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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 pm

Hi Charlie !

If you really want to save weight, you can just use PolyFiber
fabric, like the early Rebels. They had a wooden half-dowel
for leading edge roundness, and just fabric covering ....

I use Lexan myself - it's easy to see through for drilling,
and you can paint it, leaving tape in strategic spots for
pre-flight "windows" . Have used several different thicknesses.
It's really easy to bend & re-bend - found the aluminum
cracked easily.

For aluminum, I would go to .025 to avoid cracks from vibration.
Best to make a bent piece for front & back, & separate
triangles for the sides - many have held these on with
PK screws, for easy removal ... and bend up a channel
to fasten to the back of the front gear leg to fasten the
fairing to -- holes in the gear leg are forbidden !

Lexan makes great fairings for the bungees too ... ;-)

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bobp@prosumers.ca
bobp@pattersys.com
http://www.Pattersys.com
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On May 31, 2011 05:56:03 pm Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hello All

After an un-successful search of the archives, my question is what is the
"minimum recommend aluminum thickness" for the landing gear cover? I made
up a "One piece" rap-around cover (per Luscombe's design) from scrap .016
aluminum that weighs in at 4.21 Lbs / set of two (less the hardware
weight), or from calculations 5.27 Lbs. from .020, & 6.52 Lbs. from .025.

Charlie E. 802R

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Roland Kriening

[rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Post by Roland Kriening » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 pm

Hi Charlie,

I am not familiar with the Luscombe design. Do you have some pics of yours?
I need to make mine soon as well.

Roland
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Hello All

After an un-successful search of the archives, my question is what is the
"minimum recommend aluminum thickness" for the landing gear cover? I made up

a "One piece" rap-around cover (per Luscombe's design) from scrap .016
aluminum that weighs in at 4.21 Lbs / set of two (less the hardware weight),

or from calculations 5.27 Lbs. from .020, & 6.52 Lbs. from .025.

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Ken

[rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Post by Ken » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 pm

0.020 has held up fine for me Charlie but much likely depends on how
well it is fastened. I used lots of screws but it still chafed a bit so
I will add some tape under them when I reinstall them. A few creases in
them similar to the fuselage sides also helps stiffen them.
Ken

On 5/31/2011 5:56 PM, Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hello All

After an un-successful search of the archives, my question is what is the
"minimum recommend aluminum thickness" for the landing gear cover? I made up
a "One piece" rap-around cover (per Luscombe's design) from scrap .016
aluminum that weighs in at 4.21 Lbs / set of two (less the hardware weight),
or from calculations 5.27 Lbs. from .020,& 6.52 Lbs. from .025.

Charlie E. 802R

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Charlie Eubanks

[rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Post by Charlie Eubanks » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 pm

Thanks for the info Ken the chafe tape is a good idea and 020 sounds good.
Charlie
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0.020 has held up fine for me Charlie but much likely depends on how
well it is fastened. I used lots of screws but it still chafed a bit so
I will add some tape under them when I reinstall them. A few creases in
them similar to the fuselage sides also helps stiffen them.
Ken

On 5/31/2011 5:56 PM, Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hello All

After an un-successful search of the archives, my question is what is the
"minimum recommend aluminum thickness" for the landing gear cover? I made
up
a "One piece" rap-around cover (per Luscombe's design) from scrap .016
aluminum that weighs in at 4.21 Lbs / set of two (less the hardware
weight),
or from calculations 5.27 Lbs. from .020,& 6.52 Lbs. from .025.

Charlie E. 802R

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Charlie Eubanks

[rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Post by Charlie Eubanks » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 pm

Hi Bob
I gave the PolyFiber some serious though, was concerned it might be more
susceptible to damage from rocks, propwash etc. Hard to find out what the
weight difference would be between aluminum and the fabric. I estimate I
have added about 12 Lbs to the LG wt. Between the die springs, larger tires
and aluminum covers. I agree .025 would be mim thickness. I guess there
really Ain't no free lunch. Hope to see you at Oshkosh. Thanks
Charlie E.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Hi Charlie !

