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Bill Maxwell

[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Bill Maxwell » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Tremendous news Ron and very, very many congratulations!

My thanks too for demonstrating that the 3300 Jab is a viable candidate
for the Rebel. You have added one further real option to my list for 735R.

Bill

Ron Shannon wrote:
[Ed.: This is long, so get something cold and some popcorn. And it's all
true -- especially the ecstasy.]


254R made her maiden flight(s) today, and performed extremely well, better
than the pilot, though he is now basking in the glow of it all, including
the last heavy slip landing on our 24 X 1600 paved strip at Rake's Glen
(WA59). My wife Miggles, daughter Erica, good friends Lynn and Greg, with
ex-UA Captain, CFI, builder & ace pilot neighbor John handling ground COM.
We had to wait until 1130 for low fog to burn off, then it was time to go.

I was loaded with 9 gal. left tank, 13 gal. right, and perhaps 10 lb. right
seat, yielding a rather forward 12.8 CG (more on that later) and pretty
light. With 10 deg. flaps, liftoff was at about 600 ft., though I was
probably holding it on a bit too much. Takeoff thrust was more than
adequately awesome. Maybe not *quite* like John's IO-540 powered Harmon
Rocket, but you wouldn't know it by me! <g>

EGT's at initial full throttle were briefly high enough to set the EFIS
squawking at me (probably a normal phenomenon, and I had the alarm set too
low, intentionally, but needlessly) but at 500 ft. I lowered the climb angle
(still over 600 FPM) and throttled back a little, and the EGT's went right
down in 5-10 seconds. (In fact, the only time *any* temps were ever out of
the green throughout all the flights and maneuvers reported here was during
the first 15-20 seconds of each takeoff, and then only the EGT's -- around
1400 F indicated, which is about redline for the Jabiru. I turned left for
Sequim Valley Airport (W28), 2M SW, as planned because it has a 46 ft. wide
strip -- where I would do the first landings before returning to our skinny
one. At the initial climb angle, some light right rudder was required, but
hardly any was needed after lowering the deck and throttling back 150 RPM
(+/-) to 600 FPM climb.

Not being very familiar with the attitude visuals, I was surprised to
realize that, in what seemed like no time, I was well over 1500 ft. and
still climbing steadily at 400+ FPM, 80 MPH or so. Oh, oh, past time to pull
the flaps up -- resulting in a good surge forward. It was a glorious clear
day, I could already see W28 ahead, so as planned I just kept climbing at
about 400 FPM through 3000, on up to 5300 -- I wanted at least a mile, after
all. :) By that time I had already tried some rudder wags, which showed
the plane to be dynamically stable in yaw after 2-3 oscillations. At the
3000 level, circling wide over the airport, I got a little more adventurous
with roll exercises. In turns, say left -- the ball goes a little right --
and it took me a little while to realize I would have to unlearn my muscle
memory which always adds a little rudder into the turn. Bottom line is this
plane doesn't need rudder in turns! By the time I got to 5000, I was doing
45 deg. banks. When the plane rolls, I have pull the stick back to center a
bit to stop the roll... nothing unusual there.

At 5000 ft., I tried an approach to power off stall, no flaps, which began
to get squirrelly at 50 MPH indicated -- didn't get to a buffet or break --
so I pushed over and carried on. (I just wanted to confirm a reasonable
approach speed.) Surprisingly, the AOA, which hasn't even been calibrated
yet, started squawking on cue ("Angle, angle, push, angle, angle, push) at
about 54 MPH. Fine! :) Awhile later, I tried the same maneuver with 10
deg. flaps, and handling got a little loosey (rudder steering in play) at
about 45 MPH. No surprises in any of that. With flaps, slow flight at 50 MPH
would be easy. The plane flies "heavier" and with less responsive controls
than the light planes I fly most often, but it wasn't hard to get used to...
by the third landing, when I got around to some more active dancing on the
pedals. All that means is the plane is just wonderfully stable. My panic
about control friction two months ago was easily forgotten. Not a problem at
all.

I then set up for cruise and I have to say, as Buddha is my witness, this
plane flies SUPER! Easily trimmed without much input, it flew hands off for
at least 30 seconds, and would have probably done longer except that was
about the time I decided it was good enough <g> and wanted to do something
else. Straight and level at ~2800 RPM -- Jabiru cruise setting -- I was
getting 108-110 MPH indicated (!) -- and am happy as a clam with that! Fact
is, I completely forgot to try reflex the whole first flight -- more on that
later. Truth is, I was having so much fun, I didn't want to come down.
Really, really didn't want to come down.

But first landings must be made, so down I came. The first landing was high
(and my story is that was on purpose, and I'm stickin' to it) and I touched
down about half way down the 3500 ft. runway. The video, which will be
posted anon, shows a pretty small bounce, a lot less bounce than it felt
like! Ha. I did notice a distinct lack of elevator authority deep in the
flare -- in every landing. I taxiid off and shut down, beamed and screamed,
and managed to keep back the misty eyes of joyful relief for a whole 2-3
minutes. Don't know how. Deep hugs. I have an awesome mate and daughter...
they've put up with a lot, as you all know from your own lives. What a
fantastic moment -- to be able to fly the airplane you've slaved over for
years, to land it, on a gorgeous day, with those closest to you clapping and
beaming almost as much as I was... it doesn't get any better. Total time
first flight = 0.9 hr.

We found a little oil at the rear cowl outlet... which was rather quickly
traced to a too loose spin-on oil filter, which was left from an early oil
change at 1.7 TTE. I had test run it with no leaks, but not with significant
pressure. All the hoses, etc., were fine. Found a strap wrench and tightened
it down, no further problems. Had lunch under the wing. Wow. Took off for
three (or was it four?) more circuits. The plane climbs (lightly loaded, 144
ft. field elev., of course) over 1200 FPM without even trying! Who knows
what it will do when I try for V(x), or learn how to fly it, eh? As Eric
says, the wings are filled with helium.

Landings were, uh, a little variable. The second one was worst. I got on the
brakes too early and too hard and went swinging, but got it under control.
The next couple of landings (all at ~15 deg. flap) were pretty good,
although I did not have enough elevator authority late in the flare. That
was partly from the forward CG, no doubt, but I will have to look at my
deflection (currently ~22 deg. up) again. The other landings were pretty
good. In short, the plane landed as well as I could fly it. Now for some not
so good, and then some awesomely good stuff.

On the down side, the right window popped open on two takeoffs at W28. When
the window falls, the plane yaws to the right (can I get some beginning
multi-engine time credit here?) and the fuse starts oil-canning, making
quite a racket. The first time I landed, went to the ramp, shutdown, and
closed it. Not good enough. The second time, I shut down, and tightened the
pivot bolt of my turning-lever-style window latch, which had just been too
loose. No further problem. After the last flight, I found I'd developed a
small fuel leak at some fitting inside the left root fairing and will have
to track that down. The engine puts a lot of suction on the AeroCarb
throttle body carb, and if you let go of the friction throttle control
before locking it up, the engine falls to idle rather abruptly, which can be
unnerving the first couple of times, even when you know what's happening.
Gotta be very careful of that. I should, and will, have a vernier rather
than friction control soon. Other than those items and the elevator
authority issue, all of which will probably be rather easily solved, the
plane, engine & prop behaved flawlessly. How good?

