[rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

[Ken]

As far as I can remember, I had more than enough travel for 2 up and 3
down of 6* per notch Mike.
Ken
ps -you have lots of leeway as not everyone celebrates Christmas in Dec. ;)

mikeh@dcsol.com wrote:

Hi all, hope you have all recovered from Oshkosh by now. I hope to visit
before I die.
I intend to have two reflex flap positions on 818R and am working on
the mixer arm/control column area but not wanting to drill too many holes
just yet. Can anyone tell me whether the extra reflex position is possible
with the standard length mixer arm retainer, or does it need to be a bit
longer to give more mixer arm travel? And do you use the standard flap
lever quadrant with an extra hole or does that need changing?
Hoping to fly by Xmas.................which Xmas?
Thanks for any input and cheers Mike

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[Charlie Eubanks]

Hi Mike
I have acouple of drawings I converted to pdf files that may help. If
interested send me your e-mail address.
Charlie E. Charlie@troyairpark.com
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Subject: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

Hi all, hope you have all recovered from Oshkosh by now. I hope to visit
before I die.
I intend to have two reflex flap positions on 818R and am working on
the mixer arm/control column area but not wanting to drill too many holes
just yet. Can anyone tell me whether the extra reflex position is possible
with the standard length mixer arm retainer, or does it need to be a bit
longer to give more mixer arm travel? And do you use the standard flap
lever quadrant with an extra hole or does that need changing?
Hoping to fly by Xmas.................which Xmas?
Thanks for any input and cheers Mike



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[schaumr]

Me too please, Charlie.

Thanks,

Rob

On 8/6/2010 5:06 AM, charlie@troyairpark.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Hi Mike
-> I have acouple of drawings I converted to pdf files that may help. If
-> interested send me your e-mail address.
-> Charlie E. Charlie@troyairpark.com
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: <mikeh@dcsol.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 5:57 AM
-> Subject: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R
->
->
-> > Hi all, hope you have all recovered from Oshkosh by now. I hope to visit
-> > before I die.
-> > I intend to have two reflex flap positions on 818R and am working on
-> > the mixer arm/control column area but not wanting to drill too many holes
-> > just yet. Can anyone tell me whether the extra reflex position is possible
-> > with the standard length mixer arm retainer, or does it need to be a bit
-> > longer to give more mixer arm travel? And do you use the standard flap
-> > lever quadrant with an extra hole or does that need changing?
-> > Hoping to fly by Xmas.................which Xmas?
-> > Thanks for any input and cheers Mike
-> >
-> >
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[Bob Patterson]

Hi Mike !

As others have said, no problem with the standard setup,
to add the extra hole.

You will find it much more comfortable if you make a new
flap handle from plate, in almost an "L" shape, rather than
the straight bar. With the leg forward, it is much easier to pull
down, and, in cruise, the lever is right forward, out of your view.
The angle in the corner is between 45 and 90 degrees, for
comfort.

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.amway.ca/BobPatterson


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On August 6, 2010 06:57:42 am mikeh@dcsol.com wrote:

Hi all, hope you have all recovered from Oshkosh by now. I hope to visit
before I die.
I intend to have two reflex flap positions on 818R and am working on
the mixer arm/control column area but not wanting to drill too many holes
just yet. Can anyone tell me whether the extra reflex position is possible
with the standard length mixer arm retainer, or does it need to be a bit
longer to give more mixer arm travel? And do you use the standard flap
lever quadrant with an extra hole or does that need changing?
Hoping to fly by Xmas.................which Xmas?
Thanks for any input and cheers Mike

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[bransom]

Hi Charlie,
I'd be interested in your drawings too.
Direct email for me is: bransom@ucdavis.edu
Thanks in advance.
-Ben/ 496R

On 8/6/2010 5:06 AM, charlie@troyairpark.com wrote to rebel-builders:

Hi Mike
I have acouple of drawings I converted to pdf files that may help. If
interested send me your e-mail address.
Charlie E. Charlie@troyairpark.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <mikeh@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 5:57 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