If you really want to save weight, you can just use PolyFiber
fabric, like the early Rebels. They had a wooden half-dowel
for leading edge roundness, and just fabric covering ....

I use Lexan myself - it's easy to see through for drilling,
and you can paint it, leaving tape in strategic spots for
pre-flight "windows" . Have used several different thicknesses.
It's really easy to bend & re-bend - found the aluminum
cracked easily.

For aluminum, I would go to .025 to avoid cracks from vibration.
Best to make a bent piece for front & back, & separate
triangles for the sides - many have held these on with
PK screws, for easy removal ... and bend up a channel
to fasten to the back of the front gear leg to fasten the
fairing to -- holes in the gear leg are forbidden !

Lexan makes great fairings for the bungees too ... ;-)

--

......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
bobp@pattersys.com
http://www.Pattersys.com
http://www.amway.ca/BobPatterson

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On May 31, 2011 05:56:03 pm Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hello All

After an un-successful search of the archives, my question is what is the
"minimum recommend aluminum thickness" for the landing gear cover? I made
up a "One piece" rap-around cover (per Luscombe's design) from scrap .016
aluminum that weighs in at 4.21 Lbs / set of two (less the hardware
weight), or from calculations 5.27 Lbs. from .020, & 6.52 Lbs. from .025.

Charlie E. 802R

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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 pm

Hi Charlie !

The fabric worked really well - gravel bars in rivers, sandy strips,
Klutzy passengers with big feet .... We flew one Rebel with fabric
covered gear for over 10 years with no problems ... It's still flying,
after 20 years ... still with fabric covered legs ...

I went to Lexan on later Rebels so I could see inside, and also
taper the trailing edge further, for cleaner aerodynamics ...
every little bit helps ! Did have a problem with a bad batch
of Lexan - the stuff is supposed to be bulletproof, and easy
as wood to work, but that lot cracked after a few years ... :-(
(Bargain store ... )

Look forward to meeting again at Oshkosh -- Builders Bash
on Tuesday July 26th, 4 pm on, at the Moose ! :-)

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......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
bobp@pattersys.com
http://www.Pattersys.com
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On June 2, 2011 09:11:00 am Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hi Bob
I gave the PolyFiber some serious though, was concerned it might be more
susceptible to damage from rocks, propwash etc. Hard to find out what the
weight difference would be between aluminum and the fabric. I estimate I
have added about 12 Lbs to the LG wt. Between the die springs, larger
tires and aluminum covers. I agree .025 would be mim thickness. I guess
there really Ain't no free lunch. Hope to see you at Oshkosh. Thanks
Charlie E.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Landing gear cover
Hi Charlie !

If you really want to save weight, you can just use PolyFiber

fabric, like the early Rebels. They had a wooden half-dowel
for leading edge roundness, and just fabric covering ....

I use Lexan myself - it's easy to see through for drilling,

and you can paint it, leaving tape in strategic spots for
pre-flight "windows" . Have used several different thicknesses.
It's really easy to bend & re-bend - found the aluminum
cracked easily.

For aluminum, I would go to .025 to avoid cracks from vibration.

Best to make a bent piece for front & back, & separate
triangles for the sides - many have held these on with
PK screws, for easy removal ... and bend up a channel
to fasten to the back of the front gear leg to fasten the
fairing to -- holes in the gear leg are forbidden !

Lexan makes great fairings for the bungees too ... ;-)

......bobp

bobp@prosumers.ca
bobp@pattersys.com

http://www.Pattersys.com

http://www.amway.ca/BobPatterson

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On May 31, 2011 05:56:03 pm Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hello All

After an un-successful search of the archives, my question is what is
the "minimum recommend aluminum thickness" for the landing gear cover?
I made up a "One piece" rap-around cover (per Luscombe's design) from
scrap .016 aluminum that weighs in at 4.21 Lbs / set of two (less the
hardware weight), or from calculations 5.27 Lbs. from .020, & 6.52 Lbs.
from .025.

