[rebel-builders] Wheel landings

[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Yep...what Drew says!

Howard, 10 years after first hitting the sky with his Rebel and after 7
years of flying amphibs had to go get 10 hrs dual on wheels before they'd
give him inflight again...and then when I put him back on Amphibs this June
he had to find a CFI with Amphib time that was willing to give him a check
ride before they'd cover him again on floats...so you never know. Then again
you haven't cost them what Howard has either!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Dalgleish" <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] wheel landings

At 06:34 PM 10/22/2006 -0800, you wrote:

Well, whattaya know. So someone new to tailwheels will need to
demonstrate
wheel landings, but someone like me with tailwheel time before the cutoff
never needs to show that I can do them.

Mike
044SR

Never say never Mike What the FAA will let you get away with doesn't mean
your insurance comany won't screw ya by sending you out for more dual.
Drew



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[Ron Shannon]

Charlie, I'd sure like to get to watch you bring in a DC-3. A pretty
sight, no doubt.

Another way to describe it: A fraction of a second after the mains,
cabin and wings stop their descent at touchdown, apply just enough
forward stick to stop the _tail_ from continuing _its_ descent. Doesn't
take much. If you don't stop the _tail_ from continuing to go down (and
you have proper airspeed) the angle of attack and lift will increase, of
course, causing the mains to come off, which looks and feels a lot like
-- a bounce. (Personally, I prefer to think of stopping the tail's
descent rather than holding the mains on. In my noggin' the latter
thought is more likely to lead me to apply too much forward stick.) Then
gradually apply more & more forward stick to stay in a level attitude as
airspeed diminishes, for most of the roll out. That's the fun part.

The most points are awarded for holding level attitude as long as
possible, while still being able to gently lower the tail without
dropping (bouncing) it at the end of the roll out. :-)

Ron


Charlie Starr wrote:
...

But use caution - the amount of forward pressure required should be only enough to hold the mains on - not to force the airplane into (or on to) the ground.

Charlie Starr SR 065

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[eric.r]

You would if I was giving the BFR and you brought a tail dragger! Then again
if you were helicopter rated and multi rated and we did the BFR in a Bell 47
you would be good to go in either a Sikorsky jolly green or a C-150, Pitts, or
DC-3 for another two years ... no rhyme nor reason to many of the FAR's,
common sense shal not prevail!
On 10/22/2006 6:34 PM, mkimball@gci.net wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Well, whattaya know. So someone new to tailwheels will need to
demonstrate
-> wheel landings, but someone like me with tailwheel time before the cutoff
-> never needs to show that I can do them.
->
-> Mike
-> 044SR
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
S A
-> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:57 AM
-> To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] wheel landings
->
-> FWIW the FAR 61.31 does spell out exactly what must be accomplished.
->
-> "(i) Normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings;
-> (ii) Wheel landings (unless the manufacturer has recommended against
such
-> landings); and
-> (iii) Go-around procedures."
->
->
-> On 10/21/06, Mike Kimball <mkimball@gci.net> wrote:
-> >
-> > The instructer providing the tailwheel endorsement decides what he or
she
-> > wants to see from their student before they endorse their logbook. The
-> > FARs
-> > do not spell out what is required AFAIK. Just like the Flight
-> > Review. The
-> > instructor can chose whatever he or she deems appropriate for the
required
-> > one hour of flight time and one hour of ground time. Also, AFAIK, there
-> > is
-> > no minimum amount of time required for the tailwheel endorsement. I
-> > haven't
-> > dug out the FAR/AIM in a while but I'm not even sure that it says the
-> > instructer providing the endorsement has to fly with the candidate for
the
-> > endorsement. Of course I think that would be pretty irresponsible of the
-> > instructor.
-> >
-> >
->
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