Jeff: I emailed
shipping@murphyair.com. I want to purchase an upgrade kit if
I can get one. I have not received a response yet. I would like to know what
I will be getting along with all of the other necessary particulars. This
project is not started yet. I want to incorporate the conversion into the
build. If PAS is going to sell the upgrade kit, I would like to know what I
will be getting and what is the cost. I do not need another set of wheels to
hang from the wall of my hanger. I build the aircraft as a float plane
because there are not many runways on the Rock. I am hoping to get some
paperwork from MAM soon so I can move forward.
Bruce Rose
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Waltman
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:33 PM
To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel/Moose Upgrade
Good points Jeff. Thanks!
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Micheal
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:38 PM
To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Super Rebel/Moose Upgrade
Ted,
If one has purchased an SR2500, it is a SR2500.
If one has purchased an SR2500 and then purchased the conversion kit upgrade
designed/engineered by MAM (fuselage, wings, control surfaces and windshield
- approximately 60 + parts to change) then one has a SR3500
(Moose) and you can therefore register the a/c as a SR3500 (Moose) since you
have the paperwork from MAM noting the conversion from SR2500 to SR3500.
Some buyers bought the "Moose" upgrade when it was offered to them, after
there original purchase of the "Super Rebel". Incorporated the changes into
their build as they built.
For one to take a flying SR2500 and incorporate the MAM conversion kit (all
parts) would not be cost effective.
For one to take a flying SR2500 and incorporate MAM's Service Bulletins or
part upgrades as listed on the website does NOT turn your SR2500 into a
SR3500. All you have is a slightly beefier SR2500.
One can call their A/C whatever they like and register the gross weight at
whatever they like. Remember when you want to change from being the builder,
to being manufacturer....... you better be prepared to stand behind your
product on resale and take all responsibilities for design.
Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen if the new owner ever has a accident
or worse.
There are built to spec Moose out there sporting a registered gross weight
of 4000 to 4500 lbs.
I've also seen SR2500's out there for sale...... advertised as Moose because
they did the mods listed on the MAM website.
Buyers be very aware of what you are buying, it might not be what they say
it is.
Cheers,
Have a great weekend.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Ted Waltman <
ted@vafm.org> wrote:
Jeff,
Do I understand you correctly? I assume what you're saying that if
one has an SR kit--and has not yet licensed/had it inspected--then if
one does the SR-to-Moose upgrade one has to license it as an SR since
that is what is shown on the Murphy bill-of-sale to the original
builder. Yet one can then license it at the factory Moose recommended
gross weight of 3,500 lbs.
Hence your point is calling it a "Super Rebel" rather than a "Moose."
Of course, one can call it whatever one wants to since the builder is
the manufacturer--that is the key point, or at least that's the way I
understand the FAA regs.
If the above is not what your below comment refers to, then please
elaborate...
Thank you,
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Jeff Micheal
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:54 PM
To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] #5 Hinge Rear spar for wing Super
Rebel/Moose Upgrade
Bruce,
MAM was going to put some conversion kits together, but not sure if
they had enough interested parties. There's about 30 parts in the
Fuselage and about the same amount for the wing, plus the upgraded
windscreen.
Remember doing the SR3500 (Moose) mods and upgrades listed on the MAM
site
http://www.pattersonaerosales.com/Aircr ... chSpt.html doesn't
turn your SR2500 (Super Rebel) into a Moose.
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