Ray Watson
About 3 years ago I saw a beautiful V-8 Chevy set up in a running mock-up
with a constant speed prop. I was drooling over it. It was supposed to fit
in a Murphy Lyc cowl. You might find it helpful to check in with Bud at the
address below. His set up was complete with motor mount ready to bolt on.
Supply your own Prop and Governor, hook it up and run it. The gear box
looks bullet-proof & his design eliminates any harmonics.
Bud Warren; geareddrives@yahoo.com Phyllis Ridings
(phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com)
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Eduardo Gutierrez Sosa
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
stinger
Hi Ray: Your address appears (apparently correct by its spelling) in your
message, although it differs by one word to the one you show below. I used
to contact Mr. Jason Day from Vesta V8 (vestav8.com), but his page does not
appear as such any longer, Regards, Eduardo
-----Mensaje original-----
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Thanks for the feedback Dick. I already have the engine, mount, gearbox and prop assemblies......so it is a matter of finding a cowling set up that will work with my configuration. I will check on the Murphy Lyc. cowling and see if that may work for my application, as well as touch base with Bud.
Thanks much!......Ray.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Wampach <rwampach@att.net>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: Bud Warren <geareddrives@yahoo.com>; Phyllis Ridings <phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 5:30 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] V-8
Ray Watson
About 3 years ago I saw a beautiful V-8 Chevy set up in a running mock-up
ith a constant speed prop. I was drooling over it. It was supposed to fit
n a Murphy Lyc cowl. You might find it helpful to check in with Bud at the
ddress below. His set up was complete with motor mount ready to bolt on.
upply your own Prop and Governor, hook it up and run it. The gear box
ooks bullet-proof & his design eliminates any harmonics.
ud Warren; geareddrives@yahoo.com Phyllis Ridings
phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com)
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
-----Original Message-----
rom: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
duardo Gutierrez Sosa
ent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:04 PM
o: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
ubject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
i Ray: Your address appears (apparently correct by its spelling) in your
essage, although it differs by one word to the one you show below. I used
o contact Mr. Jason Day from Vesta V8 (vestav8.com), but his page does not
ppear as such any longer, Regards, Eduardo
-----Mensaje original-----
e: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] En nombre de
lypegasus628@aol.com Enviado el: miércoles, 01 de diciembre de 2010 01:51
.m.
ara: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
sunto: Re: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
ello Rebel builders. I am new to the group, having recently purchased a
uper Rebel, which has since been completely disassembled and is now headed
n the direction of becoming a Moose. I appreciate being able to monitor
he ongoing conversations that are of interest in a number of areas.
As a part of my Moose conversion, I am looking for a source for a well
esigned fiberglass cowling for the V8 application that I will install in my
ircraft. Would appreciate any direction to good sources and feedback that
ny of you have to offer.
I am not sure if my email address is displayed since I may be being Bcc'd on
ommunications so here is for future communications:
flypeagasus628@aol.com
Thanks.
Ray Watson
-----Original Message-----
rom: Eduardo Gutierrez Sosa <lopeco.eduardo@gmail.com>
o: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
ent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 8:40 am
ubject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
Hi Ted: Thank you anyway; I'll keep waiting for someone else who may give me
re information, best regards, Eduardo -----Mensaje original-----
: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] En nombre de Ted
ltman nviado el: miércoles, 01 de diciembre de 2010 10:44 a.m.
