0320. That gives me 2720
rpm WOT straight and level. If on wheels, I would go 74X56 or 58. The 160 hp
moves all these pitches up by 2.

Walter

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Patterson
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust

Hi Steve !

The Warp Drive is not a good idea on a Lyc. anyway - and you
wouldn't believe the drag from the 4 blade on approach !

The Prince is only about $2,200, I believe, not much more than
the WD, and a lot less than a Sensenich. The Sensenich is the next
best prop - bites better than McCauley.... but they are about $2,600+ !
The recommended general purpose Sensenich is 74 x 54 .... 56 for cruise,
and 52 for climb. This was the most popular choice, until the Prince.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 02:44 pm, steve whitenect wrote:

Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they
only recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at
$240 for 150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props
(pitch and diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of
the Prince but very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

PS to Alvin, ordered my Aircraft Exhaust Tech. system today 5-6 week lag.
Price from Murphy was around $1500 cdn. Shud have mine for $1400. cdn
with two mufflers

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

I used the 3 blade 72 WD on mine for a while both on wheels and floats. It
performed very well actually, and didn't have any collar cracking. For some
reason, some engines are fine, others are not.

Walter

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of steve
whitenect
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust

Thanks Bob
I'd go after a used Sensenich but didn't want the weight. Was that 2200 "us"

for the Prince? The Warp Drive I had on an 0-235C1 was great and smooth as
silk. Very disappointed I can't use one but now not recommended by WD.

Steve W.

From: Bob Patterson <beep@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:59:24 -0500

Hi Steve !

The Warp Drive is not a good idea on a Lyc. anyway - and you
wouldn't believe the drag from the 4 blade on approach !

The Prince is only about $2,200, I believe, not much more than
the WD, and a lot less than a Sensenich. The Sensenich is the next
best prop - bites better than McCauley.... but they are about $2,600+ !
The recommended general purpose Sensenich is 74 x 54 .... 56 for cruise,
and 52 for climb. This was the most popular choice, until the Prince.

.....bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 26 January 2006 02:44 pm, steve whitenect wrote:
Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they
only recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at
$240 for 150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props
(pitch and diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of
the Prince but very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

PS to Alvin, ordered my Aircraft Exhaust Tech. system today 5-6 week
lag.
Price from Murphy was around $1500 cdn. Shud have mine for $1400. cdn
with two mufflers

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Rebflyer · Post by **Rebflyer** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Well Steve,
If you really want a 4 blade Warp drive for your 0-320 mine will be for
sale in the spring. You won't beat the deal!!! E- mail me off site.
_Rebflyer@aol.com_ (mailto:Rebflyer@aol.com) Curt N97MR

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

..Heck... I didn't even think they'd sell a warp for a lycoming anymore.
Guess things have changed again. I don't like the 4 blade...but there are a
few in the field. I'm still flying successfully behind my 3 blade 70"
diameter. Most everyone I know had aluminum "overmoulding" problems at the
root of the blade where it clamps...and these are all 72" props. I seem to
be the oddball (as usual) with a shorter prop and 10 + years of flawless
performance from mine.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "steve whitenect" <srwhitenect@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust

Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they

only

recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at $240 for
150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props (pitch and
diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of the Prince

but

very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

PS to Alvin, ordered my Aircraft Exhaust Tech. system today 5-6 week lag.
Price from Murphy was around $1500 cdn. Shud have mine for $1400. cdn with
two mufflers

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steve whitenect · Post by **steve whitenect** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Wayne
I understand that the cracking at the end of the collar is nothing as long
as the crack doesn't continue under the hub for a great distance. The only
other problem that did concern me was the collar moving inside the hub on
the older models. Some time ago I consulted a buddy that knew composites and
his opinion about was if the fiber ran continuous from the butt end out to
the blade end and back, there wasn't an engine u could mount in on that
would shed the blade from the hub. Think the higher compression engines are
the ones that had problems. IVO won't sell for any Lycs but get this, they
will sell a prop for a Franklyn engine with the high compresseion pistons-
somewheres around the 9.75 range. Go figure.