OK, what you've all been waiting for, I'm told. (Wake up Garry.) On the
final flight, back to the tiny home strip, I climbed to 2000 and decided it
was time to finally stretch the Jabiru out, finally using some ~ 5 deg.
reflex flap (lunges forward with that) and find out how the 68x38 prop
spinning so smoothly on the Jabiru would really perform. Straight and level,
118-119 MPH indicated @ 3120 RPM !!! I am not lying. If I'd held it longer,
trimmed a bit more, etc., I would have undoubtedly gotten over 120. Wow, and
I don't even know how to fly the thing yet, or exactly what reflex I'm
getting, or what's best for this plane, or... Not to mention that there are
no strut fairings, no push-pull fairings, no gap seal between the flaperon
halves yet! With those things in place, and the prop not close to the 3300
RPM redline yet, I should easily see 125 MPH when it's cleaned up. When the
static RPM test gave a perfect 2820 RPM, I knew the climb would be fine, but
didn't know if I would suffer in cruise. Fortunately, it's definitely not
over-revving, and won't. No I haven't calibrated the ASI (but it should be
pretty close), yes it was light, relatively low altitude, starting at sea
level -- and I forgot to even look at ground speed (*ever, in all the day's
flights -- what's with that?*) -- but I must say I am totally stoked with
those numbers! With super climb, and those speed numbers, I wouldn't change
the prop -- or the engine -- a bit.

I think I can also, already, definitively claim that all the debate, all the
nay-saying about the high-revving Jabiru engine being inappropriate for a
small bush plane -- at least this one, on wheels -- is hogwash.

I still had to land on our little strip, where I've come in sitting right
seat with the neighbors many times, but have never landed anything here
before. (Renters are prohibited from landing such small strips.) Wind was
excellent (say hallelujah!), about 5-6 KTS, only about 10 deg. off RWY 25.
Approaching from the east, one has to skim over some 80+ ft. trees along the
river, with sink before them and lift after -- even in 4-5 KTS -- and then
get down very quickly to the numbers -- while initially still in the lift
effect of rising wind over the trees, etc.) So I did the first, routine
required (local procedure) fly over at 500 to feel for the trees. I did a
second pass, reaching down to about 100 ft. over the trees, and then down to
about 150 ft., intending all along to go around, and did. The third time I
came about 50 ft. over the trees, then threw it into a pretty heavy slip
(yet another first in plane and location) and landed uneventfully about 1/3
down the runway. Total flight time for the day = 2.2 hrs.

There are so many to thank. Five years ago I joined this list. About 8 mos.
later, my decision to get a Rebel kit was at least 1/3 based on the
wonderful support, and friendships, that were, and still are apparent on
this list. Everything that's happened here since has more than validated
that reasoning, and I am extremely grateful to *all* of you for your help,
your encouragement, and your patience with my "Duh" queries and long winded
jabbering. Many other airplane lists have too many people, with no small
amount of bad advice, and some lists are too small to get any advice, much
less good advice, when you need it at all. This group is a good size, the
help comes fast and the advice is great. It's very special.

There are so many to thank, including dozens on this list. I'm reluctant to
single out people, for fear of leaving out so many others, but I have to
mention two. First, Garry Wright, who took me along in C-FOKM's right seat
for the '07 Ramble. I already had the kit but no Rebel time, and that
experience, both with the plane and with Garry, provided priceless learning
and motivation, and Garry has become a great and lasting friend. Who could
be so lucky again?

Second, but not second place, thanks to Jim LePard, who started building
254R 14 years ago, and has been more help than anyone since I began to
continue the work on "our" airplane 4-1/2 years ago. Jim did excellent work
on this plane when he had it, and I couldn't have asked for better
workmanship from a first builder. Much more importantly, Jim (A&P/IA) has
remained very interested in the project and provided me tons of advice,
mentoring and support, whenever I asked for it (way too often) without fail,
and with endless patience. (We have shared well over 1K emails in the last
4.5 years... really.) He's taught me 2/3 or more of what I've learned about
building airplanes, and more, and has become a wonderful friend. I could not
have done this without his generous help. No one could wish for a better
seller-buyer relationship. Thanks, Jim, for what you've given me, and for
who you are.

So here are the numbers in one place:

Flight test GW = ~1252 lbs.
CG = 12.8
Takeoff climb = 2900 RPM, at least 1200 FPM (nothing definitive there --
testing for V(x) etc. to come)
Easy cruise = 108-110 MPH @ 2800 RPM (+/-)
Flat out, 5 deg. reflex = 119 MPH @ 3120 RPM, no fairings, no tune, sloppy
trim, rookie pilot
Highest oil temp = ~170 F
CHT's never even in yellow
Fuel flow = ~ 5 GPH, as expected.

Photos and videos (including live A/V from the cockpit) will be up on
http://n254mr.com, but probably not until tomorrow. Well no, I won't be able
to sleep tonight so... before dawn. :-) BTW, one video shows the plane
taxiing out of the driveway, from a camera about 30 ft. away. The engine is
so quiet, you can easily hear an excited little dog barking about 350 ft.
away from the camera -- *beyond the airplane on the other side of the
runway!*

Folks, this is an awesome airplane, and the Jabiru 3300 with 68x38 Sensenich
is great! This pilot has a lot to learn, but couldn't be happier with the
plane or its performance. Keep building guys. All that delayed
gratification? It will not be lost. It's ecstasy in the bank. It will all
come back and more... in a flood when you get to fly your dream. At least,
that's what happened to me today.

Ron
254R

PS - When replying to this, as I know many will do, please give others a
break, and delete my long story from underneath your reply, so people won't
have to scroll all the way through it over and over. Thanks.




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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Congratulations Ron !!

Sounds like you have a lot of fun flying ahead !!
The performance sounds great !

FWIW - I won't fly a Rebel with less than 27 degrees of UP
elevator .... and always take off & land with full (3notches)
flapperon - ease up to 2 notches for climb above 200 ft...
That should help your landings - not that they worked out
badly !

To the others - "Keep rivetting - it IS worth it !!"

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On July 18, 2010 01:43:06 am Ron Shannon wrote:
[Ed.: This is long, so get something cold and some popcorn. And it's all
true -- especially the ecstasy.]


Folks, this is an awesome airplane, and the Jabiru 3300 with 68x38
Sensenich is great! This pilot has a lot to learn, but couldn't be happier
with the plane or its performance. Keep building guys. All that delayed
gratification? It will not be lost. It's ecstasy in the bank. It will all
come back and more... in a flood when you get to fly your dream. At least,
that's what happened to me today.

Ron
254R

PS - When replying to this, as I know many will do, please give others a
break, and delete my long story from underneath your reply, so people won't
have to scroll all the way through it over and over. Thanks.

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Bill Maxwell

[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Bill Maxwell » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Do you have a similar routine for the flapped version, Bob?

Bill

Bob Patterson wrote:
Congratulations Ron !!

Sounds like you have a lot of fun flying ahead !!
The performance sounds great !

FWIW - I won't fly a Rebel with less than 27 degrees of UP
elevator .... and always take off & land with full (3notches)
flapperon - ease up to 2 notches for climb above 200 ft...
That should help your landings - not that they worked out
badly !

To the others - "Keep rivetting - it IS worth it !!"


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Ron Shannon

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Post by Ron Shannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Thanks, Bob. I think I set the elevator stop a little tight to make sure
there would be no question about the fuse hole clearance during the
inspection, and forgot to reset it. :) There's at least a little room to set
the elevator stop wider even in the existing hole, though I may enlarge the
rear of the hole too, and/or play with washers on the rod ends some more,
etc. It's a lesson learned, not difficult to fix.

Also, flight test GW was a typo -- should have been 1212 lbs. instead of
1252.

Ron



On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca> wrote:
Congratulations Ron !!

Sounds like you have a lot of fun flying ahead !!
The performance sounds great !

FWIW - I won't fly a Rebel with less than 27 degrees of UP
elevator .... and always take off & land with full (3notches)
flapperon - ease up to 2 notches for climb above 200 ft...
That should help your landings - not that they worked out
badly !

To the others - "Keep rivetting - it IS worth it !!"