ra: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
unto: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
inger Hello Eduardo, I've heard/seen the name but I don't know anything
ro/con regarding the ompany or his service. Sorry I can't help on that
ne. Ted -----Original Message-----
om: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of duardo
utierrez Sosa
nt: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:28 AM
: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
bject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
inger Hi Ted: I am interested in ordering a PT6 turbine for my Moose; it's
dness, it's expensive, but it's sweet been able to fly high and a little
ster, plus a lot smoooooooother than with the M14P radial. Would you appen
o know, and this question goes for all who may know (or have heard bout
im) this person and his firm; it would put my mind at ease. Any help t all
ill be welcome. This is he: Vincent Gagnon-Pouliot, President erotek
viation Inc. 07, Suite 110, 6th Avenue uebec Airport, Qc anada 2G 2T4 Best
egards group, thanks much, regards, Eduardo
S.: After the installation I would be interested in selling my radial, now
th 248 hours total time, all its accessories (air start, alternator nstead
f generator, exhaust system with two heating muffs, Performance irflow
njection system instead of its carburetor, automobile plugs and ilicone
igh tension wires, oil system and shutoff valve, oil recovery ystem, and
he list goes on and on), 102" MT three blade propeller and pinner, cowling,
iaphragm style cowl flap as the Sukhois use in the front f the engine to
eep the engine warm.
stallation may take a few months, so this is just for your information for
e time being.
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Thanks much!......Ray.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Wampach <rwampach@att.net>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: Bud Warren <geareddrives@yahoo.com>; Phyllis Ridings <phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 5:30 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] V-8
Ray Watson
About 3 years ago I saw a beautiful V-8 Chevy set up in a running mock-up
ith a constant speed prop. I was drooling over it. It was supposed to fit
n a Murphy Lyc cowl. You might find it helpful to check in with Bud at the
ddress below. His set up was complete with motor mount ready to bolt on.
upply your own Prop and Governor, hook it up and run it. The gear box
ooks bullet-proof & his design eliminates any harmonics.
ud Warren; geareddrives@yahoo.com Phyllis Ridings
phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com)
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
-----Original Message-----
rom: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
duardo Gutierrez Sosa
ent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:04 PM
o: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
ubject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
i Ray: Your address appears (apparently correct by its spelling) in your
essage, although it differs by one word to the one you show below. I used
o contact Mr. Jason Day from Vesta V8 (vestav8.com), but his page does not
ppear as such any longer, Regards, Eduardo
-----Mensaje original-----
e: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] En nombre de
lypegasus628@aol.com Enviado el: miércoles, 01 de diciembre de 2010 01:51
.m.
ara: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
sunto: Re: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
ello Rebel builders. I am new to the group, having recently purchased a
uper Rebel, which has since been completely disassembled and is now headed
n the direction of becoming a Moose. I appreciate being able to monitor
he ongoing conversations that are of interest in a number of areas.
As a part of my Moose conversion, I am looking for a source for a well
esigned fiberglass cowling for the V8 application that I will install in my
ircraft. Would appreciate any direction to good sources and feedback that
ny of you have to offer.
I am not sure if my email address is displayed since I may be being Bcc'd on
ommunications so here is for future communications:
flypeagasus628@aol.com
Thanks.
Ray Watson
-----Original Message-----
rom: Eduardo Gutierrez Sosa <lopeco.eduardo@gmail.com>
o: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
ent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 8:40 am
ubject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
Hi Ted: Thank you anyway; I'll keep waiting for someone else who may give me
re information, best regards, Eduardo -----Mensaje original-----
: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] En nombre de Ted
ltman nviado el: miércoles, 01 de diciembre de 2010 10:44 a.m.
ra: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
unto: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
inger Hello Eduardo, I've heard/seen the name but I don't know anything
ro/con regarding the ompany or his service. Sorry I can't help on that
ne. Ted -----Original Message-----
om: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of duardo
utierrez Sosa
nt: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:28 AM
: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
bject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
inger Hi Ted: I am interested in ordering a PT6 turbine for my Moose; it's
dness, it's expensive, but it's sweet been able to fly high and a little
ster, plus a lot smoooooooother than with the M14P radial. Would you appen
o know, and this question goes for all who may know (or have heard bout
im) this person and his firm; it would put my mind at ease. Any help t all
ill be welcome. This is he: Vincent Gagnon-Pouliot, President erotek
viation Inc. 07, Suite 110, 6th Avenue uebec Airport, Qc anada 2G 2T4 Best
egards group, thanks much, regards, Eduardo
S.: After the installation I would be interested in selling my radial, now
th 248 hours total time, all its accessories (air start, alternator nstead
f generator, exhaust system with two heating muffs, Performance irflow
njection system instead of its carburetor, automobile plugs and ilicone
igh tension wires, oil system and shutoff valve, oil recovery ystem, and
he list goes on and on), 102" MT three blade propeller and pinner, cowling,
iaphragm style cowl flap as the Sukhois use in the front f the engine to
eep the engine warm.
stallation may take a few months, so this is just for your information for
e time being.
