clones is that they are LESS expensive than some rebuilt O-320's !
At least, in this area .... Also, the Superior cylinders are much better
than the Lyc's - more meat in the exhaust valve area, and better flow -
all in all, a better engine, and BRAND-NEW, for less money !
(assuming you don't go wild with the extras - I'm with you, one LSE
would likely give most advantages, with least cost - plus the safety
of flying home on the mag if the battery dies. ;-) )
Radials look romantic, but they have their eccentricities, too ! ;-)
(Don't forget to pull it through 10 blades before starting ... )
Will be interesting to see the real weight, power, and accessories.
Of course, I'm still a BIG fan of the Rotax 912 - my next Rebel
will be a 912-S ...... I'm even thinking about selling the complete
FWF from this one & replacing it with a 912-S .... should have some
money left over, and better fuel economy, for giving up 8 mph of
cruise - think I can live with that ! ;-) :-)
......bobp
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On Friday 26 August 2005 12:55 pm, bransom@dcsol.com wrote:
rebuildThis will develop some serious cash outlay in addition to the 195hp. I'm
thinking much of the first paragraph tricks could be done to an 0-320
-and still have some coins in the bottom of my piggy bank (for gas! :) ). I
forget the particulars on LSE ignition -- there is single side and full dual
off- but the single side gets most of the benefit (weight, fuel, power) and is
~$1k+ (?) cheaper than the full dual LSE.
Then too that R-263 even if "just" 125hp, but with its predicted very low
weight makes me weak in the knees. Too bad with 5 cylinders it can't use
the shelf electronic ignition.
Like you say Bob, nice to enjoy fussing over engine selection after all the
fuss to pick out the airplane.
-Ben
balanced,Hi Bill !
It is indeed possible to put an XP-360 or similar, with lightweight
accessories - like custom carbon-fiber intake manifold, dual electronic
ignition, lightweight starter & alternator(s), polished, ported, andcowl,with a lightweight Prince, carbon-fiber coated, wood prop, custom 4 doorit !... and a "glass panel" - into a Rebel !
At this point, there is NO problem with C of G being too forward -
in fact, on paper, this IO-360 is lighter than my O-320, FWF ! And
should develop something like 195 hp ... :-)
I'll have more to say in a few weeks, when the paperwork comes
through, and I can fly this beast ! :-) Should be VERY exciting !
<IF> this works out, it could well become the new standard setup for
"the ultimate floatplane" ! :-)
The really nice thing about the Rebel is - you don't have to decide
on an engine until you're almost ready to fly ! You could build it with
an economical, inexpensive, reliable engine like the Rotax 912, fly for
a few years, then upgrade to an O-360 later, if you decide you want/needSeveral people at Oshkosh wanted to do the opposite, so, later, they could
fit into the Sport Class if medical problems appeared....
Either way, it's a great airplane ! :-)
.....bobp
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On Thursday 25 August 2005 08:15 pm, Bill Wagner wrote:Thanks a bunch, guys, for your advice about Rebel vs. Elite, spring gear
vs. non-, and Murphy vs. RV. There's lots for me to chew about.
So is it indeed possible to put one of the "lightweight" O-360 clones on
a Rebel, or is that just a bad idea & I should stick to an O-320 if I
want to run amphibs one day?
Bill
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