Charlie E. 802R
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Drew Dalgleish

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Post by Drew Dalgleish » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 pm

I used poly fibre on my gear legs and the only damage so far is from me
dropping a clamp on one. It's also good practice for doing your flaperons.

On 02/06/2011 9:11 AM, Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hi Bob
I gave the PolyFiber some serious though, was concerned it might be more
susceptible to damage from rocks, propwash etc. Hard to find out what the
weight difference would be between aluminum and the fabric. I estimate I
have added about 12 Lbs to the LG wt. Between the die springs, larger tires
and aluminum covers. I agree .025 would be mim thickness. I guess there
really Ain't no free lunch. Hope to see you at Oshkosh. Thanks
Charlie E.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson"<bobp@prosumers.ca>
To:<rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Hi Charlie !

If you really want to save weight, you can just use PolyFiber
fabric, like the early Rebels. They had a wooden half-dowel
for leading edge roundness, and just fabric covering ....

I use Lexan myself - it's easy to see through for drilling,
and you can paint it, leaving tape in strategic spots for
pre-flight "windows" . Have used several different thicknesses.
It's really easy to bend& re-bend - found the aluminum
cracked easily.

For aluminum, I would go to .025 to avoid cracks from vibration.
Best to make a bent piece for front& back,& separate
triangles for the sides - many have held these on with
PK screws, for easy removal ... and bend up a channel
to fasten to the back of the front gear leg to fasten the
fairing to -- holes in the gear leg are forbidden !

Lexan makes great fairings for the bungees too ... ;-)

--

......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
bobp@pattersys.com
http://www.Pattersys.com
http://www.amway.ca/BobPatterson

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On May 31, 2011 05:56:03 pm Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hello All

After an un-successful search of the archives, my question is what is the
"minimum recommend aluminum thickness" for the landing gear cover? I made
up a "One piece" rap-around cover (per Luscombe's design) from scrap .016
aluminum that weighs in at 4.21 Lbs / set of two (less the hardware
weight), or from calculations 5.27 Lbs. from .020,& 6.52 Lbs. from .025.

Charlie E. 802R
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Charlie Eubanks

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Post by Charlie Eubanks » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:51 pm

Thanks for the reply Drew
If making the aluminum gear covers becomes to difficult/heavy I will give
the poly fiber a try.
Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Dalgleish" <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

I used poly fibre on my gear legs and the only damage so far is from me
dropping a clamp on one. It's also good practice for doing your flaperons.

On 02/06/2011 9:11 AM, Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hi Bob
I gave the PolyFiber some serious though, was concerned it might be more
susceptible to damage from rocks, propwash etc. Hard to find out what the
weight difference would be between aluminum and the fabric. I estimate I
have added about 12 Lbs to the LG wt. Between the die springs, larger
tires
and aluminum covers. I agree .025 would be mim thickness. I guess there
really Ain't no free lunch. Hope to see you at Oshkosh. Thanks
Charlie E.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson"<bobp@prosumers.ca>
To:<rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Landing gear cover

Hi Charlie !

If you really want to save weight, you can just use PolyFiber
fabric, like the early Rebels. They had a wooden half-dowel
for leading edge roundness, and just fabric covering ....

I use Lexan myself - it's easy to see through for drilling,
and you can paint it, leaving tape in strategic spots for
pre-flight "windows" . Have used several different thicknesses.
It's really easy to bend& re-bend - found the aluminum
cracked easily.

For aluminum, I would go to .025 to avoid cracks from vibration.
Best to make a bent piece for front& back,& separate
triangles for the sides - many have held these on with
PK screws, for easy removal ... and bend up a channel
to fasten to the back of the front gear leg to fasten the
fairing to -- holes in the gear leg are forbidden !

Lexan makes great fairings for the bungees too ... ;-)

--

......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
bobp@pattersys.com
http://www.Pattersys.com
http://www.amway.ca/BobPatterson

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