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Ken
[rebel-builders] V-8
Don't take the statement "eliminates all harmonics" to the bank as the
physics do not support the statement. He does have a clutch that
eliminates airframe vibration during startup and shutdown but that means
little. The statement could well be true but Bud hasn't done the testing
to know for sure IMO.
OTOH for the specific case of that V8 and with the same prop with a
demonstrated life in service I would be happy to fly his set up. Likely
safer than what I'm flying but by no means would I consider it risk free
or guaranteed against resonant torsionals or fatigue. My current project
is an attempt to measure some of the numbers that are required for
certifying engine propeller combinations. I rather like the quote "If
you are not scared of torsional resonance - learn more until you are".
The EPI website is a good place to start. Even with 400 hours and
mathematical modeling I do not know with certainty the torsional
resonant frequencies of my soob. Neither does any one else! It is still
an experiment in progress. All I really know is that I don't cruise at a
particularly dangerous rpm. Change the propeller and I don't even know
that anymore.
Ken
Dick Wampach wrote:
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physics do not support the statement. He does have a clutch that
eliminates airframe vibration during startup and shutdown but that means
little. The statement could well be true but Bud hasn't done the testing
to know for sure IMO.
OTOH for the specific case of that V8 and with the same prop with a
demonstrated life in service I would be happy to fly his set up. Likely
safer than what I'm flying but by no means would I consider it risk free
or guaranteed against resonant torsionals or fatigue. My current project
is an attempt to measure some of the numbers that are required for
certifying engine propeller combinations. I rather like the quote "If
you are not scared of torsional resonance - learn more until you are".
The EPI website is a good place to start. Even with 400 hours and
mathematical modeling I do not know with certainty the torsional
resonant frequencies of my soob. Neither does any one else! It is still
an experiment in progress. All I really know is that I don't cruise at a
particularly dangerous rpm. Change the propeller and I don't even know
that anymore.
Ken
Dick Wampach wrote:
Ray Watson
About 3 years ago I saw a beautiful V-8 Chevy set up in a running mock-up
with a constant speed prop. I was drooling over it. It was supposed to fit
in a Murphy Lyc cowl. You might find it helpful to check in with Bud at the
address below. His set up was complete with motor mount ready to bolt on.
Supply your own Prop and Governor, hook it up and run it. The gear box
looks bullet-proof & his design eliminates any harmonics.
Bud Warren; geareddrives@yahoo.com Phyllis Ridings
(phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com)
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
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Brian
[rebel-builders] V-8
Steve Bowley in Phoenix built a V8 Moose 5-6 years ago. It’s apparently very nice. I had an email dialog with him back in September of 2006 and he was very receptive of sharing his experience. You may want to look him up (I have his contact info if you want to email me directly). Of course, Bob P. also was testing the Robinson V8, so I’m sure you can get some info on that as well.
Brian
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of flypegasus628@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: geareddrives@yahoo.com; phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] V-8
Thanks for the feedback Dick. I already have the engine, mount, gearbox and prop assemblies......so it is a matter of finding a cowling set up that will work with my configuration. I will check on the Murphy Lyc. cowling and see if that may work for my application, as well as touch base with Bud.