--
......bobp



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Post by Keith Leitch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Congratulations Ron!!! Great to hear that the Jabiru is performing well. I had also read that the Jabiru (supposedly) was not a good choice for the Rebel being used as a "bush plane". Happy to hear that may not be the case.
Keith






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Garry Wright

[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Garry Wright » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Ron,

Gleeful congratulations on your first flight. I'm really glad it worked
out so well. It didn't take long to get your window of opportunity from
when you got authorization to fly it. Good logical sequence coming out
of Rake's Glen and eventually coming back in. I sort of had it in mind
you might do the whole thing at Sequim - ie take the wings off and
trailer it over there but didn't really know.

Looking forward to the instrument verification tests on ground speed and
such. Should be quite interesting to validate your ASI readings. I don't
remember where you put your static port which will have some bearing on
this whole branch.

I still don't have FOKM's floats wet this summer yet. Getting close -
maybe today. Looking forward to more missives from Sequim.

Garry





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Post by Jesse Jenks » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

That's really great Ron! Congratulations.

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[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Terry Dazey » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Hello Ron:

Congrads on the first flight! Yey! Job well done with very nice workmanship I must say. She's a beaut! Now on to the fun stuff. Please keep us posted on further flights.

Over-and-out . . .

Your Pilot Pal,
Terry Dazey
R662
Lake Tapps, WA
254R made her maiden flight(s) today, and performed extremely well, better
than the pilot, though he is now basking in the glow of it all, including
the last heavy slip landing on our 24 X 1600 paved strip at Rake's Glen
(WA59).


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[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Jim Parr » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Congrats Ron! I am jealous. Must rivet faster now!!
:-)
Jim
705R




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Post by snowyrvr@mtaonline.net » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Regarding the qualifications for a "bush" engine, performance is only part
of the picture. Parts availability and knowledgeable mechanics are a must
have for the inevitable breakdown or other snafu that arises. I think
that's a big reason why the alt engines have yet to really come of age here
in Alaska. Other engines that incorporate redrive units are especially
vulnerable when flying out away from civilization anywhere. Many top notch
mechanics up here could probably rebuild a dinosaur Lyc blindfolded but can
you imagine what they'd do with a Ross redrive unit that went bad?

Original Message:
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 05:52:23 -0700 (PDT)
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 254R first flights



Congratulations Ron!!! Great to hear that the Jabiru is performing well. I
had also read that the Jabiru (supposedly) was not a good choice for the
Rebel being used as a "bush plane". Happy to hear that may not be the case.
Keith






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Post by Ron Shannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

An undeniably good point, Craig. That said, wide availability of support
will always lag use and acceptance. Acceptance in the broader market starts
with performance, with proof of reliability following closely behind. Given
the economics, wide parts and service availability for alternative engines
always lags those, I think.

With tens of thousands (I would guess) of Rotax's in the field now, and
undeniable evidence of its reliability, service is much more widely
available than it was even five years ago. It's a fine engine. The Jabiru,
with thousands now in the field, even just in the US, is doing better and
better in the market too. Even in the US, wide availability of Jabiru
service and support is also, relatively, much better than it used to be, as
is the engine itself. (I have dedicated Jabiru service even here Washington
state, to say nothing of many other knowledgeable mechanics.) But that
doesn't happen for any engine until performance is proven, and negative
myths about performance are dispelled first.

I know flying the Jabiru into the back country of say, even Idaho, still
presents the possibility of greater hassles should significant service be
required in the boonies. It may take an extra day or two, and perhaps more
money to make it happen. No question. But I don't think I'll be any more
worried about its ability to perform very well, nor about its overall
reliability, when properly maintained, than I would be with any other proven
engine that's also properly maintained. Flight schools in Australia are
running these things well past the 2K TBO, and it gets hot down there, or so
I've heard.

I can't argue with anyone who chooses to put Lycoming-grade parts and
service availability at the top of their own priorities, but neither should
they argue too strenuously that the Jabiru 3300 can't climb and cruise a
Rebel as well, or better than the best in its horsepower class, because
there's more and more evidence -- on the Rebel and similar airframes -- that
it certainly can.

Many thanks to all who have responded so kindly to news of 254R's first
flights.* It's not about me, or the Jabiru*. It's about confirming to all
the people who still see just a black tunnel ahead that they will get to the
end, they're going to have a great, and very special airplane, and it's
going to feel really, really good. (That even begins quite awhile before
first flight.) I hope the story helps inspire others and keep them going.
Having a chance to play that role for others (I hope) is also a thrill for
me... not that far below flying. It takes a village, and we've sure got one
right here The village is powered by questions -- more than answers -- and
regular stories like 254R's. (These stories do appear with surprising
regularity.)

Deburring a few more holes, pulling a few more rivets, figuring out how
_you_ are going to solve one more puzzle your own way... every step puts you
closer to the really fun part than you've ever been before. That includes
the screw ups and backtracks. You're still closer, because it isn't a
straight line. I recommend making a simple spreadsheet of tasks as I have.
(See the project docs section at http://n254mr.com/node/199) You'll keep
adding stuff to it for quite awhile -- just throw everything in there. It's
really useful for sorting tasks to later put things in order -- as the
manual often doesn't. Then you can look back at what's been completed and be
able to see the forest for the trees, and of course, you won't forget the
small stuff that way, and stuff you get from this list. Works for me.

I've only ever flown about a dozen types, but even I can tell: *this is one
heck of an airplane!*

Ron



On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:43 AM, snowyrvr@mtaonline.net <
snowyrvr@mtaonline.net> wrote:
Regarding the qualifications for a "bush" engine, performance is only part
of the picture. Parts availability and knowledgeable mechanics are a must
have for the inevitable breakdown or other snafu that arises. I think
that's a big reason why the alt engines have yet to really come of age here
in Alaska. Other engines that incorporate redrive units are especially
vulnerable when flying out away from civilization anywhere. Many top notch
mechanics up here could probably rebuild a dinosaur Lyc blindfolded but can
you imagine what they'd do with a Ross redrive unit that went bad?


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Tim Hickey

[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Tim Hickey » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Way to go, Ron.

Now you can add "Test Pilot" to your resume.


Like many have said, "To know the thing, you have to do it".

You have done it well






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Walter Klatt

[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Walter Klatt » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Hey, Ron, congrats again. Sounds like that little bush/show plane is beating
all expectations. Have to admit, that I, too, first had some doubts about
the Jab, but you certainly cleared all that up with your test flight. Those
are good numbers indeed.

Yeah, I would say that you could use some more up elevator. VGs on the
underside of the hor stab might help as well. And you could try put some
weight in the back for some of your initial flights. But sounds like you
have it all under control.

Good luck as you keep testing it and work out the bugs. As you say, it will
only get better.

Just got back from Nimpo. Great weather and got into some more interesting
lakes up there. We had 4 Murphy amphibs there, 2 Rebels, 1 Elite, and a
Moose. There were more wheeled planes on the dirt strip there this year too,
including several nose gear Cessnas and others. So the Rebel would be quite
at home there on wheels, too.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Shannon
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:43 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R first flights

[Ed.: This is long, so get something cold and some popcorn. And it's all
true -- especially the ecstasy.]


254R made her maiden flight(s) today, and performed extremely well, better
than the pilot, though he is now basking in the glow of it all, including
the last heavy slip landing on our 24 X 1600 paved strip at Rake's Glen
(WA59). My wife Miggles, daughter Erica, good friends Lynn and Greg, with
ex-UA Captain, CFI, builder & ace pilot neighbor John handling ground COM.
We had to wait until 1130 for low fog to burn off, then it was time to go.

