[rebel-builders] Return of Tailwheel Cam

Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:03 pm

Cool Thanks Eric Now you need to mount some skis and really have some fun.

At 10:16 PM 04/02/2010 -0800, you wrote:

Last year I posted a video on YouTube when my plane was first on amphib
floats. The tail perspective video came out far better than my half-assed
duct tape effort to attach my cheap Flip video could have ever expected.

Well, now I have return of tail-wheel cam video. No more duct tape, but
close to the same cheap investment in attachment, but still the same cheap
Flip video camera. The camera is mounted on the tail spear just ahead of the
tailwheel only several inches above the runway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2naB_o81qY

I am still learning how to fly with the third wheel on the back of the
airplane (instead of landing the amphib grocery cart on four wheels). I'm
having a ton of fun learning as the Murphy Elite and I assume Rebel and
Moose are very forgiving designs that handle really well as tail draggers.

I flew my airplane on amphib floats for its first year. After my first
annual, I converted back to conventional gear to enjoy the challenge of
learning how to fly (land) and tail dragger. Man is it fun. In the spring it
will be back to floats.

I now have a completely different airplane. Before on floats, my comfortable
cruising altitude after takeoff from our island airport was 100-500 feet.
Now without floats I have to think about making it to land as I fly over
water at 2000-3000 feet. Wow, that's scary high. I'm almost touching the
outer fringes of the atmosphere. Do I need a pressure suit and oxygen at
this level?

An immediate benefit of loosing the floats, the airplane flies 10 times
faster at near the speed of sound. Okay, I don't have real numbers yet, but
cruise on floats used to be about 97KIAS, and is now about 118KIAS. I like
that.

The video is not an instructional how-to video. It shows 3 landings: first a
wheel landing and then two attempts at a 3 point. The 3 points are more like
2 and 1/3 or maybe 1 and 2 and then 2 and 1/2 landings. All three wheels are
eventually on the ground.

The wind was calm and the airplane leaps off the runway so fast that I'd
takeoff south and immediately land north or vice versa. Oh, and the runway
is 2400 feet surrounded by 100-150 foot trees. I wouldn't do the same thing
in the Cessna 182 that we fly, but I'm at a comfortable pattern altitude 1/2
or 3/4's down the 2400 foot runway to make the turn and land the opposite
direction.

Enyoy.

Eric
N645E

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Glenn Taylor · Post by **Glenn Taylor** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:03 pm

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-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Fogelin <elist@whidbey.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:16:55
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Return of Tailwheel Cam

Last year I posted a video on YouTube when my plane was first on amphib
floats. The tail perspective video came out far better than my half-assed
duct tape effort to attach my cheap Flip video could have ever expected.

Well, now I have return of tail-wheel cam video. No more duct tape, but
close to the same cheap investment in attachment, but still the same cheap
Flip video camera. The camera is mounted on the tail spear just ahead of the
tailwheel only several inches above the runway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2naB_o81qY

I am still learning how to fly with the third wheel on the back of the
airplane (instead of landing the amphib grocery cart on four wheels). I'm
having a ton of fun learning as the Murphy Elite and I assume Rebel and
Moose are very forgiving designs that handle really well as tail draggers.

I flew my airplane on amphib floats for its first year. After my first
annual, I converted back to conventional gear to enjoy the challenge of
learning how to fly (land) and tail dragger. Man is it fun. In the spring it
will be back to floats.

I now have a completely different airplane. Before on floats, my comfortable
cruising altitude after takeoff from our island airport was 100-500 feet.
Now without floats I have to think about making it to land as I fly over
water at 2000-3000 feet. Wow, that's scary high. I'm almost touching the
outer fringes of the atmosphere. Do I need a pressure suit and oxygen at
this level?

An immediate benefit of loosing the floats, the airplane flies 10 times
faster at near the speed of sound. Okay, I don't have real numbers yet, but
cruise on floats used to be about 97KIAS, and is now about 118KIAS. I like
that.

The video is not an instructional how-to video. It shows 3 landings: first a
wheel landing and then two attempts at a 3 point. The 3 points are more like
2 and 1/3 or maybe 1 and 2 and then 2 and 1/2 landings. All three wheels are
eventually on the ground.

