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Dave Ricker

Rebel tail wheel

Post by Dave Ricker » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

Hi Rick

Sorry to hear about your mishap and real glad that you walked away, well,
now's the time for a few more improvements! So.....did you win the
competition????

Cheers,

Dave

Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our airfield ....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very lumpy - (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet short - so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach & DUMP the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" - she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had anticipated :o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the right gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o( - LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the least :o(

Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get to do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(
----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Waltman
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: Rebel tail wheel

Ian,

As I previously posted regarding my Moose, I too had main casting wear
and a very sloppy "centre" pin. I can send you my post if you didn't
previously see it.

I agree with the other reply you got; go with a Scott tailwheel if you
can.

Ted Waltman

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
IAN DONALDSON
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 5:15 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Rebel tail wheel

G'day

I have just returned home from a 1200 mile tour of outback Australia
in
my
912S powered Rebel. Needless to say she flew wonderfully, except for
the fact that on paved runways she turned into a ground looping
demon! I gave a great exhibition of a 360 degree loop in front of a
waiting
group of pilots! It goes without saying that I received a fair amount
of
teasing over my piloting skills!

Now I have done 99% of my flying off grass strips and thought that it
must
have been my inexperience that was causing my handling problems. But
my
companion, who is a high hour commercial pilot and with lots of
experience
in taildraggers was also having the same trouble and we almost lost
our
nerve completely, and we were tossing a coin to see who would have to
do
the
next landing!

Now that we have the Rebel in the hangar I searched for answers and
have

found that the centre pin in the wheel fork has come loose which has
allowed
the tailwheel to pivot just as it wished! This is what caused the
strange
handling. This is the standard MAM tailwheel as supplied in the kit.

Has anyone had this same experience, or can offer anyway to secure
this
pin?
The pin is secured by two 1/8" roll pins but there is nothing to
locate
them
into the pin. The main casting is also worn and the pin is a sloppy
fit.

Does anyone have a fix?

I would appreciate some advice and assistance.

Apart from all that, the Rebel cruises at 85 knots and has an average
petrol
burn 20 litres an hour. This is with two large pilots, lots of fuel
and
as
much luggage as we can get in and still shut the doors!

Thanks and regards

Ian Donaldson

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Bruce Georgen

Rebel tail wheel

Post by Bruce Georgen » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

Ian,

Take the MAM tail wheel off and throw it away before you destroy your whole planewith it! Or give it to your worst enemey. Then buy a Scott 3200. It will be the best insurance policy you ever bought. That's my opinion and the same advice I recieved from a very experienced pilot who would not fly in my first project (Kitfox with a Maule tail wheel) until I changed it. He was right.


Bruce



-----Original Message-----
From: IAN DONALDSON <allsure@bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Aug 6, 2005 7:15 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Rebel tail wheel

G'day

I have just returned home from a 1200 mile tour of outback Australia in my
912S powered Rebel. Needless to say she flew wonderfully,
except for the fact that on paved runways she turned into a ground looping
demon! I gave a great exhibition of a 360 degree loop in front of a waiting
group of pilots! It goes without saying that I received a fair amount of
teasing over my piloting skills!

Now I have done 99% of my flying off grass strips and thought that it must
have been my inexperience that was causing my handling problems. But my
companion, who is a high hour commercial pilot and with lots of experience
in taildraggers was also having the same trouble and we almost lost our
nerve completely, and we were tossing a coin to see who would have to do the
next landing!

Now that we have the Rebel in the hangar I searched for answers and have
found that the centre pin in the wheel fork has come loose which has allowed
the tailwheel to pivot just as it wished! This is what caused the strange
handling. This is the standard MAM tailwheel as supplied in the kit.

Has anyone had this same experience, or can offer anyway to secure this pin?
The pin is secured by two 1/8" roll pins but there is nothing to locate them
into the pin. The main casting is also worn and the pin is a sloppy fit.
Does anyone have a fix?

I would appreciate some advice and assistance.

Apart from all that, the Rebel cruises at 85 knots and has an average petrol
burn 20 litres an hour. This is with two large pilots, lots of fuel and as
much luggage as we can get in and still shut the doors!