I was loaded with 9 gal. left tank, 13 gal. right, and perhaps 10 lb. right
seat, yielding a rather forward 12.8 CG (more on that later) and pretty
light. With 10 deg. flaps, liftoff was at about 600 ft., though I was
probably holding it on a bit too much. Takeoff thrust was more than
adequately awesome. Maybe not *quite* like John's IO-540 powered Harmon
Rocket, but you wouldn't know it by me! <g>

EGT's at initial full throttle were briefly high enough to set the EFIS
squawking at me (probably a normal phenomenon, and I had the alarm set too
low, intentionally, but needlessly) but at 500 ft. I lowered the climb angle
(still over 600 FPM) and throttled back a little, and the EGT's went right
down in 5-10 seconds. (In fact, the only time *any* temps were ever out of
the green throughout all the flights and maneuvers reported here was during
the first 15-20 seconds of each takeoff, and then only the EGT's -- around
1400 F indicated, which is about redline for the Jabiru. I turned left for
Sequim Valley Airport (W28), 2M SW, as planned because it has a 46 ft. wide
strip -- where I would do the first landings before returning to our skinny
one. At the initial climb angle, some light right rudder was required, but
hardly any was needed after lowering the deck and throttling back 150 RPM
(+/-) to 600 FPM climb.

Not being very familiar with the attitude visuals, I was surprised to
realize that, in what seemed like no time, I was well over 1500 ft. and
still climbing steadily at 400+ FPM, 80 MPH or so. Oh, oh, past time to pull
the flaps up -- resulting in a good surge forward. It was a glorious clear
day, I could already see W28 ahead, so as planned I just kept climbing at
about 400 FPM through 3000, on up to 5300 -- I wanted at least a mile, after
all. :) By that time I had already tried some rudder wags, which showed
the plane to be dynamically stable in yaw after 2-3 oscillations. At the
3000 level, circling wide over the airport, I got a little more adventurous
with roll exercises. In turns, say left -- the ball goes a little right --
and it took me a little while to realize I would have to unlearn my muscle
memory which always adds a little rudder into the turn. Bottom line is this
plane doesn't need rudder in turns! By the time I got to 5000, I was doing
45 deg. banks. When the plane rolls, I have pull the stick back to center a
bit to stop the roll... nothing unusual there.

At 5000 ft., I tried an approach to power off stall, no flaps, which began
to get squirrelly at 50 MPH indicated -- didn't get to a buffet or break --
so I pushed over and carried on. (I just wanted to confirm a reasonable
approach speed.) Surprisingly, the AOA, which hasn't even been calibrated
yet, started squawking on cue ("Angle, angle, push, angle, angle, push) at
about 54 MPH. Fine! :) Awhile later, I tried the same maneuver with 10
deg. flaps, and handling got a little loosey (rudder steering in play) at
about 45 MPH. No surprises in any of that. With flaps, slow flight at 50 MPH
would be easy. The plane flies "heavier" and with less responsive controls
than the light planes I fly most often, but it wasn't hard to get used to...
by the third landing, when I got around to some more active dancing on the
pedals. All that means is the plane is just wonderfully stable. My panic
about control friction two months ago was easily forgotten. Not a problem at
all.

I then set up for cruise and I have to say, as Buddha is my witness, this
plane flies SUPER! Easily trimmed without much input, it flew hands off for
at least 30 seconds, and would have probably done longer except that was
about the time I decided it was good enough <g> and wanted to do something
else. Straight and level at ~2800 RPM -- Jabiru cruise setting -- I was
getting 108-110 MPH indicated (!) -- and am happy as a clam with that! Fact
is, I completely forgot to try reflex the whole first flight -- more on that
later. Truth is, I was having so much fun, I didn't want to come down.
Really, really didn't want to come down.

But first landings must be made, so down I came. The first landing was high
(and my story is that was on purpose, and I'm stickin' to it) and I touched
down about half way down the 3500 ft. runway. The video, which will be
posted anon, shows a pretty small bounce, a lot less bounce than it felt
like! Ha. I did notice a distinct lack of elevator authority deep in the
flare -- in every landing. I taxiid off and shut down, beamed and screamed,
and managed to keep back the misty eyes of joyful relief for a whole 2-3
minutes. Don't know how. Deep hugs. I have an awesome mate and daughter...
they've put up with a lot, as you all know from your own lives. What a
fantastic moment -- to be able to fly the airplane you've slaved over for
years, to land it, on a gorgeous day, with those closest to you clapping and
beaming almost as much as I was... it doesn't get any better. Total time
first flight = 0.9 hr.

We found a little oil at the rear cowl outlet... which was rather quickly
traced to a too loose spin-on oil filter, which was left from an early oil
change at 1.7 TTE. I had test run it with no leaks, but not with significant
pressure. All the hoses, etc., were fine. Found a strap wrench and tightened
it down, no further problems. Had lunch under the wing. Wow. Took off for
three (or was it four?) more circuits. The plane climbs (lightly loaded, 144
ft. field elev., of course) over 1200 FPM without even trying! Who knows
what it will do when I try for V(x), or learn how to fly it, eh? As Eric
says, the wings are filled with helium.

Landings were, uh, a little variable. The second one was worst. I got on the
brakes too early and too hard and went swinging, but got it under control.
The next couple of landings (all at ~15 deg. flap) were pretty good,
although I did not have enough elevator authority late in the flare. That
was partly from the forward CG, no doubt, but I will have to look at my
deflection (currently ~22 deg. up) again. The other landings were pretty
good. In short, the plane landed as well as I could fly it. Now for some not
so good, and then some awesomely good stuff.

On the down side, the right window popped open on two takeoffs at W28. When
the window falls, the plane yaws to the right (can I get some beginning
multi-engine time credit here?) and the fuse starts oil-canning, making
quite a racket. The first time I landed, went to the ramp, shutdown, and
closed it. Not good enough. The second time, I shut down, and tightened the
pivot bolt of my turning-lever-style window latch, which had just been too
loose. No further problem. After the last flight, I found I'd developed a
small fuel leak at some fitting inside the left root fairing and will have
to track that down. The engine puts a lot of suction on the AeroCarb
throttle body carb, and if you let go of the friction throttle control
before locking it up, the engine falls to idle rather abruptly, which can be
unnerving the first couple of times, even when you know what's happening.
Gotta be very careful of that. I should, and will, have a vernier rather
than friction control soon. Other than those items and the elevator
authority issue, all of which will probably be rather easily solved, the
plane, engine & prop behaved flawlessly. How good?

OK, what you've all been waiting for, I'm told. (Wake up Garry.) On the
final flight, back to the tiny home strip, I climbed to 2000 and decided it
was time to finally stretch the Jabiru out, finally using some ~ 5 deg.
reflex flap (lunges forward with that) and find out how the 68x38 prop
spinning so smoothly on the Jabiru would really perform. Straight and level,
118-119 MPH indicated @ 3120 RPM !!! I am not lying. If I'd held it longer,
trimmed a bit more, etc., I would have undoubtedly gotten over 120. Wow, and
I don't even know how to fly the thing yet, or exactly what reflex I'm
getting, or what's best for this plane, or... Not to mention that there are
no strut fairings, no push-pull fairings, no gap seal between the flaperon
halves yet! With those things in place, and the prop not close to the 3300
RPM redline yet, I should easily see 125 MPH when it's cleaned up. When the
static RPM test gave a perfect 2820 RPM, I knew the climb would be fine, but
didn't know if I would suffer in cruise. Fortunately, it's definitely not
over-revving, and won't. No I haven't calibrated the ASI (but it should be
pretty close), yes it was light, relatively low altitude, starting at sea
level -- and I forgot to even look at ground speed (*ever, in all the day's
flights -- what's with that?*) -- but I must say I am totally stoked with
those numbers! With super climb, and those speed numbers, I wouldn't change
the prop -- or the engine -- a bit.