Hi all, hope you have all recovered from Oshkosh by now. I hope to visit
before I die.
I intend to have two reflex flap positions on 818R and am working on
the mixer arm/control column area but not wanting to drill too many holes
just yet. Can anyone tell me whether the extra reflex position is possible
with the standard length mixer arm retainer, or does it need to be a bit
longer to give more mixer arm travel? And do you use the standard flap
lever quadrant with an extra hole or does that need changing?
Hoping to fly by Xmas.................which Xmas?
Thanks for any input and cheers Mike



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[Charlie Eubanks]

Mike
I hope the drawings help. I don't have the answer to your question about the
second reflex position. When I talked to Bob P. about rigging the controls
some time back there was some doubt in my case that I would have enough HP
(118) to cruse in the second reflex position. Must create a lot of drag.
I am just about to make the final installation of the firewall. I wanted to
complete the wiring of the instrument panel and the brake lines and cut all
the big holes in the firewall while they were easy to reach.
Oshkosh was really muddy but we had good weather while we were there. Spent
a lot of money and was glad to get home.
Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 3:06 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

Hi again,
Thank you all for that, the variables are being reduced. And, yes, I
like the idea of a variable Xmas too. Cheers Mike



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[Walter Klatt]

If you have enough hp to cruise at 100+ mph, you should have no trouble
utilizing full reflex. On mine, I can slow down to 90 mph before I have to
reduce reflex. Otherwise the nose starts to rise (behind the curve) and you
lose your efficiency. I can cruise as slow as 80 with some reflex, below
that I need to have neutral reflex. This is with amphibs, so with less
weight you should be able to achieve lower speeds with reflex.

Reflex has a couple advantages, for sure more speed (around 10 mph), but
also your bank roll will be more snappy. And less fuel burn with the lower
drag in reflex. I think reflex is better in rough air, too, although I still
slow right down to be on the safe side.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Eubanks
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:37 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

Mike
I hope the drawings help. I don't have the answer to your question about the

second reflex position. When I talked to Bob P. about rigging the controls
some time back there was some doubt in my case that I would have enough HP
(118) to cruse in the second reflex position. Must create a lot of drag.
I am just about to make the final installation of the firewall. I wanted to
complete the wiring of the instrument panel and the brake lines and cut all
the big holes in the firewall while they were easy to reach.
Oshkosh was really muddy but we had good weather while we were there. Spent
a lot of money and was glad to get home.
Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: <mikeh@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 3:06 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

Hi again,
Thank you all for that, the variables are being reduced. And, yes, I
like the idea of a variable Xmas too. Cheers Mike



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[Charlie Eubanks]

Thanks Walter
Thats good to know. So I should have no problem since I plan to be wheels
only.
Charlie E.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

If you have enough hp to cruise at 100+ mph, you should have no trouble
utilizing full reflex. On mine, I can slow down to 90 mph before I have to
reduce reflex. Otherwise the nose starts to rise (behind the curve) and
you
lose your efficiency. I can cruise as slow as 80 with some reflex, below
that I need to have neutral reflex. This is with amphibs, so with less
weight you should be able to achieve lower speeds with reflex.

Reflex has a couple advantages, for sure more speed (around 10 mph), but
also your bank roll will be more snappy. And less fuel burn with the lower
drag in reflex. I think reflex is better in rough air, too, although I
still
slow right down to be on the safe side.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Eubanks
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:37 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

Mike
I hope the drawings help. I don't have the answer to your question about
the

second reflex position. When I talked to Bob P. about rigging the controls
some time back there was some doubt in my case that I would have enough HP
(118) to cruse in the second reflex position. Must create a lot of drag.
I am just about to make the final installation of the firewall. I wanted
to
complete the wiring of the instrument panel and the brake lines and cut
all
the big holes in the firewall while they were easy to reach.
Oshkosh was really muddy but we had good weather while we were there.
Spent
a lot of money and was glad to get home.
Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: <mikeh@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 3:06 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Mixer arm travel 818R

Hi again,
Thank you all for that, the variables are being reduced. And, yes, I
like the idea of a variable Xmas too. Cheers Mike



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