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Rebel tail wheel

Post by Ken » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

For a Rebel, I thought I'd try a pneumatic Matco at about US$200. if I'm
not happy with the MAM unit.
We know the Scott works well but it seems a bit pricey!
Ken

Bruce Georgen wrote:
Ian,

Take the MAM tail wheel off and throw it away before you destroy your whole planewith it! Or give it to your worst enemey. Then buy a Scott 3200. It will be the best insurance policy you ever bought. That's my opinion and the same advice I recieved from a very experienced pilot who would not fly in my first project (Kitfox with a Maule tail wheel) until I changed it. He was right.


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Dave Ricker

Rebel tail wheel

Post by Dave Ricker » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

You guys are a riot! ;o0

Dave

Rick Harper wrote:
Bugger the "trauma hawk" .... hurry up & finish the ELITE !

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: cosmedi@bigpond.net.au
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel

Well Rick,
It seems that I will have to take you flying in my "trauma-hawk" again
until you have rebuilt REB; could you please loose just a little weight
so we can get of the ground. We dont want to get an ag rating like last
time. Back from the farm so I will be in touch.
Regards,
Greg. Elite 724(building)

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wrightdg

Rebel tail wheel

Post by wrightdg » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

It seems to me that most of the group express a preference for Scott
tailwheels - in spite of the rapidly rising and ridiculous price for the
3200. It weighs 8# maybe and costs pretty close to $200 Canadian per
pound. Thats not as much as gold but getting there.

There are two reasons given for the preference for Scott. Primarily
people point to it and say - it won't give you a tailwheel induced
ground loop if you maintain it properly. The second thing is the
pneumatic tire on the 3200 which all who have it delight in. Its pretty
hard to get a good handle on which motive predominates but the motive
should be clear when buying precious metal.

For safety the Scott is said to be superior - go with the 2000. I just
got one used but in good condition on ebay for about $200 Canadian. I'm
not sure about the safety claim but needed the tailwheel anyway so thats
the way I went.

For comfort, any pneumatic will do. You don't need the gold one. Which
motive are you driven by? Both? Hmmm! Am I missing something here?

Garry

On Sun, 2005-07-08 at 23:08 -0400, Ken wrote:
For a Rebel, I thought I'd try a pneumatic Matco at about US$200. if I'm
not happy with the MAM unit.
We know the Scott works well but it seems a bit pricey!
Ken

Bruce Georgen wrote:
Ian,

Take the MAM tail wheel off and throw it away before you destroy your whole planewith it! Or give it to your worst enemey. Then buy a Scott 3200. It will be the best insurance policy you ever bought. That's my opinion and the same advice I recieved from a very experienced pilot who would not fly in my first project (Kitfox with a Maule tail wheel) until I changed it. He was right.


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steve whitenect

Rebel tail wheel

Post by steve whitenect » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

On my Christavia which is tandum, The 2000 didn't do the job. Bought a
Matco and broke the locking pin. Put on a 3200 and is still on. They are
about 900 us from as&s

Steve W.
Rebel 637
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:08:20 -0400

For a Rebel, I thought I'd try a pneumatic Matco at about US$200. if I'm
not happy with the MAM unit.
We know the Scott works well but it seems a bit pricey!
Ken

Bruce Georgen wrote:
Ian,

Take the MAM tail wheel off and throw it away before you destroy your
whole planewith it! Or give it to your worst enemey. Then buy a Scott 3200.
It will be the best insurance policy you ever bought. That's my opinion and
the same advice I recieved from a very experienced pilot who would not fly
in my first project (Kitfox with a Maule tail wheel) until I changed it. He
was right.

Bruce




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steve whitenect

Rebel tail wheel

Post by steve whitenect » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

Has anyone tried the newer MAM wheel that comes with the Elite kit? I saw
one at Gill Tessier's while rumaging thru his kit and it looked quite beefy.

