[rebel-builders] Pneumatic rivet puller?

[John Kramer]

I've been surprised at how well Harbor Freight Tools work for the price,
I have one of the rivet pullers and it works.

John...


flex@dcsol.com wrote:

Hey all!

After a two month, unplanned, gap in construction due to school/work/baby,
I've finally finished the tail kit today! Put the finishing touches on the
elevator horn mod and trim tab horn reinforcements this afternoon, and now
the epoxy is curing.

Unfortunately, I had to pull the last 100-ish rivets by hand due to my
pneumatic puller not gripping the mandrels. I've cleaned the mechanism,
pulled the nose piece off the puller, adjusted/cleaned the jaws, but nothing
seems to work. Anybody have a similar experience?

I've searched the archives, but seems like more people have had the opposite
problem of the puller not letting go.

This is the standard blue gun that the original builder got with the aircraft
from MAM back in 2001. No serial/model number to be found anywhere.

On the bright side, if I can't get it to pull again I've got a Harbor Freight Tools
a few blocks form me. They've got a similar generic blue puller for about $38.

Thanks for any tips you may have.
Kory "Flex" Klismith
678E
Tucson, Arizona



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[Garry Wright]

Be sure it has sufficient oil in the upper chamber. These are usually a
sort of dual operation device with air operating the large diameter
cylinder and oil operating the puller.

Garry

On 10-05-23 08:59 PM, John Kramer wrote:

I've been surprised at how well Harbor Freight Tools work for the price,
I have one of the rivet pullers and it works.

John...


flex@dcsol.com wrote:

Hey all!

After a two month, unplanned, gap in construction due to school/work/baby,
I've finally finished the tail kit today! Put the finishing touches on the
elevator horn mod and trim tab horn reinforcements this afternoon, and now
the epoxy is curing.

Unfortunately, I had to pull the last 100-ish rivets by hand due to my
pneumatic puller not gripping the mandrels. I've cleaned the mechanism,
pulled the nose piece off the puller, adjusted/cleaned the jaws, but nothing
seems to work. Anybody have a similar experience?

I've searched the archives, but seems like more people have had the opposite
problem of the puller not letting go.

This is the standard blue gun that the original builder got with the aircraft
from MAM back in 2001. No serial/model number to be found anywhere.

On the bright side, if I can't get it to pull again I've got a Harbor Freight Tools
a few blocks form me. They've got a similar generic blue puller for about $38.

Thanks for any tips you may have.
Kory "Flex" Klismith
678E
Tucson, Arizona



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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Hard to fix from a far.. but something has moved.. a partial rivet mandrel
is stuck somewhere etc. I'm still using "old blue" that came with my
original kit in 1993. 17+ years later it's pulled well over a 1/4 million
rivets and still has the original puller jaws!

----- Original Message -----
From: <flex@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:40 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Pneumatic rivet puller?

Hey all!

After a two month, unplanned, gap in construction due to school/work/baby,
I've finally finished the tail kit today! Put the finishing touches on
the
elevator horn mod and trim tab horn reinforcements this afternoon, and now
the epoxy is curing.

Unfortunately, I had to pull the last 100-ish rivets by hand due to my
pneumatic puller not gripping the mandrels. I've cleaned the mechanism,
pulled the nose piece off the puller, adjusted/cleaned the jaws, but
nothing
seems to work. Anybody have a similar experience?

I've searched the archives, but seems like more people have had the
opposite
problem of the puller not letting go.

This is the standard blue gun that the original builder got with the
aircraft
from MAM back in 2001. No serial/model number to be found anywhere.

On the bright side, if I can't get it to pull again I've got a Harbor
Freight Tools
a few blocks form me. They've got a similar generic blue puller for
about $38.

Thanks for any tips you may have.
Kory "Flex" Klismith
678E
Tucson, Arizona



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[Jose & Terry]

Hi Kory,

I had some weird expierience with mine also at the beginning, couldn't get
it to adjust so i had the tip machined, seems like a long way to go but
fortunately i work in a garage with a machine shop. Not saying this is the
way to go but it worked for me, so far i think I,ve pulled about 12,000 or
so rivets with it so far and still going strong, ( I have not oiled it,
didn't want spray on the metal ) The riveter I got in my kit was a Princess
Auto special, also the deburing tool. With the price I paid for the tool kit
I expected much better tools, went in green and learned from there. I
decided to get a back up riveter, didn't trust this one at first, so I
bought one from UAP napa, turns out this riveter is identical to the first
one except for color. Still haven't used it yet, knock on wood. Also bought
way better deburing tools. I am sure this is a generic riveter made for
various low cost tool stores.

Jose
Rebel 805r

----- Original Message -----
From: "Garry Wright" <wright.garry30@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Pneumatic rivet puller?

Be sure it has sufficient oil in the upper chamber. These are usually a
sort of dual operation device with air operating the large diameter
cylinder and oil operating the puller.

Garry

On 10-05-23 08:59 PM, John Kramer wrote:

I've been surprised at how well Harbor Freight Tools work for the price,
I have one of the rivet pullers and it works.