I think I can also, already, definitively claim that all the debate, all the
nay-saying about the high-revving Jabiru engine being inappropriate for a
small bush plane -- at least this one, on wheels -- is hogwash.

I still had to land on our little strip, where I've come in sitting right
seat with the neighbors many times, but have never landed anything here
before. (Renters are prohibited from landing such small strips.) Wind was
excellent (say hallelujah!), about 5-6 KTS, only about 10 deg. off RWY 25.
Approaching from the east, one has to skim over some 80+ ft. trees along the
river, with sink before them and lift after -- even in 4-5 KTS -- and then
get down very quickly to the numbers -- while initially still in the lift
effect of rising wind over the trees, etc.) So I did the first, routine
required (local procedure) fly over at 500 to feel for the trees. I did a
second pass, reaching down to about 100 ft. over the trees, and then down to
about 150 ft., intending all along to go around, and did. The third time I
came about 50 ft. over the trees, then threw it into a pretty heavy slip
(yet another first in plane and location) and landed uneventfully about 1/3
down the runway. Total flight time for the day = 2.2 hrs.

There are so many to thank. Five years ago I joined this list. About 8 mos.
later, my decision to get a Rebel kit was at least 1/3 based on the
wonderful support, and friendships, that were, and still are apparent on
this list. Everything that's happened here since has more than validated
that reasoning, and I am extremely grateful to *all* of you for your help,
your encouragement, and your patience with my "Duh" queries and long winded
jabbering. Many other airplane lists have too many people, with no small
amount of bad advice, and some lists are too small to get any advice, much
less good advice, when you need it at all. This group is a good size, the
help comes fast and the advice is great. It's very special.

There are so many to thank, including dozens on this list. I'm reluctant to
single out people, for fear of leaving out so many others, but I have to
mention two. First, Garry Wright, who took me along in C-FOKM's right seat
for the '07 Ramble. I already had the kit but no Rebel time, and that
experience, both with the plane and with Garry, provided priceless learning
and motivation, and Garry has become a great and lasting friend. Who could
be so lucky again?

Second, but not second place, thanks to Jim LePard, who started building
254R 14 years ago, and has been more help than anyone since I began to
continue the work on "our" airplane 4-1/2 years ago. Jim did excellent work
on this plane when he had it, and I couldn't have asked for better
workmanship from a first builder. Much more importantly, Jim (A&P/IA) has
remained very interested in the project and provided me tons of advice,
mentoring and support, whenever I asked for it (way too often) without fail,
and with endless patience. (We have shared well over 1K emails in the last
4.5 years... really.) He's taught me 2/3 or more of what I've learned about
building airplanes, and more, and has become a wonderful friend. I could not
have done this without his generous help. No one could wish for a better
seller-buyer relationship. Thanks, Jim, for what you've given me, and for
who you are.

So here are the numbers in one place:

Flight test GW = ~1252 lbs.
CG = 12.8
Takeoff climb = 2900 RPM, at least 1200 FPM (nothing definitive there --
testing for V(x) etc. to come)
Easy cruise = 108-110 MPH @ 2800 RPM (+/-)
Flat out, 5 deg. reflex = 119 MPH @ 3120 RPM, no fairings, no tune, sloppy
trim, rookie pilot
Highest oil temp = ~170 F
CHT's never even in yellow
Fuel flow = ~ 5 GPH, as expected.

Photos and videos (including live A/V from the cockpit) will be up on
http://n254mr.com, but probably not until tomorrow. Well no, I won't be able
to sleep tonight so... before dawn. :-) BTW, one video shows the plane
taxiing out of the driveway, from a camera about 30 ft. away. The engine is
so quiet, you can easily hear an excited little dog barking about 350 ft.
away from the camera -- *beyond the airplane on the other side of the
runway!*

Folks, this is an awesome airplane, and the Jabiru 3300 with 68x38 Sensenich
is great! This pilot has a lot to learn, but couldn't be happier with the
plane or its performance. Keep building guys. All that delayed
gratification? It will not be lost. It's ecstasy in the bank. It will all
come back and more... in a flood when you get to fly your dream. At least,
that's what happened to me today.

Ron
254R

PS - When replying to this, as I know many will do, please give others a
break, and delete my long story from underneath your reply, so people won't
have to scroll all the way through it over and over. Thanks.




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Garry Wright

[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by Garry Wright » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Bugger - and I had to miss it.

G

Walter Klatt wrote:
Hey, Ron, congrats again. Sounds like that little bush/show plane is beating
all expectations. Have to admit, that I, too, first had some doubts about
the Jab, but you certainly cleared all that up with your test flight. Those
are good numbers indeed.

Yeah, I would say that you could use some more up elevator. VGs on the
underside of the hor stab might help as well. And you could try put some
weight in the back for some of your initial flights. But sounds like you
have it all under control.

Good luck as you keep testing it and work out the bugs. As you say, it will
only get better.

Just got back from Nimpo. Great weather and got into some more interesting
lakes up there. We had 4 Murphy amphibs there, 2 Rebels, 1 Elite, and a
Moose. There were more wheeled planes on the dirt strip there this year too,
including several nose gear Cessnas and others. So the Rebel would be quite
at home there on wheels, too.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Shannon
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:43 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R first flights

[Ed.: This is long, so get something cold and some popcorn. And it's all
true -- especially the ecstasy.]


254R made her maiden flight(s) today, and performed extremely well, better
than the pilot, though he is now basking in the glow of it all, including
the last heavy slip landing on our 24 X 1600 paved strip at Rake's Glen
(WA59). My wife Miggles, daughter Erica, good friends Lynn and Greg, with
ex-UA Captain, CFI, builder & ace pilot neighbor John handling ground COM.
We had to wait until 1130 for low fog to burn off, then it was time to go.

I was loaded with 9 gal. left tank, 13 gal. right, and perhaps 10 lb. right
seat, yielding a rather forward 12.8 CG (more on that later) and pretty
light. With 10 deg. flaps, liftoff was at about 600 ft., though I was
probably holding it on a bit too much. Takeoff thrust was more than
adequately awesome. Maybe not *quite* like John's IO-540 powered Harmon
Rocket, but you wouldn't know it by me! <g>

EGT's at initial full throttle were briefly high enough to set the EFIS
squawking at me (probably a normal phenomenon, and I had the alarm set too
low, intentionally, but needlessly) but at 500 ft. I lowered the climb angle
(still over 600 FPM) and throttled back a little, and the EGT's went right
down in 5-10 seconds. (In fact, the only time *any* temps were ever out of
the green throughout all the flights and maneuvers reported here was during
the first 15-20 seconds of each takeoff, and then only the EGT's -- around
1400 F indicated, which is about redline for the Jabiru. I turned left for
Sequim Valley Airport (W28), 2M SW, as planned because it has a 46 ft. wide
strip -- where I would do the first landings before returning to our skinny
one. At the initial climb angle, some light right rudder was required, but
hardly any was needed after lowering the deck and throttling back 150 RPM
(+/-) to 600 FPM climb.

Not being very familiar with the attitude visuals, I was surprised to
realize that, in what seemed like no time, I was well over 1500 ft. and
still climbing steadily at 400+ FPM, 80 MPH or so. Oh, oh, past time to pull
the flaps up -- resulting in a good surge forward. It was a glorious clear
day, I could already see W28 ahead, so as planned I just kept climbing at
about 400 FPM through 3000, on up to 5300 -- I wanted at least a mile, after
all. :) By that time I had already tried some rudder wags, which showed
the plane to be dynamically stable in yaw after 2-3 oscillations. At the
3000 level, circling wide over the airport, I got a little more adventurous
with roll exercises. In turns, say left -- the ball goes a little right --
and it took me a little while to realize I would have to unlearn my muscle
memory which always adds a little rudder into the turn. Bottom line is this
plane doesn't need rudder in turns! By the time I got to 5000, I was doing
45 deg. banks. When the plane rolls, I have pull the stick back to center a
bit to stop the roll... nothing unusual there.

