could never figure out why MAM never used two nice shaped pieces of roof
channel as they have the die block to mash them out. I think the Elite may be
less prone to damage as the hanger bracket only deals with half the load with
the flaps being seperate. .032 channel goes under the MAM P/N ST-28
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-> From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
-> To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> References: <PFEOJDIIGOHLFACHDMDNMEPMCIAA.Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
-> Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebe/CD pictures l
-> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:00:46 -0400
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-> Walter,
->
-> I was staying quiet so you could get other input, as I'm sure others have
-> some better ways. Meant absolutely no insult to Sean, but just couldn't
let
-> "as per the manual" be input on this critical area.
->
-> The other thing that I have to advise people on is that you can't go by the
-> pictures supplied on MAM's CD's.
->
-> USE THEM A REFERENCE AND IF THEY DON'T MATCH THE INSTRUCTIONS IGNORE THEM.
->
-> Especially the float one where the manual tells you one thing and then all
-> the pictures are of Julius's floats going together in his shop, that have
-> VERY few factory supplied parts left in them making the pictures VERY
-> confusing for someone that is just trying to put together what MAM sent
them
-> in the crate.
->
-> Cheers,
-> Wayne
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
-> To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:59 AM
-> Subject: RE: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
->
->
-> > Yes, Wayne, I was expecting to hear from you on this
-> > one, because I do remember the past discussions.
-> > However, as mentioned there appears to be a few
-> > different ways to beef up the area. Then what confuses
-> > things further is to find the Elite controls manual on
-> > the website still uses the original Rebel method with
-> > the single channel and roof bracket.
-> >
-> > So, if I'm going to do a fix, I'm just trying to find
-> > out the best recommended method, manuals aside.
-> >
-> > Thanks everyone for their input.
-> >
-> > Walter
-> >
-> > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > > [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > > Wayne G. O'Shea
-> > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:15 AM
-> > > To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
-> > > Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > I've been staying quiet on this thread, as
-> > > we've been here before, but sorry
-> > > Sean the single ST-31 (.020) channel and
-> > > .032 bracket to the roof does not
-> > > "work just fine" for the torque tube hanger
-> > > bracket. You haven't looked too
-> > > hard....... if you haven't seen this area to
-> > > be a problem. I have fixed at
-> > > least 7 (possibly more) of these hanger
-> > > brackets, that buckle from leaving
-> > > aileron/flaperons without gust locks or even
-> > > just having a tail wind rip the
-> > > stick out of our hands.
-> > >
-> > > At minimum this channel needs to be .032 and
-> > > not .020 and it's very easy to
-> > > add a layer of material to it by bending up
-> > > a channel to fit inside the
-> > > existing one if you are already built to
-> > > this stage or flying. Better now
-> > > than when you go to leave a distant flyin
-> > > and find things aren't where they
-> > > used to be on the cabin roof!
-> > >
-> > > Cheers,
-> > > Wayne O'Shea
-> > >
-> > > ----- Original Message -----
-> > > From: <rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > > To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:17 AM
-> > > Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > > If it helps clear up how to put the hanger
-> > > on the roof don't follow the
-> > > > pictures on the CD that Murphy sends as
-> > > these are pic's from the
-> > > prototype.
-> > > > If anyone has the misfortune of having a
-> > > very old Elite manual it shows
-> > > two
-> > > > for and aft channels made of st-31. the
-> > > new book has the single st31 with
-> > > > angle clips for and aft to tie it to the
-> > > bulheads and a .032 bracket that
-> > > > ties it to the roof and it works just
-> > > fine. The control chapter is on
-> > > > Murphy's web site for down load. Unless
-> > > you have a problem leave it per
-> > > the
-> > > > book I have never seen a problem in this
-> > > area that would require a beef up
-> > > >
-> > > > Sean White
-> > > > Kitplane solutions Inc.
-> > > >
-> > >
-> > >
-> > >
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