[rebel-builders] Scott 2000 tail wheel

N.Smith · Post by **N.Smith** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Hi Charlie

I've recently come across this as a possible option

http://www.irondesign-airparts.com/tailwheels.htm

Can't vouch for it on an Elite or Rebel but might be worth a look ?

Nig
745E

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Charlie Eubanks
Sent: 18 January 2010 16:42
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Subject: [rebel-builders] Scott 2000 tail wheel

Hello All

I have looked through the very extensive archives about tail wheels and I
still have a question. Consider the following. I plan to certify my Rebel at

1320 Lbs. and have an old Scott 2000 (6" hard rubber tire) tail wheel off my

Luscombe which I replaced with a new trouble free Scott 2000 15 +years ago,
Today the Scott wheels are hard to fine and are so expensive, I intend to
make the necessary parts and put it back in to service. If I install a steel

spring and the "rebuilt" Scott wheel, it will weigh 8.2 Lbs. or about 2.2
Lbs more then the Rebel wheel & spring that came with my kit. It's not a
fork type tail wheel but is there any reason why this wheel wouldn't work on

the Rebel? Is there anybody who has had success/failure with this wheel on
their Rebel I sure would like to hear from you.

Charlie E. 802R

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Charlie Eubanks · Post by **Charlie Eubanks** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Thanks Nig
Did not see the weight of the tail wheel on his website so I sent Scott a
e-mail..
Thanks for the info.
Charlie
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Scott 2000 tail wheel

Hi Charlie

I've recently come across this as a possible option

http://www.irondesign-airparts.com/tailwheels.htm

Can't vouch for it on an Elite or Rebel but might be worth a look ?

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie Eubanks
Sent: 18 January 2010 16:42
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Scott 2000 tail wheel

Hello All

I have looked through the very extensive archives about tail wheels and I
still have a question. Consider the following. I plan to certify my Rebel
at

1320 Lbs. and have an old Scott 2000 (6" hard rubber tire) tail wheel off
my

Luscombe which I replaced with a new trouble free Scott 2000 15 +years
ago,
Today the Scott wheels are hard to fine and are so expensive, I intend to
make the necessary parts and put it back in to service. If I install a
steel

spring and the "rebuilt" Scott wheel, it will weigh 8.2 Lbs. or about 2.2
Lbs more then the Rebel wheel & spring that came with my kit. It's not a
fork type tail wheel but is there any reason why this wheel wouldn't work
on

the Rebel? Is there anybody who has had success/failure with this wheel on
their Rebel I sure would like to hear from you.

Charlie E. 802R

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Garry Wright · Post by **Garry Wright** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

I had a rear fuselage failure on the left side when I required the Scott
2000 (old number 24B) to jump about a 1 1/2" pavement edge. Partly
because of its small diameter, partly because it is hard and partly
because the fuse did not have one of the later reinforcements in the
tail end, I got a couple of wrinkles in the tailcone which were a lot
harder to fix than they are to make up initially. Keep away from little
jumps and it will likely be okay. I think the hard wheels have been
largely successful for most people but not in this case. A common
comment is that the pneumatic tire is a good deal more pleasant to taxi
with and I would second that. I sold my 24B and got the 3200.

Garry

Charlie Eubanks wrote:

Hello All

I have looked through the very extensive archives about tail wheels and I
still have a question. Consider the following. I plan to certify my Rebel at
1320 Lbs. and have an old Scott 2000 (6" hard rubber tire) tail wheel off my
Luscombe which I replaced with a new trouble free Scott 2000 15 +years ago,
Today the Scott wheels are hard to fine and are so expensive, I intend to
make the necessary parts and put it back in to service. If I install a steel
spring and the "rebuilt" Scott wheel, it will weigh 8.2 Lbs. or about 2.2
Lbs more then the Rebel wheel & spring that came with my kit. It's not a
fork type tail wheel but is there any reason why this wheel wouldn't work on
the Rebel? Is there anybody who has had success/failure with this wheel on
their Rebel I sure would like to hear from you.

Charlie E. 802R

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Ron Shannon · Post by **Ron Shannon** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Charlie,

FWIW, I have the Iron Designs tailwheel on a modified Champ spring. It's
very high quality workmanship. I can't say much about how it works yet
though, because the longest I've run it at one time so far is about 8 ft. --
pushing by hand. :) Hopefully, that statistic will get longer before too
long.