At 5000 ft., I tried an approach to power off stall, no flaps, which began
to get squirrelly at 50 MPH indicated -- didn't get to a buffet or break --
so I pushed over and carried on. (I just wanted to confirm a reasonable
approach speed.) Surprisingly, the AOA, which hasn't even been calibrated
yet, started squawking on cue ("Angle, angle, push, angle, angle, push) at
about 54 MPH. Fine! :) Awhile later, I tried the same maneuver with 10
deg. flaps, and handling got a little loosey (rudder steering in play) at
about 45 MPH. No surprises in any of that. With flaps, slow flight at 50 MPH
would be easy. The plane flies "heavier" and with less responsive controls
than the light planes I fly most often, but it wasn't hard to get used to...
by the third landing, when I got around to some more active dancing on the
pedals. All that means is the plane is just wonderfully stable. My panic
about control friction two months ago was easily forgotten. Not a problem at
all.

I then set up for cruise and I have to say, as Buddha is my witness, this
plane flies SUPER! Easily trimmed without much input, it flew hands off for
at least 30 seconds, and would have probably done longer except that was
about the time I decided it was good enough <g> and wanted to do something
else. Straight and level at ~2800 RPM -- Jabiru cruise setting -- I was
getting 108-110 MPH indicated (!) -- and am happy as a clam with that! Fact
is, I completely forgot to try reflex the whole first flight -- more on that
later. Truth is, I was having so much fun, I didn't want to come down.
Really, really didn't want to come down.

But first landings must be made, so down I came. The first landing was high
(and my story is that was on purpose, and I'm stickin' to it) and I touched
down about half way down the 3500 ft. runway. The video, which will be
posted anon, shows a pretty small bounce, a lot less bounce than it felt
like! Ha. I did notice a distinct lack of elevator authority deep in the
flare -- in every landing. I taxiid off and shut down, beamed and screamed,
and managed to keep back the misty eyes of joyful relief for a whole 2-3
minutes. Don't know how. Deep hugs. I have an awesome mate and daughter...
they've put up with a lot, as you all know from your own lives. What a
fantastic moment -- to be able to fly the airplane you've slaved over for
years, to land it, on a gorgeous day, with those closest to you clapping and
beaming almost as much as I was... it doesn't get any better. Total time
first flight = 0.9 hr.

We found a little oil at the rear cowl outlet... which was rather quickly
traced to a too loose spin-on oil filter, which was left from an early oil
change at 1.7 TTE. I had test run it with no leaks, but not with significant
pressure. All the hoses, etc., were fine. Found a strap wrench and tightened
it down, no further problems. Had lunch under the wing. Wow. Took off for
three (or was it four?) more circuits. The plane climbs (lightly loaded, 144
ft. field elev., of course) over 1200 FPM without even trying! Who knows
what it will do when I try for V(x), or learn how to fly it, eh? As Eric
says, the wings are filled with helium.

Landings were, uh, a little variable. The second one was worst. I got on the
brakes too early and too hard and went swinging, but got it under control.
The next couple of landings (all at ~15 deg. flap) were pretty good,
although I did not have enough elevator authority late in the flare. That
was partly from the forward CG, no doubt, but I will have to look at my
deflection (currently ~22 deg. up) again. The other landings were pretty
good. In short, the plane landed as well as I could fly it. Now for some not
so good, and then some awesomely good stuff.

On the down side, the right window popped open on two takeoffs at W28. When
the window falls, the plane yaws to the right (can I get some beginning
multi-engine time credit here?) and the fuse starts oil-canning, making
quite a racket. The first time I landed, went to the ramp, shutdown, and
closed it. Not good enough. The second time, I shut down, and tightened the
pivot bolt of my turning-lever-style window latch, which had just been too
loose. No further problem. After the last flight, I found I'd developed a
small fuel leak at some fitting inside the left root fairing and will have
to track that down. The engine puts a lot of suction on the AeroCarb
throttle body carb, and if you let go of the friction throttle control
before locking it up, the engine falls to idle rather abruptly, which can be
unnerving the first couple of times, even when you know what's happening.
Gotta be very careful of that. I should, and will, have a vernier rather
than friction control soon. Other than those items and the elevator
authority issue, all of which will probably be rather easily solved, the
plane, engine & prop behaved flawlessly. How good?

OK, what you've all been waiting for, I'm told. (Wake up Garry.) On the
final flight, back to the tiny home strip, I climbed to 2000 and decided it
was time to finally stretch the Jabiru out, finally using some ~ 5 deg.
reflex flap (lunges forward with that) and find out how the 68x38 prop
spinning so smoothly on the Jabiru would really perform. Straight and level,
118-119 MPH indicated @ 3120 RPM !!! I am not lying. If I'd held it longer,
trimmed a bit more, etc., I would have undoubtedly gotten over 120. Wow, and
I don't even know how to fly the thing yet, or exactly what reflex I'm
getting, or what's best for this plane, or... Not to mention that there are
no strut fairings, no push-pull fairings, no gap seal between the flaperon
halves yet! With those things in place, and the prop not close to the 3300
RPM redline yet, I should easily see 125 MPH when it's cleaned up. When the
static RPM test gave a perfect 2820 RPM, I knew the climb would be fine, but
didn't know if I would suffer in cruise. Fortunately, it's definitely not
over-revving, and won't. No I haven't calibrated the ASI (but it should be
pretty close), yes it was light, relatively low altitude, starting at sea
level -- and I forgot to even look at ground speed (*ever, in all the day's
flights -- what's with that?*) -- but I must say I am totally stoked with
those numbers! With super climb, and those speed numbers, I wouldn't change
the prop -- or the engine -- a bit.

I think I can also, already, definitively claim that all the debate, all the
nay-saying about the high-revving Jabiru engine being inappropriate for a
small bush plane -- at least this one, on wheels -- is hogwash.

I still had to land on our little strip, where I've come in sitting right
seat with the neighbors many times, but have never landed anything here
before. (Renters are prohibited from landing such small strips.) Wind was
excellent (say hallelujah!), about 5-6 KTS, only about 10 deg. off RWY 25.
Approaching from the east, one has to skim over some 80+ ft. trees along the
river, with sink before them and lift after -- even in 4-5 KTS -- and then
get down very quickly to the numbers -- while initially still in the lift
effect of rising wind over the trees, etc.) So I did the first, routine
required (local procedure) fly over at 500 to feel for the trees. I did a
second pass, reaching down to about 100 ft. over the trees, and then down to
about 150 ft., intending all along to go around, and did. The third time I
came about 50 ft. over the trees, then threw it into a pretty heavy slip
(yet another first in plane and location) and landed uneventfully about 1/3
down the runway. Total flight time for the day = 2.2 hrs.

There are so many to thank. Five years ago I joined this list. About 8 mos.
later, my decision to get a Rebel kit was at least 1/3 based on the
wonderful support, and friendships, that were, and still are apparent on
this list. Everything that's happened here since has more than validated
that reasoning, and I am extremely grateful to *all* of you for your help,
your encouragement, and your patience with my "Duh" queries and long winded
jabbering. Many other airplane lists have too many people, with no small
amount of bad advice, and some lists are too small to get any advice, much
less good advice, when you need it at all. This group is a good size, the
help comes fast and the advice is great. It's very special.

