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Mike Betti

Cabin forward building

Post by Mike Betti » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:43 am

Thanks,
I'm not sure what to do yet for that floor. I was thinking of the witches
hat too but didn't want it hanging out there on the outside.
Mike
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Subject: RE: Cabin forward building

Hi Mike

The forward carrythrough must have its ends angled back to clear the 452.
I
had already cut mine back before I fitted the 452, but still had to file
it
back on the lower edges to allow a small clearance to prevent it catching
the 452.

I did not add a fold below the FUS-9, but am still happy with the way it
looks.

I replaced the avex rivets in my door post with cherrymax all the way to
make it stronger. I've also added Wayne's firewall stiffeners, and 2 under
floor strips of witches hat to strengthen the under rudder pedal area.

Nigel
745E


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Sent: 09 July 2005 23:15
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I have it this way also and I don't like the way it hugs the carrythrough.
Is it supposed to be like that? I just as soon cut it short of the strut
bracket.
Also, I forgot to ask. The side panels are mentioned in the manual of a
crease in them near where they attach to the carrythrough vertical. Mine
don't have this, I was thinking maybe I should put one in it to match the
fus 9??
Thanks,
Mike Betti
771E
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: Cabin forward building

Hi Mike

I slotted mine to allow the forward of the two strut bracket halves to
fit
through. The FUS-452 then picks up the rivet line up and down the
vertical
door posts. It helps if you can get the use of a shrinker to contract the
underneath of the 452 beneath the spring gear saddles to help it follow
the
curvature of the forward fuselage.

Nigel
745E

-----Original Message-----
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Mike Betti
Sent: 09 July 2005 21:37
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building


Thanks for the info all,
I'm using the fus-452's for the forward lower corners, how are they
fitted?
Do they need to be sloted to go around the strut bracket attach point or
do
they end up just short of it?
Thanks,
Mike Betti
771E


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building

Mike:

There's a picture of my panel in the archives, (E Panels/Panel FGAH),
plus
I
just uploaded one of the nose section under construction to E Fuselage,
which may help.

On the panel glare shield, you could trim the nose top skin off flush
aft
of
the panel, or let it protrude and roll it round as advised by Ralph, but
I
went a little further, and it worked out really nice (IMHO!), as shown
in
the picture. Trim it flush with the panel, then build a fiberglass
glareshield that protrudes aft about 2", and down about an inch. Curve
the
edges nicely so if your head hits it, you don't do too much damage (to
the
head!). Paint it matt black. Then install one of those
electroluminescent
lighting strips (e.g. www.aeroenhancements.com) under the glareshield
where
you can't see it, but it provides nice uniform illumination to the
entire
panel.

Hope this helps.

Al

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building

clecos on to the firewall ok with 2 prepunched holes but on the panel
end
it
would have to be cut off 2-3" and cut to match the V's of the panel.
What
adds to the confusion is there are 3 prepunched holes on that end of the
piece that would end up getting cut off in the process. Also the fus-433
has
2 creases in it to aid in going on something with a curve which I don't
under stand. 3", the level along the Either still the join in engine doesn't


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Mike Betti

Cabin forward building

Post by Mike Betti » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:43 am

Thanks,
I was thinking that the hard edge of the vertical carrythough will work
against the panel if it is not creased.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building

Hi Mike, not all the side panels in these kits are creased... and they
really don't need to be, but it does look much nicer when they are creased
and you have that nice line all the way down the side of the plane.

Mike
195SR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@up.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building

I have it this way also and I don't like the way it hugs the carrythrough.
Is it supposed to be like that? I just as soon cut it short of the strut
bracket.
Also, I forgot to ask. The side panels are mentioned in the manual of a
crease in them near where they attach to the carrythrough vertical. Mine
don't have this, I was thinking maybe I should put one in it to match the
fus 9??
Thanks,
Mike Betti
771E
----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: Cabin forward building

Hi Mike

I slotted mine to allow the forward of the two strut bracket halves to
fit
through. The FUS-452 then picks up the rivet line up and down the
vertical
door posts. It helps if you can get the use of a shrinker to contract
the
underneath of the 452 beneath the spring gear saddles to help it follow
the
curvature of the forward fuselage.

Nigel
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Mike Betti
Sent: 09 July 2005 21:37
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building


Thanks for the info all,
I'm using the fus-452's for the forward lower corners, how are they
fitted?
Do they need to be sloted to go around the strut bracket attach point or
do
they end up just short of it?
Thanks,
Mike Betti
771E


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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building



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Alan Hepburn

Cabin forward building

Post by Alan Hepburn » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:43 am

Mike:

Take a look in the archives at Floor.jpg. If you don't want anything on the
outside, you can't get a floor much flatter than that. And do put a break
in the side skins - looks better. I brought FUS-452 aft around the strut
bracket and rivited it to the door post, but did have trouble getting a good
fit below that where it curves round to line up with the floor, as it
introduces a compound curve. No matter what I did, there always seemed to
be some residual stress in the material, which would clearly lead to it
cracking. I wound up cutting the area out and putting in a separate part.
As Nigel says, some careful work with a shrinker/stretcher might do it.

Al
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From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@up.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building

Thanks,
I'm not sure what to do yet for that floor. I was thinking of the witches
hat too but didn't want it hanging out there on the outside.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 4:22 AM
Subject: RE: Cabin forward building

Hi Mike

The forward carrythrough must have its ends angled back to clear the
452.
I
had already cut mine back before I fitted the 452, but still had to file
it
back on the lower edges to allow a small clearance to prevent it
catching
the 452.

I did not add a fold below the FUS-9, but am still happy with the way it
looks.

I replaced the avex rivets in my door post with cherrymax all the way to
make it stronger. I've also added Wayne's firewall stiffeners, and 2
under
floor strips of witches hat to strengthen the under rudder pedal area.

Nigel
745E


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Mike Betti
Sent: 09 July 2005 23:15
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building


I have it this way also and I don't like the way it hugs the
carrythrough.
Is it supposed to be like that? I just as soon cut it short of the strut
bracket.
Also, I forgot to ask. The side panels are mentioned in the manual of a
crease in them near where they attach to the carrythrough vertical. Mine
don't have this, I was thinking maybe I should put one in it to match
the
fus 9??
Thanks,
Mike Betti
771E
----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: Cabin forward building

Hi Mike

I slotted mine to allow the forward of the two strut bracket halves to
fit
through. The FUS-452 then picks up the rivet line up and down the
vertical
door posts. It helps if you can get the use of a shrinker to contract
the
underneath of the 452 beneath the spring gear saddles to help it follow
the
curvature of the forward fuselage.

Nigel
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Mike Betti
Sent: 09 July 2005 21:37
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building


Thanks for the info all,
I'm using the fus-452's for the forward lower corners, how are they
fitted?
Do they need to be sloted to go around the strut bracket attach point
or
do
they end up just short of it?
Thanks,
Mike Betti
771E


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Cabin forward building

Fuselage,
but
Curve
It
the
fus-433
don't
was
(about
did,
about
and
firewall.
(photos
to
on
replace
piece
the


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