John...


flex@dcsol.com wrote:

Hey all!

After a two month, unplanned, gap in construction due to
school/work/baby,
I've finally finished the tail kit today! Put the finishing touches on
the
elevator horn mod and trim tab horn reinforcements this afternoon, and
now
the epoxy is curing.

Unfortunately, I had to pull the last 100-ish rivets by hand due to my
pneumatic puller not gripping the mandrels. I've cleaned the mechanism,
pulled the nose piece off the puller, adjusted/cleaned the jaws, but
nothing
seems to work. Anybody have a similar experience?

I've searched the archives, but seems like more people have had the
opposite
problem of the puller not letting go.

This is the standard blue gun that the original builder got with the
aircraft
from MAM back in 2001. No serial/model number to be found anywhere.

On the bright side, if I can't get it to pull again I've got a Harbor
Freight Tools
a few blocks form me. They've got a similar generic blue puller for
about $38.

Thanks for any tips you may have.
Kory "Flex" Klismith
678E
Tucson, Arizona



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[Jeff Micheal]

Kory, sounds like Garry is on the right track here.

The bottom of the gun body should unscrew to expose a plunger mechanism, the
plunger needs to come out (a little compressed air will do the trick). In
the centre of the body there is a little opening where the shaft goes in; it
needs oil in there to make the jaws move. All these rivet guns work air over
oil.

Your gun is just lacking a bit of oil in this chamber; when chamber is not
full; you don't get full actuation of the puller.

Cheers,
Jeff


On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:40 PM, <flex@dcsol.com> wrote:

Hey all!

After a two month, unplanned, gap in construction due to school/work/baby,
I've finally finished the tail kit today! Put the finishing touches on the
elevator horn mod and trim tab horn reinforcements this afternoon, and now
the epoxy is curing.

Unfortunately, I had to pull the last 100-ish rivets by hand due to my
pneumatic puller not gripping the mandrels. I've cleaned the mechanism,
pulled the nose piece off the puller, adjusted/cleaned the jaws, but
nothing
seems to work. Anybody have a similar experience?

I've searched the archives, but seems like more people have had the
opposite
problem of the puller not letting go.

This is the standard blue gun that the original builder got with the
aircraft
from MAM back in 2001. No serial/model number to be found anywhere.

On the bright side, if I can't get it to pull again I've got a Harbor
Freight Tools
a few blocks form me. They've got a similar generic blue puller for about
$38.

Thanks for any tips you may have.
Kory "Flex" Klismith
678E
Tucson, Arizona



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[N.Smith]

Hi Kory

I've lost count of the number of rivets I've pulled with the ATS cheapest
pneumatic puller they sold about 7 years ago.

On the elevator mod you mentioned, its well worth modding the flat slab
front end of the elevator horns to nice rounded ones, the improvement in
handling is fantastic, removing a nasty pitch instabily issue with the
Elite.

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
flex@dcsol.com
Sent: 24 May 2010 03:41
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Pneumatic rivet puller?

Hey all!

After a two month, unplanned, gap in construction due to school/work/baby,
I've finally finished the tail kit today! Put the finishing touches on the
elevator horn mod and trim tab horn reinforcements this afternoon, and now
the epoxy is curing.

Unfortunately, I had to pull the last 100-ish rivets by hand due to my
pneumatic puller not gripping the mandrels. I've cleaned the mechanism,
pulled the nose piece off the puller, adjusted/cleaned the jaws, but nothing

seems to work. Anybody have a similar experience?

I've searched the archives, but seems like more people have had the opposite

problem of the puller not letting go.

This is the standard blue gun that the original builder got with the
aircraft
from MAM back in 2001. No serial/model number to be found anywhere.

On the bright side, if I can't get it to pull again I've got a Harbor
Freight Tools
a few blocks form me. They've got a similar generic blue puller for about
$38.

Thanks for any tips you may have.
Kory "Flex" Klismith
678E
Tucson, Arizona



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[flex]

Thanks to everybody for all the advice! Looks like I'll be taking my rivet puller
apart this weekend. Gotta get this thing working again before I move to the
flaps/ailerons. I finished the elevator by hand... and with tennis elbow in
both arms it's not fun.

Nigel, thanks for the words on rounding the spades. A few months back I got
lots of great vectors form you, Ralph, and a whole bunch of others. The
spades are rounded and narrowed. From most counts that was the way to
go to make the Elite a little more safe, so that's the way I went with it.

I'll be buidling a rollable crate for the tail feathers this weekend to protect
them and make them easier to get in the truck when we move. Will probably
be a few years before I need them anyway.

Thanks again!
~Kory
678E

On 5/25/2010 2:59 AM, admin@airnig.co.uk wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Hi Kory
->
-> I've lost count of the number of rivets I've pulled with the ATS cheapest
-> pneumatic puller they sold about 7 years ago.
->
-> On the elevator mod you mentioned, its well worth modding the flat slab
-> front end of the elevator horns to nice rounded ones, the improvement in
-> handling is fantastic, removing a nasty pitch instabily issue with the
-> Elite.
->
-> Nig
-> 745E

->
->




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