Thanks much!......Ray.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Wampach <rwampach@att.net>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: Bud Warren <geareddrives@yahoo.com>; Phyllis Ridings <phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 5:30 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] V-8
Ray Watson
About 3 years ago I saw a beautiful V-8 Chevy set up in a running mock-up
ith a constant speed prop. I was drooling over it. It was supposed to fit
n a Murphy Lyc cowl. You might find it helpful to check in with Bud at the
ddress below. His set up was complete with motor mount ready to bolt on.
upply your own Prop and Governor, hook it up and run it. The gear box
ooks bullet-proof & his design eliminates any harmonics.
ud Warren; geareddrives@yahoo.com Phyllis Ridings
phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com)
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
-----Original Message-----
rom: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
duardo Gutierrez Sosa
ent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:04 PM
o: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
ubject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
i Ray: Your address appears (apparently correct by its spelling) in your
essage, although it differs by one word to the one you show below. I used
o contact Mr. Jason Day from Vesta V8 (vestav8.com), but his page does not
ppear as such any longer, Regards, Eduardo
-----Mensaje original-----
e: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] En nombre de
lypegasus628@aol.com Enviado el: miércoles, 01 de diciembre de 2010 01:51
.m.
ara: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
sunto: Re: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
ello Rebel builders. I am new to the group, having recently purchased a
uper Rebel, which has since been completely disassembled and is now headed
n the direction of becoming a Moose. I appreciate being able to monitor
he ongoing conversations that are of interest in a number of areas.
As a part of my Moose conversion, I am looking for a source for a well
esigned fiberglass cowling for the V8 application that I will install in my
ircraft. Would appreciate any direction to good sources and feedback that
ny of you have to offer.
I am not sure if my email address is displayed since I may be being Bcc'd on
ommunications so here is for future communications:
flypeagasus628@aol.com
Thanks.
Ray Watson
-----Original Message-----
rom: Eduardo Gutierrez Sosa <lopeco.eduardo@gmail.com>
o: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
ent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 8:40 am
ubject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
Hi Ted: Thank you anyway; I'll keep waiting for someone else who may give me
re information, best regards, Eduardo -----Mensaje original-----
: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] En nombre de Ted
ltman nviado el: miércoles, 01 de diciembre de 2010 10:44 a.m.
ra: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
unto: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
inger Hello Eduardo, I've heard/seen the name but I don't know anything
ro/con regarding the ompany or his service. Sorry I can't help on that
ne. Ted -----Original Message-----
om: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of duardo
utierrez Sosa
nt: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:28 AM
: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
bject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
inger Hi Ted: I am interested in ordering a PT6 turbine for my Moose; it's
dness, it's expensive, but it's sweet been able to fly high and a little
ster, plus a lot smoooooooother than with the M14P radial. Would you appen
o know, and this question goes for all who may know (or have heard bout
im) this person and his firm; it would put my mind at ease. Any help t all
ill be welcome. This is he: Vincent Gagnon-Pouliot, President erotek
viation Inc. 07, Suite 110, 6th Avenue uebec Airport, Qc anada 2G 2T4 Best
egards group, thanks much, regards, Eduardo
S.: After the installation I would be interested in selling my radial, now
th 248 hours total time, all its accessories (air start, alternator nstead
f generator, exhaust system with two heating muffs, Performance irflow
njection system instead of its carburetor, automobile plugs and ilicone
igh tension wires, oil system and shutoff valve, oil recovery ystem, and
he list goes on and on), 102" MT three blade propeller and pinner, cowling,
iaphragm style cowl flap as the Sukhois use in the front f the engine to
eep the engine warm.
stallation may take a few months, so this is just for your information for
e time being.
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Brian
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: geareddrives@yahoo.com; phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] V-8
Thanks for the feedback Dick. I already have the engine, mount, gearbox and prop assemblies......so it is a matter of finding a cowling set up that will work with my configuration. I will check on the Murphy Lyc. cowling and see if that may work for my application, as well as touch base with Bud.