There are so many to thank, including dozens on this list. I'm reluctant to
single out people, for fear of leaving out so many others, but I have to
mention two. First, Garry Wright, who took me along in C-FOKM's right seat
for the '07 Ramble. I already had the kit but no Rebel time, and that
experience, both with the plane and with Garry, provided priceless learning
and motivation, and Garry has become a great and lasting friend. Who could
be so lucky again?

Second, but not second place, thanks to Jim LePard, who started building
254R 14 years ago, and has been more help than anyone since I began to
continue the work on "our" airplane 4-1/2 years ago. Jim did excellent work
on this plane when he had it, and I couldn't have asked for better
workmanship from a first builder. Much more importantly, Jim (A&P/IA) has
remained very interested in the project and provided me tons of advice,
mentoring and support, whenever I asked for it (way too often) without fail,
and with endless patience. (We have shared well over 1K emails in the last
4.5 years... really.) He's taught me 2/3 or more of what I've learned about
building airplanes, and more, and has become a wonderful friend. I could not
have done this without his generous help. No one could wish for a better
seller-buyer relationship. Thanks, Jim, for what you've given me, and for
who you are.

So here are the numbers in one place:

Flight test GW = ~1252 lbs.
CG = 12.8
Takeoff climb = 2900 RPM, at least 1200 FPM (nothing definitive there --
testing for V(x) etc. to come)
Easy cruise = 108-110 MPH @ 2800 RPM (+/-)
Flat out, 5 deg. reflex = 119 MPH @ 3120 RPM, no fairings, no tune, sloppy
trim, rookie pilot
Highest oil temp = ~170 F
CHT's never even in yellow
Fuel flow = ~ 5 GPH, as expected.

Photos and videos (including live A/V from the cockpit) will be up on
http://n254mr.com, but probably not until tomorrow. Well no, I won't be able
to sleep tonight so... before dawn. :-) BTW, one video shows the plane
taxiing out of the driveway, from a camera about 30 ft. away. The engine is
so quiet, you can easily hear an excited little dog barking about 350 ft.
away from the camera -- *beyond the airplane on the other side of the
runway!*

Folks, this is an awesome airplane, and the Jabiru 3300 with 68x38 Sensenich
is great! This pilot has a lot to learn, but couldn't be happier with the
plane or its performance. Keep building guys. All that delayed
gratification? It will not be lost. It's ecstasy in the bank. It will all
come back and more... in a flood when you get to fly your dream. At least,
that's what happened to me today.

Ron
254R

PS - When replying to this, as I know many will do, please give others a
break, and delete my long story from underneath your reply, so people won't
have to scroll all the way through it over and over. Thanks.




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N.Smith

[rebel-builders] 254R first flights

Post by N.Smith » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm

Congratulations Ron - and thanks for the photo's on your site.
Still riveting here... getting closer :-)
Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Shannon
Sent: 18 July 2010 06:43
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R first flights

[Ed.: This is long, so get something cold and some popcorn. And it's all
true -- especially the ecstasy.]


254R made her maiden flight(s) today, and performed extremely well, better
than the pilot, though he is now basking in the glow of it all, including
the last heavy slip landing on our 24 X 1600 paved strip at Rake's Glen
(WA59). My wife Miggles, daughter Erica, good friends Lynn and Greg, with
ex-UA Captain, CFI, builder & ace pilot neighbor John handling ground COM.
We had to wait until 1130 for low fog to burn off, then it was time to go.

I was loaded with 9 gal. left tank, 13 gal. right, and perhaps 10 lb. right
seat, yielding a rather forward 12.8 CG (more on that later) and pretty
light. With 10 deg. flaps, liftoff was at about 600 ft., though I was
probably holding it on a bit too much. Takeoff thrust was more than
adequately awesome. Maybe not *quite* like John's IO-540 powered Harmon
Rocket, but you wouldn't know it by me! <g>

EGT's at initial full throttle were briefly high enough to set the EFIS
squawking at me (probably a normal phenomenon, and I had the alarm set too
low, intentionally, but needlessly) but at 500 ft. I lowered the climb angle
(still over 600 FPM) and throttled back a little, and the EGT's went right
down in 5-10 seconds. (In fact, the only time *any* temps were ever out of
the green throughout all the flights and maneuvers reported here was during
the first 15-20 seconds of each takeoff, and then only the EGT's -- around
1400 F indicated, which is about redline for the Jabiru. I turned left for
Sequim Valley Airport (W28), 2M SW, as planned because it has a 46 ft. wide
strip -- where I would do the first landings before returning to our skinny
one. At the initial climb angle, some light right rudder was required, but
hardly any was needed after lowering the deck and throttling back 150 RPM
(+/-) to 600 FPM climb.

Not being very familiar with the attitude visuals, I was surprised to
realize that, in what seemed like no time, I was well over 1500 ft. and
still climbing steadily at 400+ FPM, 80 MPH or so. Oh, oh, past time to pull
the flaps up -- resulting in a good surge forward. It was a glorious clear
day, I could already see W28 ahead, so as planned I just kept climbing at
about 400 FPM through 3000, on up to 5300 -- I wanted at least a mile, after
all. :) By that time I had already tried some rudder wags, which showed
the plane to be dynamically stable in yaw after 2-3 oscillations. At the
3000 level, circling wide over the airport, I got a little more adventurous
with roll exercises. In turns, say left -- the ball goes a little right --
and it took me a little while to realize I would have to unlearn my muscle
memory which always adds a little rudder into the turn. Bottom line is this
plane doesn't need rudder in turns! By the time I got to 5000, I was doing
45 deg. banks. When the plane rolls, I have pull the stick back to center a
bit to stop the roll... nothing unusual there.

At 5000 ft., I tried an approach to power off stall, no flaps, which began
to get squirrelly at 50 MPH indicated -- didn't get to a buffet or break --
so I pushed over and carried on. (I just wanted to confirm a reasonable
approach speed.) Surprisingly, the AOA, which hasn't even been calibrated
yet, started squawking on cue ("Angle, angle, push, angle, angle, push) at
about 54 MPH. Fine! :) Awhile later, I tried the same maneuver with 10
deg. flaps, and handling got a little loosey (rudder steering in play) at
about 45 MPH. No surprises in any of that. With flaps, slow flight at 50 MPH
would be easy. The plane flies "heavier" and with less responsive controls
than the light planes I fly most often, but it wasn't hard to get used to...
by the third landing, when I got around to some more active dancing on the
pedals. All that means is the plane is just wonderfully stable. My panic
about control friction two months ago was easily forgotten. Not a problem at
all.

I then set up for cruise and I have to say, as Buddha is my witness, this
plane flies SUPER! Easily trimmed without much input, it flew hands off for
at least 30 seconds, and would have probably done longer except that was
about the time I decided it was good enough <g> and wanted to do something
else. Straight and level at ~2800 RPM -- Jabiru cruise setting -- I was
getting 108-110 MPH indicated (!) -- and am happy as a clam with that! Fact
is, I completely forgot to try reflex the whole first flight -- more on that
later. Truth is, I was having so much fun, I didn't want to come down.
Really, really didn't want to come down.

But first landings must be made, so down I came. The first landing was high
(and my story is that was on purpose, and I'm stickin' to it) and I touched
down about half way down the 3500 ft. runway. The video, which will be
posted anon, shows a pretty small bounce, a lot less bounce than it felt
like! Ha. I did notice a distinct lack of elevator authority deep in the
flare -- in every landing. I taxiid off and shut down, beamed and screamed,
and managed to keep back the misty eyes of joyful relief for a whole 2-3
minutes. Don't know how. Deep hugs. I have an awesome mate and daughter...
they've put up with a lot, as you all know from your own lives. What a
fantastic moment -- to be able to fly the airplane you've slaved over for
years, to land it, on a gorgeous day, with those closest to you clapping and
beaming almost as much as I was... it doesn't get any better. Total time
first flight = 0.9 hr.