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Ted Waltman

Rebel tail wheel

Post by Ted Waltman » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

I have the Elite tailwheel on my Moose. Al Pahxia has this on his too.
The issues with it are:

- Beefed up fork (more weight)
- Same bracket assembly as before with the smaller "regular" MAM
tailwheel
- Same pivot pin etc, etc, etc.
- Same stinger attach issues, which are as much a problem as the bracket
assembly itself

Ted

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Drew Dalgleish

Rebel tail wheel

Post by Drew Dalgleish » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

When I priced it a couple years ago they wanted more than a scott was
selling for

At 02:04 PM 8/8/2005 -0600, you wrote:
I have the Elite tailwheel on my Moose. Al Pahxia has this on his too.
The issues with it are:

- Beefed up fork (more weight)
- Same bracket assembly as before with the smaller "regular" MAM
tailwheel
- Same pivot pin etc, etc, etc.
- Same stinger attach issues, which are as much a problem as the bracket
assembly itself

Ted

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steve whitenect
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Has anyone tried the newer MAM wheel that comes with the Elite kit? I
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Bruce Georgen

Rebel tail wheel

Post by Bruce Georgen » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

Garry,

The Scott tail wheel will not break loss and caster on you when you give the rudder a boot while your landing in a cross wind some day, making you a weather vane and sending you into a ground loop that will cost you a lot more than the price of the Scott tail wheel.

I have seen several planes wrecked by a ground loop but never one with a Scott tail wheel. Ever! I have yet to meet a high time experienced tail wheel pilot who does not endorse the virtues of the Scott tail wheel.

It made all the difference in the handling of my Kitfox and I have never flown My Rebel without one. I have witness the destruction of two Kitfox with other types of tail wheels. I'm a believer. So much so I "gave away" the Maule I removed from the Kitfox to another Kitfox driver who insisted I sell it to him. didn't have the heart to ask him for money. I tried to convince him to buy the Scott.

For what it's worth.


Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: wrightdg <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Sent: Aug 8, 2005 12:45 AM
To: rebel builders <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel

It seems to me that most of the group express a preference for Scott
tailwheels - in spite of the rapidly rising and ridiculous price for the
3200. It weighs 8# maybe and costs pretty close to $200 Canadian per
pound. Thats not as much as gold but getting there.

There are two reasons given for the preference for Scott. Primarily
people point to it and say - it won't give you a tailwheel induced
ground loop if you maintain it properly. The second thing is the
pneumatic tire on the 3200 which all who have it delight in. Its pretty
hard to get a good handle on which motive predominates but the motive
should be clear when buying precious metal.

For safety the Scott is said to be superior - go with the 2000. I just
got one used but in good condition on ebay for about $200 Canadian. I'm
not sure about the safety claim but needed the tailwheel anyway so thats
the way I went.

For comfort, any pneumatic will do. You don't need the gold one. Which
motive are you driven by? Both? Hmmm! Am I missing something here?

Garry

On Sun, 2005-07-08 at 23:08 -0400, Ken wrote:
For a Rebel, I thought I'd try a pneumatic Matco at about US$200. if I'm
not happy with the MAM unit.
We know the Scott works well but it seems a bit pricey!
Ken

Bruce Georgen wrote:
Ian,

Take the MAM tail wheel off and throw it away before you destroy your whole planewith it! Or give it to your worst enemey. Then buy a Scott 3200. It will be the best insurance policy you ever bought. That's my opinion and the same advice I recieved from a very experienced pilot who would not fly in my first project (Kitfox with a Maule tail wheel) until I changed it. He was right.


Bruce




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Post by wrightdg » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

Bruce,

I take it then that your rational is to go with the Scott for saftey
reasons. What's wrong with the 2000?

On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:55 -0400, Bruce Georgen wrote:
Garry,

The Scott tail wheel will not break loss and caster on you when you give the rudder a boot while your landing in a cross wind some day, making you a weather vane and sending you into a ground loop that will cost you a lot more than the price of the Scott tail wheel.

I have seen several planes wrecked by a ground loop but never one with a Scott tail wheel. Ever! I have yet to meet a high time experienced tail wheel pilot who does not endorse the virtues of the Scott tail wheel.