The wind was calm and the airplane leaps off the runway so fast that I'd
takeoff south and immediately land north or vice versa. Oh, and the runway
is 2400 feet surrounded by 100-150 foot trees. I wouldn't do the same thing
in the Cessna 182 that we fly, but I'm at a comfortable pattern altitude 1/2
or 3/4's down the 2400 foot runway to make the turn and land the opposite
direction.

Enyoy.

Eric
N645E

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Eric Fogelin · Post by **Eric Fogelin** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:03 pm

I really want to try skis. We barely get enough snow here at sea level on
Whidbey Island in Washington State, but get a ton of snow in the mountains
where there are frozen lakes and snow covered airstrips.

But, I can't believe how expensive certified skis are. So, I'm thinking that
after several years of floats and tail wheel fun, I'll try to find an
experimental fiberglass design that I can build myself. I'm sure there are
several dubious designs, but maybe there is a good set of plans out there.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Dalgleish
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Return of Tailwheel Cam

Cool Thanks Eric Now you need to mount some skis and really have some fun.

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N.Smith · Post by **N.Smith** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:03 pm

Awesome Eric

Thanks for posting that.... I'm still getting there :-)
Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: 05 February 2010 06:17
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Return of Tailwheel Cam

Last year I posted a video on YouTube when my plane was first on amphib
floats. The tail perspective video came out far better than my half-assed
duct tape effort to attach my cheap Flip video could have ever expected.

Well, now I have return of tail-wheel cam video. No more duct tape, but
close to the same cheap investment in attachment, but still the same cheap
Flip video camera. The camera is mounted on the tail spear just ahead of the
tailwheel only several inches above the runway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2naB_o81qY

I am still learning how to fly with the third wheel on the back of the
airplane (instead of landing the amphib grocery cart on four wheels). I'm
having a ton of fun learning as the Murphy Elite and I assume Rebel and
Moose are very forgiving designs that handle really well as tail draggers.

I flew my airplane on amphib floats for its first year. After my first
annual, I converted back to conventional gear to enjoy the challenge of
learning how to fly (land) and tail dragger. Man is it fun. In the spring it
will be back to floats.

I now have a completely different airplane. Before on floats, my comfortable
cruising altitude after takeoff from our island airport was 100-500 feet.
Now without floats I have to think about making it to land as I fly over
water at 2000-3000 feet. Wow, that's scary high. I'm almost touching the
outer fringes of the atmosphere. Do I need a pressure suit and oxygen at
this level?

An immediate benefit of loosing the floats, the airplane flies 10 times
faster at near the speed of sound. Okay, I don't have real numbers yet, but
cruise on floats used to be about 97KIAS, and is now about 118KIAS. I like
that.

The video is not an instructional how-to video. It shows 3 landings: first a
wheel landing and then two attempts at a 3 point. The 3 points are more like
2 and 1/3 or maybe 1 and 2 and then 2 and 1/2 landings. All three wheels are
eventually on the ground.

The wind was calm and the airplane leaps off the runway so fast that I'd
takeoff south and immediately land north or vice versa. Oh, and the runway
is 2400 feet surrounded by 100-150 foot trees. I wouldn't do the same thing
in the Cessna 182 that we fly, but I'm at a comfortable pattern altitude 1/2
or 3/4's down the 2400 foot runway to make the turn and land the opposite
direction.

Enyoy.

Eric
N645E

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Keith Leitch · Post by **Keith Leitch** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:03 pm

2,000-3,000 FEET!!!! Damned, don't you need an astronaut rating or something to fly that high? Can you still see the earth from there? Is it really round like they say? You are one brave soul to venture so high from the ground.....Someday maybe I will get that brave!!! LMAO!!!
Seriously though, I rarely get above 500'. ;)
Great video by the way. reminded me of my first Rebel ride in SI's georgous Rebel.
Keith

--- On Fri, 2/5/10, N.Smith <admin@airnig.co.uk> wrote:

From: N.Smith <admin@airnig.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Return of Tailwheel Cam
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 3:53 AM

Awesome Eric

Thanks for posting that.... I'm still getting there :-)
Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: 05 February 2010 06:17
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Return of Tailwheel Cam

Last year I posted a video on YouTube when my plane was first on amphib
floats. The tail perspective video came out far better than my half-assed
duct tape effort to attach my cheap Flip video could have ever expected.

