torqe tube travel

[Ryan Amendala]

Wayne,

You mentioned these cups (and other great info) a while back. With amphibs
we are not located at a seabase ( I am not even sure where the nearest one
is) so do you have the phone number of Lake n Air?

Thanks

Ryan


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com> (Murphy Rebel Builders List)
To: "Murphy Rebel Builders List" <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: torqe tube travel
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:29:11 -0500

Ryan, I don't think this control "rod end" issue was ever addressed by
Murphy, they where fine having it thread in and out, in and out, in and
out,!!!!

Sounds like your are making good progress on your kit!!!!! Float
instructions are pretty good, but make sure you order a set of 20 aluminum
pump out cups from Lake n Air (or your local base) and their good rubber
plugs with the pull cord. Also note that, Howard is tired of replacing the
black Sea Dog inspection cover rings, as they constantly get stepped on and
broken. I suggest if you are using the pump out cups you won't need in there
much anyway so make up some aluminum plates to cover holes. Could just screw
down or use quick fasteners.

Blue skies,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Amendala <longpup@hotmail.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: torqe tube travel

Wayne,

This also is not entirely true. We have rebel kit 669. Received kit in
September'99 and still have an old manual. We are installing the

controlls

now and notice the same restrictions. We just picked up the floats this
week, hope the instructions are better!

BB&R Amendala
Rebel #669


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com> (Murphy Rebel Builders List)
To: "Murphy Rebel Builders List" <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Subject: Re: torqe tube travel
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:23:53 -0500

Who knows Bob, no one gets updates to the manual other than people that

buy

the newer kits! I should know, I have 5 manual sets on my book

shelf!!!!(no

updates received for at least 4 years - not even the float fix bulletin

and

I'm the guy that tried to get this one going in the first place!))

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Patterson <bob.patterson@canrem.com>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: torqe tube travel

I thought the manual had been changed long ago on this one !

.....bobp

--------------------------------orig.--------------------------------------

At 09:45 PM 1/28/00 -0500, you wrote:

Rich,

If you look closely at the instructions, they do show to leave the nut

off

the contol coluum end. I didn't like the idea either (along with many

others

Jack W. etc.), so cut 2 short (3/16" long) pieces of 1/4" I.D X 5/16"

O.D.

steel tube and put one directly above and below the ball in the rod

end.

This will allow the rod end to swivel more on the ball and allow full

travel

of the stick.(and allow you to lock nut both ends!) I know Bob, yours

has

been threading in and out for miles and miles, but this is an easy fix

and

sooner or later that aluminum tube ends threads have got to get tired!!

Also, if you want all your rod end areas to look cleaner and have more
clearance to pinch points! Use a AN970-3 Penny Washer drilled to 1/4",
instead of the spelled out AN970-4 Washers. The -3's are the same

diameter

as the rod end to retain them, as opposed to the -4's that are away
oversize.

Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Bartman <rbartman@usa.net>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 7:27 PM
Subject: torqe tube travel


When I built my rebel I found that with both lock nuts tightened on the
short
torque tube from the main controll tube to the first belcrank, the
elevevator
travel was restricted. I asked tech support (Francis) about this and he

said

remove one of the lock nuts. Now when thw stick is used for eleveator
controll
the movement is in the threads on the bearing end. One of the Rebel

Rouser

builders has the same problem and has been told by three a&p's that

this

is

not acceptable. Any comments?
Rich

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[Alister Yeoman]

Hi all,
Yes, congratulations to all who came up with that idea! I had not
heard of it but will be doing it before I get back into the air.

Thanks

Alister

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From: Rebflyer@aol.com <Rebflyer@aol.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: torqe tube travel

Hi All,
I have to heartly agree with Wayne in that I have seen what allowing a
hines joint to thread and unthread will do. I bet if Bob puts some end load
on the thread it will show signs of movement. Movement means wear, to much
wear and you know the rest. A test pilot I know makes that part of his

check

list when flying a aircraft for the FIRST time. The fix isn't that tough,

and

no rerigging will have to be done.
Keep up the good keepum safe ideas, and Keep at it, it's worth it.

Cuurt

N97MR
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