Thanks much!......Ray.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Wampach <rwampach@att.net>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Cc: Bud Warren <geareddrives@yahoo.com>; Phyllis Ridings <phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 5:30 pm
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] V-8
Ray Watson
About 3 years ago I saw a beautiful V-8 Chevy set up in a running mock-up
ith a constant speed prop. I was drooling over it. It was supposed to fit
n a Murphy Lyc cowl. You might find it helpful to check in with Bud at the
ddress below. His set up was complete with motor mount ready to bolt on.
upply your own Prop and Governor, hook it up and run it. The gear box
ooks bullet-proof & his design eliminates any harmonics.
ud Warren; geareddrives@yahoo.com Phyllis Ridings
phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com)
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
-----Original Message-----
rom: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
duardo Gutierrez Sosa
ent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:04 PM
o: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
ubject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
i Ray: Your address appears (apparently correct by its spelling) in your
essage, although it differs by one word to the one you show below. I used
o contact Mr. Jason Day from Vesta V8 (vestav8.com), but his page does not
ppear as such any longer, Regards, Eduardo
-----Mensaje original-----
e: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] En nombre de
lypegasus628@aol.com Enviado el: miércoles, 01 de diciembre de 2010 01:51
.m.
ara: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
sunto: Re: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
ello Rebel builders. I am new to the group, having recently purchased a
uper Rebel, which has since been completely disassembled and is now headed
n the direction of becoming a Moose. I appreciate being able to monitor
he ongoing conversations that are of interest in a number of areas.
As a part of my Moose conversion, I am looking for a source for a well
esigned fiberglass cowling for the V8 application that I will install in my
ircraft. Would appreciate any direction to good sources and feedback that
ny of you have to offer.
I am not sure if my email address is displayed since I may be being Bcc'd on
ommunications so here is for future communications:
flypeagasus628@aol.com
Thanks.
Ray Watson
-----Original Message-----
rom: Eduardo Gutierrez Sosa <lopeco.eduardo@gmail.com>
o: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
ent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 8:40 am
ubject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
tinger
Hi Ted: Thank you anyway; I'll keep waiting for someone else who may give me
re information, best regards, Eduardo -----Mensaje original-----
: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] En nombre de Ted
ltman nviado el: miércoles, 01 de diciembre de 2010 10:44 a.m.
ra: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
unto: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
inger Hello Eduardo, I've heard/seen the name but I don't know anything
ro/con regarding the ompany or his service. Sorry I can't help on that
ne. Ted -----Original Message-----
om: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of duardo
utierrez Sosa
nt: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:28 AM
: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
bject: RE: [rebel-builders] Hole distance: Super rebel/Moose tailwheel
inger Hi Ted: I am interested in ordering a PT6 turbine for my Moose; it's
dness, it's expensive, but it's sweet been able to fly high and a little
ster, plus a lot smoooooooother than with the M14P radial. Would you appen
o know, and this question goes for all who may know (or have heard bout
im) this person and his firm; it would put my mind at ease. Any help t all
ill be welcome. This is he: Vincent Gagnon-Pouliot, President erotek
viation Inc. 07, Suite 110, 6th Avenue uebec Airport, Qc anada 2G 2T4 Best
egards group, thanks much, regards, Eduardo
S.: After the installation I would be interested in selling my radial, now
th 248 hours total time, all its accessories (air start, alternator nstead
f generator, exhaust system with two heating muffs, Performance irflow
njection system instead of its carburetor, automobile plugs and ilicone
igh tension wires, oil system and shutoff valve, oil recovery ystem, and
he list goes on and on), 102" MT three blade propeller and pinner, cowling,
iaphragm style cowl flap as the Sukhois use in the front f the engine to
eep the engine warm.
stallation may take a few months, so this is just for your information for
e time being.
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Dick Wampach
[rebel-builders] V-8
Thanks Ken,
I did not go into engineering details, My biggest concern when I first saw
his system was to ask him about harmonics, Prop combinations etc, almost to
the point of ruffling his feathers. I did not want to offend him, but he
did assure me......