It made all the difference in the handling of my Kitfox and I have never flown My Rebel without one. I have witness the destruction of two Kitfox with other types of tail wheels. I'm a believer. So much so I "gave away" the Maule I removed from the Kitfox to another Kitfox driver who insisted I sell it to him. didn't have the heart to ask him for money. I tried to convince him to buy the Scott.

For what it's worth.


Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: wrightdg <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Sent: Aug 8, 2005 12:45 AM
To: rebel builders <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel

It seems to me that most of the group express a preference for Scott
tailwheels - in spite of the rapidly rising and ridiculous price for the
3200. It weighs 8# maybe and costs pretty close to $200 Canadian per
pound. Thats not as much as gold but getting there.

There are two reasons given for the preference for Scott. Primarily
people point to it and say - it won't give you a tailwheel induced
ground loop if you maintain it properly. The second thing is the
pneumatic tire on the 3200 which all who have it delight in. Its pretty
hard to get a good handle on which motive predominates but the motive
should be clear when buying precious metal.

For safety the Scott is said to be superior - go with the 2000. I just
got one used but in good condition on ebay for about $200 Canadian. I'm
not sure about the safety claim but needed the tailwheel anyway so thats
the way I went.

For comfort, any pneumatic will do. You don't need the gold one. Which
motive are you driven by? Both? Hmmm! Am I missing something here?

Garry

On Sun, 2005-07-08 at 23:08 -0400, Ken wrote:
For a Rebel, I thought I'd try a pneumatic Matco at about US$200. if I'm
not happy with the MAM unit.
We know the Scott works well but it seems a bit pricey!
Ken

Bruce Georgen wrote:
Ian,

Take the MAM tail wheel off and throw it away before you destroy your whole planewith it! Or give it to your worst enemey. Then buy a Scott 3200. It will be the best insurance policy you ever bought. That's my opinion and the same advice I recieved from a very experienced pilot who would not fly in my first project (Kitfox with a Maule tail wheel) until I changed it. He was right.


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Rebel tail wheel

Post by Mike Davis » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

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Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel

I have a Maule Tundra tail wheel on my Rebel and it works well. It's not as
strong as a
Scott 3200 but it is considerably cheaper, and it is better built than the
stock tail wheel.
I ordered it from Leaven's.
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Rebel tail wheel

Post by Bruce Georgen » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

Hi Garry,

I don't have any personal experience with the 2000. If it is a smaller version of the 3200 I would guess it's a good tail wheel. I think it might be a little to light for a Rebel though if you plan to use it off pavement.

Bruce

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Sent: Aug 8, 2005 9:19 PM
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Bruce,

I take it then that your rational is to go with the Scott for saftey
reasons. What's wrong with the 2000?

On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:55 -0400, Bruce Georgen wrote:
Garry,

The Scott tail wheel will not break loss and caster on you when you give the rudder a boot while your landing in a cross wind some day, making you a weather vane and sending you into a ground loop that will cost you a lot more than the price of the Scott tail wheel.

I have seen several planes wrecked by a ground loop but never one with a Scott tail wheel. Ever! I have yet to meet a high time experienced tail wheel pilot who does not endorse the virtues of the Scott tail wheel.

It made all the difference in the handling of my Kitfox and I have never flown My Rebel without one. I have witness the destruction of two Kitfox with other types of tail wheels. I'm a believer. So much so I "gave away" the Maule I removed from the Kitfox to another Kitfox driver who insisted I sell it to him. didn't have the heart to ask him for money. I tried to convince him to buy the Scott.

For what it's worth.


Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: wrightdg <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Sent: Aug 8, 2005 12:45 AM
To: rebel builders <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel

It seems to me that most of the group express a preference for Scott
tailwheels - in spite of the rapidly rising and ridiculous price for the
3200. It weighs 8# maybe and costs pretty close to $200 Canadian per
pound. Thats not as much as gold but getting there.

There are two reasons given for the preference for Scott. Primarily
people point to it and say - it won't give you a tailwheel induced
ground loop if you maintain it properly. The second thing is the
pneumatic tire on the 3200 which all who have it delight in. Its pretty
hard to get a good handle on which motive predominates but the motive
should be clear when buying precious metal.

