Questions on Ron's Moose in AK

Ted Waltman · Post by **Ted Waltman** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:50 am

Folks

Looking at pictures of Ron's plane on wheels, (
<http://www.murphymoosealaska.com/Plane.html>
http://www.murphymoosealaska.com/Plane.html ), I see that he says, " 33
inch tundra tires available with 6.00 by 6 tundra tailwheel."

I talked to another Moose owner at Oshkosh who expressed caution about
putting larger tires on the Moose, something or other about the gear not
being designed for the larger moment arm that such would create,
especially in a rough or off-field landing. Does anyone have any
insight into this comment?

Also, I'm curious if anyone on the list know's what type (make/model) of
tailwheel he is referring to (perhaps the AK Bushwheel one at
http://www.akbushwheel.com/TundraTailwheel.html )? It's hard to tell
from the picture on his website what the tailwheel make/model is.

Ted

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Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:50 am

Hi Ted !

I would agree with the fellow you spoke to - the larger diameter tires
will certainly lengthen the arm of the gear legs, and greatly increase the
load on the gear in braking. If you dig through the archives, you will
find a lot of discussion about this ---- generally decided it was not a
good idea without major gear beef-ups (which are probably a good idea
anyway !)

Not sure about the tailwheel, but it might be the fatter option that
Murphy offered - basically, the nosewheel from the Elite, a 5.00 x 5,
in a custom fork. That one seemed to work ok ....

............bobp

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On Thursday 09 December 2004 07:11 pm, Ted Waltman wrote:

Folks

Looking at pictures of Ron's plane on wheels, (
<http://www.murphymoosealaska.com/Plane.html>
http://www.murphymoosealaska.com/Plane.html ), I see that he says, " 33
inch tundra tires available with 6.00 by 6 tundra tailwheel."

I talked to another Moose owner at Oshkosh who expressed caution about
putting larger tires on the Moose, something or other about the gear not
being designed for the larger moment arm that such would create,
especially in a rough or off-field landing. Does anyone have any
insight into this comment?

Also, I'm curious if anyone on the list know's what type (make/model) of
tailwheel he is referring to (perhaps the AK Bushwheel one at
http://www.akbushwheel.com/TundraTailwheel.html )? It's hard to tell
from the picture on his website what the tailwheel make/model is.

Ted

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:50 am

MAM did those big truck tires/rims and I'm told it really got the gear
legs/box/door posts moving! These gave the idea/look of big tires to avoid
pot holes..but didn't do anything for shock absorption like a set of
"bushwheels" would. I've put a fair amount of thought into gear box mods and
leg clamps (that I've shared at Ontario Builders meetings)... and other
landing gear adaptations to get rid of the leaf gear all together... but
since I'm not working on my Moose this winter it will be awhile before that
all becomes something worthy of pictures or talking about.

If you want to go big tires without as much airframe shock
transition...Bushwheels has a new 35" tire for the Beaver's weight and 10"
wheels. Only about $4450us/pair (deal right now with free shipping also!

). They also have 31 inchers for the Supercub (or Rebel !!) on 6"
wheels..but they don't have a high enough weight rating for a Moose (and are
about $3300/pr). http://akbushwheel.com/

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>
To: "Murphy List" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: Questions on Ron's Moose in AK

Folks

Looking at pictures of Ron's plane on wheels, (
<http://www.murphymoosealaska.com/Plane.html>
http://www.murphymoosealaska.com/Plane.html ), I see that he says, " 33
inch tundra tires available with 6.00 by 6 tundra tailwheel."

I talked to another Moose owner at Oshkosh who expressed caution about
putting larger tires on the Moose, something or other about the gear not
being designed for the larger moment arm that such would create,
especially in a rough or off-field landing. Does anyone have any
insight into this comment?

Also, I'm curious if anyone on the list know's what type (make/model) of
tailwheel he is referring to (perhaps the AK Bushwheel one at
http://www.akbushwheel.com/TundraTailwheel.html )? It's hard to tell
from the picture on his website what the tailwheel make/model is.

Ted

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Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:50 am

Do you think it might be possible to a compression spring gear system
similar to your Rebel gear to a Moose?

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Questions on Ron's Moose in AK

MAM did those big truck tires/rims and I'm told it really got the gear
legs/box/door posts moving! These gave the idea/look of big tires to avoid
pot holes..but didn't do anything for shock absorption like a set of
"bushwheels" would. I've put a fair amount of thought into gear box mods
and
leg clamps (that I've shared at Ontario Builders meetings)... and other
landing gear adaptations to get rid of the leaf gear all together... but
since I'm not working on my Moose this winter it will be awhile before
that
all becomes something worthy of pictures or talking about.

If you want to go big tires without as much airframe shock
transition...Bushwheels has a new 35" tire for the Beaver's weight and 10"
wheels. Only about $4450us/pair (deal right now with free shipping also!
). They also have 31 inchers for the Supercub (or Rebel !!) on 6"
wheels..but they don't have a high enough weight rating for a Moose (and
are
about $3300/pr). http://akbushwheel.com/

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>
To: "Murphy List" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: Questions on Ron's Moose in AK

Folks

Looking at pictures of Ron's plane on wheels, (
<http://www.murphymoosealaska.com/Plane.html>
http://www.murphymoosealaska.com/Plane.html ), I see that he says, " 33
inch tundra tires available with 6.00 by 6 tundra tailwheel."

I talked to another Moose owner at Oshkosh who expressed caution about
putting larger tires on the Moose, something or other about the gear not
being designed for the larger moment arm that such would create,
especially in a rough or off-field landing. Does anyone have any
insight into this comment?

Also, I'm curious if anyone on the list know's what type (make/model) of
tailwheel he is referring to (perhaps the AK Bushwheel one at
http://www.akbushwheel.com/TundraTailwheel.html )? It's hard to tell
from the picture on his website what the tailwheel make/model is.

Ted

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