Great topic for sure....
I purchased kit # 175r that had been in storage for a long time. When I purchased it I bought the upgraded manuals from MAM and got a tour of the factory plus talked to Daryl about my engine choice. He recomended the 3" shortening of the boot cowl which I did as well as the fload stiffeners and motor mount doublers. I was feeling really good now that it was complete....
I check the MAM bulletins regurlarly as well and there has not been any mention of the firewall being aluminum or stainless. It is very frustrating to have all this time putting it together to find out MAM was so cheap to use an aluminum firewall that is a safety hazard.
Can anyone give me a suggestion of what I should do with it at this point? Although it is a setback in the building process, it does need to be addressed.
Thanks for bringing up the question about the firewall material.
Curtis
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 08:53:00 -0800
From: schaumr@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Firewall material for Reb #786 (manufactured 2003-2004)?
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Hi All,
All this talk about firewalls has me wondering.....would a 2003-2004 kit
(#786) have been shipped to the US with a stainless or aluminum firewall? I
bought the kit from another builder so the firewall is already riveted on and I
don't have an official parts list. Is it stated in the manual, by chance? Easy
way to check?
Thanks,
Rob
On 8/1/2010 6:49 AM, kelly@tru-form.ca wrote to rebel-builders:
-> Thanks Dick, excellent point. I have a full bag of ss rivets from MAM and
the moose instructions have no reference to the firewall at all. So I will use
these and look over the regs.
->
-> Thanks
-> Kelly ( Moose )
-> kelly@tru-form.ca
-> Enjoy your day !
->
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: "Dick Wampach" <rwampach@att.net>
-> Sender: <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
-> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 07:03:17
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Firewall rivets
->
-> You fellows in Canada might want to try:
-> Rivets Unlimited (Toronto) Inc (905) 612-9220 2696 Slough Street
-> Mississauga, ON L4T 1G3
->
-> In the USA I got all of my unique hardware (big bolts half sized rivets etc)
-> from:
-> GENUINE A/C Parts, Paso Robles CA, 805-239-3169, 800-247-2738
-> www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com
->
-> I used hard, driven, SS rivets for most of my f/w work.
MS20615-4M4,
-> MS20615-4M5
->
-> The Firewall needs to be able to hold up to 2,000*F for 5 min per the regs.
-> Not a place for short cuts!
->
-> Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
->
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Kelly
-> M. Ewing
-> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:28 AM
-> To: MAM email list
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Firewall rivets
->
->
-> Thanks Ken, I think your right on the fire melting the aluminum ect. I'm
-> just not sure about the reaction of aluminum, stainless and galvanized.
->
-> Thanks
-> Kelly ( Moose )
-> kelly@tru-form.ca
-> Enjoy your day !
->
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
-> Sender: <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
-> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:54:29
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Firewall rivets
->
-> I'd vote for stainless. A fire barrier is only as strong as the weakest link
-> and aluminum will melt in seconds in a fuel fed fire. Some guys have said
-> the stainless pop rivets don't always retain the mandrel which could leave
-> them hollow but mine were OK. That said I did use some avex in non critical
-> places although perhaps should not have. But the entire firewall is fastened
-> to aluminum so there are limits to the advantages of a stainless rivet. BE61
-> stainless structural rivets could be used if someone is really picky. Ken
->
-> Kelly M. Ewing wrote:
-> > Looking to find out if the firewall rivets should be stainless or
-> > aluminum rivets
-> >
-> > Thanks
-> > Kelly ( Moose )
-> > kelly@tru-form.ca
-> > Enjoy your day !
-> >
->
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