For safety the Scott is said to be superior - go with the 2000. I just
got one used but in good condition on ebay for about $200 Canadian. I'm
not sure about the safety claim but needed the tailwheel anyway so thats
the way I went.

For comfort, any pneumatic will do. You don't need the gold one. Which
motive are you driven by? Both? Hmmm! Am I missing something here?

Garry

On Sun, 2005-07-08 at 23:08 -0400, Ken wrote:
For a Rebel, I thought I'd try a pneumatic Matco at about US$200. if I'm
not happy with the MAM unit.
We know the Scott works well but it seems a bit pricey!
Ken

Bruce Georgen wrote:
Ian,

Take the MAM tail wheel off and throw it away before you destroy your whole planewith it! Or give it to your worst enemey. Then buy a Scott 3200. It will be the best insurance policy you ever bought. That's my opinion and the same advice I recieved from a very experienced pilot who would not fly in my first project (Kitfox with a Maule tail wheel) until I changed it. He was right.


Bruce




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Rebel tail wheel

Post by wrightdg » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

I'll give it a go and see how I make out. Its generally used on aircraft
with about the same gross as a Rebel on wheels so it should be okay.

On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 23:46 -0400, Bruce Georgen wrote:
Hi Garry,

I don't have any personal experience with the 2000. If it is a smaller version of the 3200 I would guess it's a good tail wheel. I think it might be a little to light for a Rebel though if you plan to use it off pavement.

Bruce

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Sent: Aug 8, 2005 9:19 PM
To: rebel builders <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel

Bruce,

I take it then that your rational is to go with the Scott for saftey
reasons. What's wrong with the 2000?

On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:55 -0400, Bruce Georgen wrote:
Garry,

The Scott tail wheel will not break loss and caster on you when you give the rudder a boot while your landing in a cross wind some day, making you a weather vane and sending you into a ground loop that will cost you a lot more than the price of the Scott tail wheel.

I have seen several planes wrecked by a ground loop but never one with a Scott tail wheel. Ever! I have yet to meet a high time experienced tail wheel pilot who does not endorse the virtues of the Scott tail wheel.

It made all the difference in the handling of my Kitfox and I have never flown My Rebel without one. I have witness the destruction of two Kitfox with other types of tail wheels. I'm a believer. So much so I "gave away" the Maule I removed from the Kitfox to another Kitfox driver who insisted I sell it to him. didn't have the heart to ask him for money. I tried to convince him to buy the Scott.

For what it's worth.


Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: wrightdg <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
Sent: Aug 8, 2005 12:45 AM
To: rebel builders <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel

It seems to me that most of the group express a preference for Scott
tailwheels - in spite of the rapidly rising and ridiculous price for the
3200. It weighs 8# maybe and costs pretty close to $200 Canadian per
pound. Thats not as much as gold but getting there.

There are two reasons given for the preference for Scott. Primarily
people point to it and say - it won't give you a tailwheel induced
ground loop if you maintain it properly. The second thing is the
pneumatic tire on the 3200 which all who have it delight in. Its pretty
hard to get a good handle on which motive predominates but the motive
should be clear when buying precious metal.

For safety the Scott is said to be superior - go with the 2000. I just
got one used but in good condition on ebay for about $200 Canadian. I'm
not sure about the safety claim but needed the tailwheel anyway so thats
the way I went.

For comfort, any pneumatic will do. You don't need the gold one. Which
motive are you driven by? Both? Hmmm! Am I missing something here?

Garry

On Sun, 2005-07-08 at 23:08 -0400, Ken wrote:
For a Rebel, I thought I'd try a pneumatic Matco at about US$200. if I'm
not happy with the MAM unit.
We know the Scott works well but it seems a bit pricey!
Ken

Bruce Georgen wrote:



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Rebel tail wheel

Post by bscheube » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am

Hello everyone,

It seems that there is a consensus that there is a problem with the tailwheel
setup on the moose/rebel and that MAM doesn't think so?? I am not that far
into the build yet to have a valid opinion.
But following the posts here I was wondering if we put up a group effort
calling or e-mailing MAM that something might get done to resolve this issue?
I would just as soon see this issue resolved one way or the other by the time
I get to that point in my build. I know this doesn't help the people that are
past this point and going to have to do a retro fit. (either way I would like
to know if I need to make the purchase and spend another $1200.00 or have a
new design from MAM).
Just my thought, let me know what you all think??????