Ron
254R

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Charlie Eubanks
<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

Thanks Nig
Did not see the weight of the tail wheel on his website so I sent Scott a
e-mail..
Thanks for the info.
Charlie
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Charlie Eubanks · Post by **Charlie Eubanks** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Ron
You may recall I am going for 1320 Lbs. Just got Scotts reply. The Iron
Design is a nice looking product but it's 4-3/4 Lbs. heaver then the what
came with the kit. Thanks for the help.
Charlie

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From: "Ron Shannon" <rshannon@cruzcom.com>
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Scott 2000 tail wheel

Charlie,

FWIW, I have the Iron Designs tailwheel on a modified Champ spring. It's
very high quality workmanship. I can't say much about how it works yet
though, because the longest I've run it at one time so far is about 8
ft. --
pushing by hand. :) Hopefully, that statistic will get longer before too
long.

Ron
254R

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Charlie Eubanks
<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

Thanks Nig
Did not see the weight of the tail wheel on his website so I sent Scott a
e-mail..
Thanks for the info.
Charlie
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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Scott 2000 tail wheel

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Charlie Eubanks · Post by **Charlie Eubanks** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Garry
Thanks for telling me of your experience. I am afraid at 1320 GW the extra
4-3/4 Lbs.of the 3200 way back there would be to much. I have had good
success with the Scott 2000 on my Luscombe, maybe I could retrofit a
pneumatic tire for it.
Charlie
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Scott 2000 tail wheel

I had a rear fuselage failure on the left side when I required the Scott
2000 (old number 24B) to jump about a 1 1/2" pavement edge. Partly
because of its small diameter, partly because it is hard and partly
because the fuse did not have one of the later reinforcements in the
tail end, I got a couple of wrinkles in the tailcone which were a lot
harder to fix than they are to make up initially. Keep away from little
jumps and it will likely be okay. I think the hard wheels have been
largely successful for most people but not in this case. A common
comment is that the pneumatic tire is a good deal more pleasant to taxi
with and I would second that. I sold my 24B and got the 3200.

Garry

Charlie Eubanks wrote:
Hello All

I have looked through the very extensive archives about tail wheels and I
still have a question. Consider the following. I plan to certify my Rebel
at
1320 Lbs. and have an old Scott 2000 (6" hard rubber tire) tail wheel off
my
Luscombe which I replaced with a new trouble free Scott 2000 15 +years
ago,
Today the Scott wheels are hard to fine and are so expensive, I intend to
make the necessary parts and put it back in to service. If I install a
steel
spring and the "rebuilt" Scott wheel, it will weigh 8.2 Lbs. or about 2.2
Lbs more then the Rebel wheel & spring that came with my kit. It's not a
fork type tail wheel but is there any reason why this wheel wouldn't work
on
the Rebel? Is there anybody who has had success/failure with this wheel
on
their Rebel I sure would like to hear from you.

Charlie E. 802R

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Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

At 10:42 AM 18/01/2010 -0600, you wrote:

Hello All

I have looked through the very extensive archives about tail wheels and I
still have a question. Consider the following. I plan to certify my Rebel at
1320 Lbs. and have an old Scott 2000 (6" hard rubber tire) tail wheel off my
Luscombe which I replaced with a new trouble free Scott 2000 15 +years ago,
Today the Scott wheels are hard to fine and are so expensive, I intend to
make the necessary parts and put it back in to service. If I install a steel
spring and the "rebuilt" Scott wheel, it will weigh 8.2 Lbs. or about 2.2
Lbs more then the Rebel wheel & spring that came with my kit. It's not a
fork type tail wheel but is there any reason why this wheel wouldn't work on
the Rebel? Is there anybody who has had success/failure with this wheel on
their Rebel I sure would like to hear from you.

Charlie E. 802R

There's nothing wrong with the murphy tailwheel other than the solid tire.
Since you're OK with a solid tire why not just use the MAM tailwheel and
save 2.2lbs. If you don't like it after flying for a while it's not
something that would be difficult to change later.
Drew

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Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:58 pm

At 06:14 PM 18/01/2010 -0000, you wrote:

Hi Charlie

I've recently come across this as a possible option

http://www.irondesign-airparts.com/tailwheels.htm

Can't vouch for it on an Elite or Rebel but might be worth a look ?

Nig
745E

You can also build it yourself from plans by Bob Barrows. That's what I did
and it's a good strong tailwheel but it's not light.
Drew

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