We found a little oil at the rear cowl outlet... which was rather quickly
traced to a too loose spin-on oil filter, which was left from an early oil
change at 1.7 TTE. I had test run it with no leaks, but not with significant
pressure. All the hoses, etc., were fine. Found a strap wrench and tightened
it down, no further problems. Had lunch under the wing. Wow. Took off for
three (or was it four?) more circuits. The plane climbs (lightly loaded, 144
ft. field elev., of course) over 1200 FPM without even trying! Who knows
what it will do when I try for V(x), or learn how to fly it, eh? As Eric
says, the wings are filled with helium.

Landings were, uh, a little variable. The second one was worst. I got on the
brakes too early and too hard and went swinging, but got it under control.
The next couple of landings (all at ~15 deg. flap) were pretty good,
although I did not have enough elevator authority late in the flare. That
was partly from the forward CG, no doubt, but I will have to look at my
deflection (currently ~22 deg. up) again. The other landings were pretty
good. In short, the plane landed as well as I could fly it. Now for some not
so good, and then some awesomely good stuff.

On the down side, the right window popped open on two takeoffs at W28. When
the window falls, the plane yaws to the right (can I get some beginning
multi-engine time credit here?) and the fuse starts oil-canning, making
quite a racket. The first time I landed, went to the ramp, shutdown, and
closed it. Not good enough. The second time, I shut down, and tightened the
pivot bolt of my turning-lever-style window latch, which had just been too
loose. No further problem. After the last flight, I found I'd developed a
small fuel leak at some fitting inside the left root fairing and will have
to track that down. The engine puts a lot of suction on the AeroCarb
throttle body carb, and if you let go of the friction throttle control
before locking it up, the engine falls to idle rather abruptly, which can be
unnerving the first couple of times, even when you know what's happening.
Gotta be very careful of that. I should, and will, have a vernier rather
than friction control soon. Other than those items and the elevator
authority issue, all of which will probably be rather easily solved, the
plane, engine & prop behaved flawlessly. How good?

OK, what you've all been waiting for, I'm told. (Wake up Garry.) On the
final flight, back to the tiny home strip, I climbed to 2000 and decided it
was time to finally stretch the Jabiru out, finally using some ~ 5 deg.
reflex flap (lunges forward with that) and find out how the 68x38 prop
spinning so smoothly on the Jabiru would really perform. Straight and level,
118-119 MPH indicated @ 3120 RPM !!! I am not lying. If I'd held it longer,
trimmed a bit more, etc., I would have undoubtedly gotten over 120. Wow, and
I don't even know how to fly the thing yet, or exactly what reflex I'm
getting, or what's best for this plane, or... Not to mention that there are
no strut fairings, no push-pull fairings, no gap seal between the flaperon
halves yet! With those things in place, and the prop not close to the 3300
RPM redline yet, I should easily see 125 MPH when it's cleaned up. When the
static RPM test gave a perfect 2820 RPM, I knew the climb would be fine, but
didn't know if I would suffer in cruise. Fortunately, it's definitely not
over-revving, and won't. No I haven't calibrated the ASI (but it should be
pretty close), yes it was light, relatively low altitude, starting at sea
level -- and I forgot to even look at ground speed (*ever, in all the day's
flights -- what's with that?*) -- but I must say I am totally stoked with
those numbers! With super climb, and those speed numbers, I wouldn't change
the prop -- or the engine -- a bit.

I think I can also, already, definitively claim that all the debate, all the
nay-saying about the high-revving Jabiru engine being inappropriate for a
small bush plane -- at least this one, on wheels -- is hogwash.

I still had to land on our little strip, where I've come in sitting right
seat with the neighbors many times, but have never landed anything here
before. (Renters are prohibited from landing such small strips.) Wind was
excellent (say hallelujah!), about 5-6 KTS, only about 10 deg. off RWY 25.
Approaching from the east, one has to skim over some 80+ ft. trees along the
river, with sink before them and lift after -- even in 4-5 KTS -- and then
get down very quickly to the numbers -- while initially still in the lift
effect of rising wind over the trees, etc.) So I did the first, routine
required (local procedure) fly over at 500 to feel for the trees. I did a
second pass, reaching down to about 100 ft. over the trees, and then down to
about 150 ft., intending all along to go around, and did. The third time I
came about 50 ft. over the trees, then threw it into a pretty heavy slip
(yet another first in plane and location) and landed uneventfully about 1/3
down the runway. Total flight time for the day = 2.2 hrs.

There are so many to thank. Five years ago I joined this list. About 8 mos.
later, my decision to get a Rebel kit was at least 1/3 based on the
wonderful support, and friendships, that were, and still are apparent on
this list. Everything that's happened here since has more than validated
that reasoning, and I am extremely grateful to *all* of you for your help,
your encouragement, and your patience with my "Duh" queries and long winded
jabbering. Many other airplane lists have too many people, with no small
amount of bad advice, and some lists are too small to get any advice, much
less good advice, when you need it at all. This group is a good size, the
help comes fast and the advice is great. It's very special.

There are so many to thank, including dozens on this list. I'm reluctant to
single out people, for fear of leaving out so many others, but I have to
mention two. First, Garry Wright, who took me along in C-FOKM's right seat
for the '07 Ramble. I already had the kit but no Rebel time, and that
experience, both with the plane and with Garry, provided priceless learning
and motivation, and Garry has become a great and lasting friend. Who could
be so lucky again?

Second, but not second place, thanks to Jim LePard, who started building
254R 14 years ago, and has been more help than anyone since I began to
continue the work on "our" airplane 4-1/2 years ago. Jim did excellent work
on this plane when he had it, and I couldn't have asked for better
workmanship from a first builder. Much more importantly, Jim (A&P/IA) has
remained very interested in the project and provided me tons of advice,
mentoring and support, whenever I asked for it (way too often) without fail,
and with endless patience. (We have shared well over 1K emails in the last
4.5 years... really.) He's taught me 2/3 or more of what I've learned about
building airplanes, and more, and has become a wonderful friend. I could not
have done this without his generous help. No one could wish for a better
seller-buyer relationship. Thanks, Jim, for what you've given me, and for
who you are.

So here are the numbers in one place:

Flight test GW = ~1252 lbs.
CG = 12.8
Takeoff climb = 2900 RPM, at least 1200 FPM (nothing definitive there --
testing for V(x) etc. to come)
Easy cruise = 108-110 MPH @ 2800 RPM (+/-)
Flat out, 5 deg. reflex = 119 MPH @ 3120 RPM, no fairings, no tune, sloppy
trim, rookie pilot
Highest oil temp = ~170 F
CHT's never even in yellow
Fuel flow = ~ 5 GPH, as expected.

Photos and videos (including live A/V from the cockpit) will be up on
http://n254mr.com, but probably not until tomorrow. Well no, I won't be able
to sleep tonight so... before dawn. :-) BTW, one video shows the plane
taxiing out of the driveway, from a camera about 30 ft. away. The engine is
so quiet, you can easily hear an excited little dog barking about 350 ft.
away from the camera -- *beyond the airplane on the other side of the
runway!*

Folks, this is an awesome airplane, and the Jabiru 3300 with 68x38 Sensenich
is great! This pilot has a lot to learn, but couldn't be happier with the
plane or its performance. Keep building guys. All that delayed
gratification? It will not be lost. It's ecstasy in the bank. It will all
come back and more... in a flood when you get to fly your dream. At least,
that's what happened to me today.

Ron
254R

PS - When replying to this, as I know many will do, please give others a
break, and delete my long story from underneath your reply, so people won't
have to scroll all the way through it over and over. Thanks.




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