Steve W.

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:08:46 -0500

..Heck... I didn't even think they'd sell a warp for a lycoming anymore.
Guess things have changed again. I don't like the 4 blade...but there are a
few in the field. I'm still flying successfully behind my 3 blade 70"
diameter. Most everyone I know had aluminum "overmoulding" problems at the
root of the blade where it clamps...and these are all 72" props. I seem to
be the oddball (as usual) with a shorter prop and 10 + years of flawless
performance from mine.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "steve whitenect" <srwhitenect@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust

Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they
only
recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at $240
for
150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props (pitch and
diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of the Prince
but
very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

PS to Alvin, ordered my Aircraft Exhaust Tech. system today 5-6 week
lag.
Price from Murphy was around $1500 cdn. Shud have mine for $1400. cdn
with
two mufflers

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Keith Leitch · Post by **Keith Leitch** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Curt,
Were you at New holstien with your Rebel? And does it
have a Subaru engine?

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Well Steve,
If you really want a 4 blade Warp drive for your
0-320 mine will be for
sale in the spring. You won't beat the deal!!! E-
mail me off site.
_Rebflyer@aol.com_ (mailto:Rebflyer@aol.com) Curt
N97MR

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steve whitenect · Post by **steve whitenect** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Hi Curt
Tried to get u off line but comes back as message failure. Try me at
srwhitenect@hotmail.com

Steve

From: Rebflyer@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:30:21 EST

Well Steve,
If you really want a 4 blade Warp drive for your 0-320 mine will be
for
sale in the spring. You won't beat the deal!!! E- mail me off site.
_Rebflyer@aol.com_ (mailto:Rebflyer@aol.com) Curt N97MR

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Bruce Georgen · Post by **Bruce Georgen** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Steve,

I started with a Sensenich 74x56 on wheels and worked great with 150 HP 0320. When I went to floats It was wanting, so I re-pitched it to 54 and found 100 more RPM on take off. I would investigate the Prince Prop for weight and performance if I was building today, but don't think you would be disapointed with the Sensenich.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----

From: steve whitenect <srwhitenect@hotmail.com>
Sent: Jan 26, 2006 2:44 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust

Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they only
recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at $240 for
150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props (pitch and
diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of the Prince but
very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

PS to Alvin, ordered my Aircraft Exhaust Tech. system today 5-6 week lag.
Price from Murphy was around $1500 cdn. Shud have mine for $1400. cdn with
two mufflers

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steve whitenect · Post by **steve whitenect** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Thanks Bruce
Am already looking for a used Sensenich 74-56!

Steve W #637R

From: Bruce Georgen <bgeorgen@peoplepc.com>
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Subject: Re: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:27:32 -0500 (EST)

Steve,

I started with a Sensenich 74x56 on wheels and worked great with 150 HP
0320. When I went to floats It was wanting, so I re-pitched it to 54 and
found 100 more RPM on take off. I would investigate the Prince Prop for
weight and performance if I was building today, but don't think you would
be disapointed with the Sensenich.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: steve whitenect <srwhitenect@hotmail.com>
Sent: Jan 26, 2006 2:44 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Prop for Rebel/Exhaust

Just got off the phone with Warp Drive and have been advised that they
only
recomend the four blade setup for a tune of $1380 plus spinner at $240
for
150 hp Lyc.. What are the majority swinging with metal props (pitch and
diameter) on wheels for cruise/climb? See the advantages of the Prince
but
very pricey.

Steve W. #637R

PS to Alvin, ordered my Aircraft Exhaust Tech. system today 5-6 week lag.
Price from Murphy was around $1500 cdn. Shud have mine for $1400. cdn
with
two mufflers

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Rebflyer · Post by **Rebflyer** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm

No, that wasn't me. I'm running a 0-320 Curt N97MR

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