Well, now I have return of tail-wheel cam video. No more duct tape, but
close to the same cheap investment in attachment, but still the same cheap
Flip video camera. The camera is mounted on the tail spear just ahead of the
tailwheel only several inches above the runway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2naB_o81qY

I am still learning how to fly with the third wheel on the back of the
airplane (instead of landing the amphib grocery cart on four wheels). I'm
having a ton of fun learning as the Murphy Elite and I assume Rebel and
Moose are very forgiving designs that handle really well as tail draggers.

I flew my airplane on amphib floats for its first year. After my first
annual, I converted back to conventional gear to enjoy the challenge of
learning how to fly (land) and tail dragger. Man is it fun. In the spring it
will be back to floats.

I now have a completely different airplane. Before on floats, my comfortable
cruising altitude after takeoff from our island airport was 100-500 feet.
Now without floats I have to think about making it to land as I fly over
water at 2000-3000 feet. Wow, that's scary high. I'm almost touching the
outer fringes of the atmosphere. Do I need a pressure suit and oxygen at
this level?

An immediate benefit of loosing the floats, the airplane flies 10 times
faster at near the speed of sound. Okay, I don't have real numbers yet, but
cruise on floats used to be about 97KIAS, and is now about 118KIAS. I like
that.

The video is not an instructional how-to video. It shows 3 landings: first a
wheel landing and then two attempts at a 3 point. The 3 points are more like
2 and 1/3 or maybe 1 and 2 and then 2 and 1/2 landings. All three wheels are
eventually on the ground.

The wind was calm and the airplane leaps off the runway so fast that I'd
takeoff south and immediately land north or vice versa. Oh, and the runway
is 2400 feet surrounded by 100-150 foot trees. I wouldn't do the same thing
in the Cessna 182 that we fly, but I'm at a comfortable pattern altitude 1/2
or 3/4's down the 2400 foot runway to make the turn and land the opposite
direction.

Enyoy.

Eric
N645E

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Jeff Micheal · Post by **Jeff Micheal** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:03 pm

Good Show Eric......

Thanks,
Jeff

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Eric Fogelin <elist@whidbey.com> wrote:

Last year I posted a video on YouTube when my plane was first on amphib
floats. The tail perspective video came out far better than my half-assed
duct tape effort to attach my cheap Flip video could have ever expected.

Well, now I have return of tail-wheel cam video. No more duct tape, but
close to the same cheap investment in attachment, but still the same cheap
Flip video camera. The camera is mounted on the tail spear just ahead of
the
tailwheel only several inches above the runway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2naB_o81qY

I am still learning how to fly with the third wheel on the back of the
airplane (instead of landing the amphib grocery cart on four wheels). I'm
having a ton of fun learning as the Murphy Elite and I assume Rebel and
Moose are very forgiving designs that handle really well as tail draggers.

I flew my airplane on amphib floats for its first year. After my first
annual, I converted back to conventional gear to enjoy the challenge of
learning how to fly (land) and tail dragger. Man is it fun. In the spring
it
will be back to floats.

I now have a completely different airplane. Before on floats, my
comfortable
cruising altitude after takeoff from our island airport was 100-500 feet.
Now without floats I have to think about making it to land as I fly over
water at 2000-3000 feet. Wow, that's scary high. I'm almost touching the
outer fringes of the atmosphere. Do I need a pressure suit and oxygen at
this level?

An immediate benefit of loosing the floats, the airplane flies 10 times
faster at near the speed of sound. Okay, I don't have real numbers yet, but
cruise on floats used to be about 97KIAS, and is now about 118KIAS. I like
that.

The video is not an instructional how-to video. It shows 3 landings: first
a
wheel landing and then two attempts at a 3 point. The 3 points are more
like
2 and 1/3 or maybe 1 and 2 and then 2 and 1/2 landings. All three wheels
are
eventually on the ground.

The wind was calm and the airplane leaps off the runway so fast that I'd
takeoff south and immediately land north or vice versa. Oh, and the runway
is 2400 feet surrounded by 100-150 foot trees. I wouldn't do the same thing
in the Cessna 182 that we fly, but I'm at a comfortable pattern altitude
1/2
or 3/4's down the 2400 foot runway to make the turn and land the opposite
direction.

Enyoy.

Eric
N645E

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