[rebel-builders] Rebel Seat Tracks and Tie Down Rings

Ron Shannon · Post by **Ron Shannon** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 pm

I couldn't find a 1/4" eye ring either, but found a 5/16" coarse threaded
stainless one that has worked very well. My site is down at the moment, and
I'm a long way from home, so I can't look up the source, but will let you
know where I got it when I can.

Ron

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Roland Kriening <kriening@rogers.com>wrote:

Thanks Mike,

Looks like my original message did not make it onto the list. I have
reposted it here to see if there are any additional comments from other
builders.

Three questions....

1. Any trick to improving the way the seat pins drop down into the seat
tracks? Even with careful alignment when installing the seat tracks, it
seems impossible to get perfect alignment of the pin into the seat track
holes.

2. There is a tiny pin that goes through the seat pin which holds the
spring
in place. Seems logical that constant vibration will cause the pin to move
and possibly come out. Any experience or fixes for this. Bend the sides of
the pin so it cannot slide out???

3. Some builders have installed forged eye rings (bolts) into one of the
holes at the top of the strut to use as tie down points. I have been
searching for one that will fit the 1/4" holes, but without much luck. Can
someone provide me with a source?

Roland
R56

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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 pm

MAM sold stainless rings welded on to a full threaded stainless rod. I
chose not to use mine although they likely would have worked OK.

Instead I used a forged stainless female threaded ring from Westcoast
marine and a grade 5 bolt. Both required a 5/16" hole. By cutting off
about a half inch of thread and using some washers I was able to get the
proper grip range on the bolt.

Don't think I did anything special with the seat pins other than
rounding and tapering the very end but they have worked just fine. The
rolled pins were fairly tight in the holes and have not moved.

Ken

On 12/02/2012 4:48 PM, Roland Kriening wrote:

Thanks Mike,

Looks like my original message did not make it onto the list. I have
reposted it here to see if there are any additional comments from other
builders.

Three questions....

1. Any trick to improving the way the seat pins drop down into the seat
tracks? Even with careful alignment when installing the seat tracks, it
seems impossible to get perfect alignment of the pin into the seat track
holes.

2. There is a tiny pin that goes through the seat pin which holds the spring
in place. Seems logical that constant vibration will cause the pin to move
and possibly come out. Any experience or fixes for this. Bend the sides of
the pin so it cannot slide out???

3. Some builders have installed forged eye rings (bolts) into one of the
holes at the top of the strut to use as tie down points. I have been
searching for one that will fit the 1/4" holes, but without much luck. Can
someone provide me with a source?

Roland
R56

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
mikeh@dcsol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:22 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: Rebel Seat Tracks and Tie Down Rings

On 2/10/2012 4:20 AM, kriening@rogers.com wrote to rebel-builders:
Hi Roland,
1 I fitted the rails to the seat with the pins engaged in matching
holes and placed the "assembly" , very carefully, in position on the floor.
After doing my best to position the rails with equal free movement in all
directions I drilled enough 3/32 holes to positively hold the rails. After
removing the seat, clecoing the rails back in position I drilled the rest
of the holes. As well as the pin engagement I was also worried that the
seats wouldn't slide freely if the rails weren't exactly parallel. Anyway
it worked for me. I did have to do a little filing and panel beating to get
them to slide freely but the result is good.
2 I'd be surprised if the pins would come loose, and if one did
there is a second one.
3 I found a couple of tie down rings from a Cessna 150 or 172 at the
wrecker which I hope to use but they might be a little short, not sure yet.
If they are I'm hoping to find something similar. I haven't been able to
find anything new listed anywhere so far.
Hope this is useful Cheers Mike 818R

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 pm

What I'd sent Roland the other day when I realized the list wasn't
working...
.....................
These are what I have on mine

http://www.bosunsupplies.com/products2. ... duct=S0322

or I've had good luck with stainless bolt style rings from West Marine for a

couple of installations. The sailboat stuff is high strength...

The seat tracks.. just ream the holes a tad until the pins drop in smoothly.

The split pin that retains the spring shouldn't fall out if the holes where
drilled the right size to make them a press fit.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland Kriening" <kriening@rogers.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:48 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel Seat Tracks and Tie Down Rings

Thanks Mike,

Looks like my original message did not make it onto the list. I have
reposted it here to see if there are any additional comments from other
builders.

Three questions....

1. Any trick to improving the way the seat pins drop down into the seat
tracks? Even with careful alignment when installing the seat tracks, it
seems impossible to get perfect alignment of the pin into the seat track
holes.

2. There is a tiny pin that goes through the seat pin which holds the
spring
in place. Seems logical that constant vibration will cause the pin to move
and possibly come out. Any experience or fixes for this. Bend the sides of
the pin so it cannot slide out???

3. Some builders have installed forged eye rings (bolts) into one of the
holes at the top of the strut to use as tie down points. I have been
searching for one that will fit the 1/4" holes, but without much luck. Can
someone provide me with a source?

Roland
R56

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
mikeh@dcsol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:22 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: Rebel Seat Tracks and Tie Down Rings

On 2/10/2012 4:20 AM, kriening@rogers.com wrote to rebel-builders:
Hi Roland,
1 I fitted the rails to the seat with the pins engaged in matching
holes and placed the "assembly" , very carefully, in position on the
floor.
After doing my best to position the rails with equal free movement in all
directions I drilled enough 3/32 holes to positively hold the rails. After
removing the seat, clecoing the rails back in position I drilled the rest
of the holes. As well as the pin engagement I was also worried that the
seats wouldn't slide freely if the rails weren't exactly parallel. Anyway
it worked for me. I did have to do a little filing and panel beating to
get
them to slide freely but the result is good.
2 I'd be surprised if the pins would come loose, and if one did
there is a second one.
3 I found a couple of tie down rings from a Cessna 150 or 172 at the
wrecker which I hope to use but they might be a little short, not sure
yet.
If they are I'm hoping to find something similar. I haven't been able to
find anything new listed anywhere so far.
Hope this is useful Cheers Mike 818R

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