Thanks.
Bob moose/191






-> > Hi Garry,
-> >
-> > I don't have any personal experience with the 2000. If it is a smaller
version of the 3200 I would guess it's a good tail wheel. I think it might be
a little to light for a Rebel though if you plan to use it off pavement.
-> >
-> > Bruce
-> >
-> > -----Original Message-----
-> > From: wrightdg <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
-> > Sent: Aug 8, 2005 9:19 PM
-> > To: rebel builders <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel
-> >
-> > Bruce,
-> >
-> > I take it then that your rational is to go with the Scott for saftey
-> > reasons. What's wrong with the 2000?
-> >
-> > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:55 -0400, Bruce Georgen wrote:
-> > > Garry,
-> > >
-> > > The Scott tail wheel will not break loss and caster on you when you
give the rudder a boot while your landing in a cross wind some day, making you
a weather vane and sending you into a ground loop that will cost you a lot
more than the price of the Scott tail wheel.
-> > >
-> > > I have seen several planes wrecked by a ground loop but never one with
a Scott tail wheel. Ever! I have yet to meet a high time experienced tail
wheel pilot who does not endorse the virtues of the Scott tail wheel.
-> > >
-> > > It made all the difference in the handling of my Kitfox and I have
never flown My Rebel without one. I have witness the destruction of two Kitfox
with other types of tail wheels. I'm a believer. So much so I "gave away" the
Maule I removed from the Kitfox to another Kitfox driver who insisted I sell
it to him. didn't have the heart to ask him for money. I tried to convince
him to buy the Scott.
-> > >
-> > > For what it's worth.
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > Bruce
-> > >
-> > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > From: wrightdg <wrightdg@davincibb.net>
-> > > Sent: Aug 8, 2005 12:45 AM
-> > > To: rebel builders <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> > > Subject: Re: Rebel tail wheel
-> > >
-> > > It seems to me that most of the group express a preference for Scott
-> > > tailwheels - in spite of the rapidly rising and ridiculous price for the
-> > > 3200. It weighs 8# maybe and costs pretty close to $200 Canadian per
-> > > pound. Thats not as much as gold but getting there.
-> > >
-> > > There are two reasons given for the preference for Scott. Primarily
-> > > people point to it and say - it won't give you a tailwheel induced
-> > > ground loop if you maintain it properly. The second thing is the
-> > > pneumatic tire on the 3200 which all who have it delight in. Its pretty
-> > > hard to get a good handle on which motive predominates but the motive
-> > > should be clear when buying precious metal.
-> > >
-> > > For safety the Scott is said to be superior - go with the 2000. I just
-> > > got one used but in good condition on ebay for about $200 Canadian. I'm
-> > > not sure about the safety claim but needed the tailwheel anyway so thats
-> > > the way I went.
-> > >
-> > > For comfort, any pneumatic will do. You don't need the gold one. Which
-> > > motive are you driven by? Both? Hmmm! Am I missing something here?
-> > >
-> > > Garry
-> > >
-> > > On Sun, 2005-07-08 at 23:08 -0400, Ken wrote:
-> > > > For a Rebel, I thought I'd try a pneumatic Matco at about US$200. if
I'm
-> > > > not happy with the MAM unit.
-> > > > We know the Scott works well but it seems a bit pricey!
-> > > > Ken
-> > > >
-> > > > Bruce Georgen wrote:
-> > > >
-> > > > >Ian,
-> > > > >
-> > > > >Take the MAM tail wheel off and throw it away before you destroy
your whole planewith it! Or give it to your worst enemey. Then buy a Scott
3200. It will be the best insurance policy you ever bought. That's my opinion
and the same advice I recieved from a very experienced pilot who would not fly
in my first project (Kitfox with a Maule tail wheel) until I changed it. He
was right.
-> > > > >
-> > > > >
-> > > > >Bruce
-> > > > >
-> > > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
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