Do you want this big green box to go away? Well here's how...

Click here for full update

Wildcat! photo archives restored.

Click here for full update

Donors can now disable ads.

Click here for instructions

Add yourself to the user map.

Click here for instructions

Torqing AIL bolts?

Converted from Wildcat! database. (read only)
Locked
Legeorgen

Torqing AIL bolts?

Post by Legeorgen » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:17 pm

Hi everyone,

On final assemble of the flaperons am I correct to assume the castle nut is torqued tight, so the AIL-26 steel bushing is held tight and does not to turn inside the brass bushing, like the rudder and elevators hinges? Why then use a castle nut and cotter pin instead of a lock nut? Thanks for any help in advance.

Bruce G 357R

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Legeorgen

Torqing AIL bolts?

Post by Legeorgen » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:17 pm

I meant that to say the AIL-26 is tight on the bolt so as to not rotate around the bolt but turns in the brass bushing.

Bruce G 357R

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Wayne G. O'Shea

Torqing AIL bolts?

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:17 pm

Yes and I meant to answer you Bruce! YES the bolt should be tight and the steel bushing held tight, so it rotates in the brass bushing which needs to be kept lubricate. I use LPS1 after the initial coat of grease during assembly. You <should> use the castle nut and cotter just in case the steel seizes to the brass and tries to turn on the bolt, although I have seen a few with Nytrol nuts in there that seem to work just fine.All depends on your inspector come final inspection, but keep in mind that these bolts aren't in view, like all the others on the airplane, for easy walk around inspections.

Cheers,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Legeorgen@cs.com (Legeorgen@cs.com)
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com (murphy-rebel@dcsol.com)
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: Torqing AIL bolts?


I meant that to say the AIL-26 is tight on the bolt so as to not rotate around the bolt but turns in the brass bushing.

Bruce G 357R

Legeorgen

Torqing AIL bolts?

Post by Legeorgen » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:17 pm

Thanks Wayne, for the quick response to the AIL bolts and bushings...Bruce G

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Brian Cross

Torqing AIL bolts?

Post by Brian Cross » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:17 pm

Hi Wayne

LPS1 - is that a spray on type of lubricant?

Brian #328R

At 10:23 PM 6/26/02 -0400, you wrote:
Yes and I meant to answer you Bruce! YES the bolt should be tight and the steel bushing held tight, so it rotates in the brass bushing which needs to be kept lubricate. I use LPS1 after the initial coat of grease during assembly. You <should> use the castle nut and cotter just in case the steel seizes to the brass and tries to turn on the bolt, although I have seen a few with Nytrol nuts in there that seem to work just fine.All depends on your inspector come final inspection, but keep in mind that these bolts aren't in view, like all the others on the airplane, for easy walk around inspections.

Cheers,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Legeorgen@cs.com (Legeorgen@cs.com)
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com (murphy-rebel@dcsol.com)
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: Torqing AIL bolts?

I meant that to say the AIL-26 is tight on the bolt so as to not rotate around the bolt but turns in the brass bushing.

Bruce G 357R

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------


Wayne G. O'Shea

Torqing AIL bolts?

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:17 pm

Yes LPS is a brand name and then 1, 2, 3 etc are different products in their line up. The LPS 1 is a greaseless lube for fine precision stuff. I like it, as being greaseless it doesn't attract dirt and it seeps into places that spray grease won't. It stays wet and doesn't dry stuff out like say WD40 does. I also use their LPS 3 product for protecting engine cylinder walls and many other things while in storage for up to a year or so. They also have a product that is used like Boeing sheild for coating wing interiors etc (but I have never bothered with it on the 6061 aluminum) as well as other products for various purposes.
LPS1 is available in Aerosol and spray bottles, as well as bulk containers. You can get a can of the aerosol at Leavens for slightly less than $20 and pickup a brochure on other products available most likely while your there. Don't know if they sell the spray bottle (which is MUCH more economical but not as handy for getting into the tight spots, as you can't use the little extension tubes with it).

Cheers,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Cross (BCROSS2160@ROGERS.COM)
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com (murphy-rebel@dcsol.com)
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Torqing AIL bolts?


Hi Wayne

LPS1 - is that a spray on type of lubricant?

Brian #328R

At 10:23 PM 6/26/02 -0400, you wrote:
Yes and I meant to answer you Bruce! YES the bolt should be tight and the steel bushing held tight, so it rotates in the brass bushing which needs to be kept lubricate. I use LPS1 after the initial coat of grease during assembly. You <should> use the castle nut and cotter just in case the steel seizes to the brass and tries to turn on the bolt, although I have seen a few with Nytrol nuts in there that seem to work just fine.All depends on your inspector come final inspection, but keep in mind that these bolts aren't in view, like all the others on the airplane, for easy walk around inspections.

Cheers,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: Legeorgen@cs.com (Legeorgen@cs.com)
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com (murphy-rebel@dcsol.com)
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: Torqing AIL bolts?

I meant that to say the AIL-26 is tight on the bolt so as to not rotate around the bolt but turns in the brass bushing.

Bruce G 357R


Locked