So with this posting and as all other ideas, opinions, suggestions, leads,
hunches, concepts etc..... Buy, accept, steal, borrow, beg, invent, or
incorporate any of the ideas at your own risk. Always do your research and
feel comfortable with it. You know the old saying BUYER BE WARE!
That said; had I not saved an O-540 and Prop from an engine change on a
Cessna 182RG (my cost $4,000), that I performed way back when, I would have
gladly bought Bud's package. So that is my opinion on his Corvette 350 HP
engine
Enough said on that subject for now. Thanks to all for the many ideas
shared on this site. Thanks to Mike for being the host!
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:35 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] V-8
Don't take the statement "eliminates all harmonics" to the bank as the
physics do not support the statement. He does have a clutch that
eliminates airframe vibration during startup and shutdown but that means
little. The statement could well be true but Bud hasn't done the testing
to know for sure IMO.
OTOH for the specific case of that V8 and with the same prop with a
demonstrated life in service I would be happy to fly his set up. Likely
safer than what I'm flying but by no means would I consider it risk free
or guaranteed against resonant torsionals or fatigue. My current project
is an attempt to measure some of the numbers that are required for
certifying engine propeller combinations. I rather like the quote "If
you are not scared of torsional resonance - learn more until you are".
The EPI website is a good place to start. Even with 400 hours and
mathematical modeling I do not know with certainty the torsional
resonant frequencies of my soob. Neither does any one else! It is still
an experiment in progress. All I really know is that I don't cruise at a
particularly dangerous rpm. Change the propeller and I don't even know
that anymore.
Ken
Dick Wampach wrote:
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I did not go into engineering details, My biggest concern when I first saw
his system was to ask him about harmonics, Prop combinations etc, almost to
the point of ruffling his feathers. I did not want to offend him, but he
did assure me......
So with this posting and as all other ideas, opinions, suggestions, leads,
hunches, concepts etc..... Buy, accept, steal, borrow, beg, invent, or
incorporate any of the ideas at your own risk. Always do your research and
feel comfortable with it. You know the old saying BUYER BE WARE!
That said; had I not saved an O-540 and Prop from an engine change on a
Cessna 182RG (my cost $4,000), that I performed way back when, I would have
gladly bought Bud's package. So that is my opinion on his Corvette 350 HP
engine
Enough said on that subject for now. Thanks to all for the many ideas
shared on this site. Thanks to Mike for being the host!
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:35 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] V-8
Don't take the statement "eliminates all harmonics" to the bank as the
physics do not support the statement. He does have a clutch that
eliminates airframe vibration during startup and shutdown but that means
little. The statement could well be true but Bud hasn't done the testing
to know for sure IMO.
OTOH for the specific case of that V8 and with the same prop with a
demonstrated life in service I would be happy to fly his set up. Likely
safer than what I'm flying but by no means would I consider it risk free
or guaranteed against resonant torsionals or fatigue. My current project
is an attempt to measure some of the numbers that are required for
certifying engine propeller combinations. I rather like the quote "If
you are not scared of torsional resonance - learn more until you are".
The EPI website is a good place to start. Even with 400 hours and
mathematical modeling I do not know with certainty the torsional
resonant frequencies of my soob. Neither does any one else! It is still
an experiment in progress. All I really know is that I don't cruise at a
particularly dangerous rpm. Change the propeller and I don't even know
that anymore.
Ken
Dick Wampach wrote:
Ray Watson
About 3 years ago I saw a beautiful V-8 Chevy set up in a running
mock-up with a constant speed prop. I was drooling over it. It was
supposed to fit in a Murphy Lyc cowl. You might find it helpful to
check in with Bud at the address below. His set up was complete with
motor mount ready to bolt on. Supply your own Prop and Governor, hook
it up and run it. The gear box looks bullet-proof & his design
eliminates any harmonics.
Bud Warren; geareddrives@yahoo.com Phyllis Ridings
(phyllis@phyllis4realestate.com)
Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
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