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Dale Fultz

[rebel-builders] Parts needed

Post by Dale Fultz » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 pm

Hi Roger,
If the tail spring happens to be the same as the Super Rebel or Moose I
have one you can have.. Let me know. Dale N269DF SR-033
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Cole" <rcole927@earthlink.net>
To: "Rebel Builders" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Parts needed

Hello Builders,
Does anyone have either of the following parts for an Elite that you
can sell to me:
CC-35-1 Torque Tube Assembly
LG-64 Tail Spring


Roger Cole
Murphy Elite #709
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Roger Cole

[rebel-builders] Parts needed

Post by Roger Cole » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 pm

Hi Dale,
How much $ do you want for the tail spring? Of course, I will pay
for shipping. You can contact me off list (see below) so we can make
arrangements for shipping. Thanks, and best regards.
-----
Roger Cole
395 West Elm Park Avenue
Elmhurst, IL 60126
630-279-7560
rcole927@earthlink.net
Murphy Elite s/n 709E



On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:12 AM, Dale Fultz wrote:
Hi Roger,
If the tail spring happens to be the same as the Super Rebel or
Moose I
have one you can have.. Let me know. Dale N269DF SR-033
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Cole" <rcole927@earthlink.net>
To: "Rebel Builders" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Parts needed

Hello Builders,
Does anyone have either of the following parts for an Elite that you
can sell to me:
CC-35-1 Torque Tube Assembly
LG-64 Tail Spring


Roger Cole
Murphy Elite #709
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Jeff Micheal

[rebel-builders] Parts needed

Post by Jeff Micheal » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 pm

Roger,

The SR2500 tail spring LG-0065 should work for the Elite application
(LG-0064). If I recall correctly the only difference was the wall thickness
of the material used. The solid tail spring used for the Moose will work,
but you will require some modifications to fit the application.

Cheers,
Jeff


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Dale Fultz <dfultz17086@embarqmail.com>wrote:
Hi Roger,
If the tail spring happens to be the same as the Super Rebel or Moose I
have one you can have.. Let me know. Dale N269DF SR-033
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Cole" <rcole927@earthlink.net>
To: "Rebel Builders" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Parts needed

Hello Builders,
Does anyone have either of the following parts for an Elite that you
can sell to me:
CC-35-1 Torque Tube Assembly
LG-64 Tail Spring


Roger Cole
Murphy Elite #709
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Ron Stahla

[rebel-builders] Parts needed

Post by Ron Stahla » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 pm

Roger,



It is my understanding that one of the tail springs in the WAG-AERO catalog will work on the Murphy kits. Dom't know the one. Their sales person needed the specs and could not get them from Murphy. Maybe someone could help. It would help lots of us.



Ron Stahla
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Parts needed
From: rcole927@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:10:28 -0500

Hello Builders,
Does anyone have either of the following parts for an Elite that you
can sell to me:
CC-35-1 Torque Tube Assembly
LG-64 Tail Spring


Roger Cole
Murphy Elite #709
rcole927@earthlink.net







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Ron Shannon

[rebel-builders] Parts needed

Post by Ron Shannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 pm

Several different stock springs can work, depending on your needs and wheel
selection, etc. I and others have used a 7AC Champ spring -- in my case,
slightly modified. It's available from several sources, including Aircraft
Spruce. I chose it to work with a pneumatic wheel from Iron Designs that is
similar to a Scott. Others have made their own from automotive leaf spring
sets with good results. Let me know if you'd like more info. There's also
quite a bit of discussion on this topic in the message archives.

Ron
254R


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Ron Stahla <rmstahla@hotmail.com> wrote:
Roger,



It is my understanding that one of the tail springs in the WAG-AERO catalog
will work on the Murphy kits. Dom't know the one. Their sales person
needed the specs and could not get them from Murphy. Maybe someone could
help. It would help lots of us.



Ron Stahla


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Jeff Micheal

[rebel-builders] Parts needed

Post by Jeff Micheal » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 pm

FWI..... The Elite & SR2500 utilizes Round Tube for a tail spring. The
Yukon and Moose have a Solid Round Bar tail spring, also noting that not too
long ago the diameter of the Moose/Yukon tail spring has changed from 1" to
1 1/16" and gained approx 3" in length.

The Rebel, Maverick and Renegade Series all use the same Flat Bar tail
spring.

Just in case there was any confusion........ But saying all that, you could
use the current Moose/Yukon tail spring in the Elite but you would have to
make some minor modifications.

Just a curious question here Roger.......... Why would you need another
Control Column (CC0035-1) ? Email me off list if you don't want to answer in
the forum.


Cheers,
Jeff


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Ron Shannon <rshannon@cruzcom.com> wrote:
Several different stock springs can work, depending on your needs and wheel
selection, etc. I and others have used a 7AC Champ spring -- in my case,
slightly modified. It's available from several sources, including Aircraft
Spruce. I chose it to work with a pneumatic wheel from Iron Designs that is
similar to a Scott. Others have made their own from automotive leaf spring
sets with good results. Let me know if you'd like more info. There's also
quite a bit of discussion on this topic in the message archives.

Ron
254R


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Ron Stahla <rmstahla@hotmail.com> wrote:
Roger,



It is my understanding that one of the tail springs in the WAG-AERO
catalog
will work on the Murphy kits. Dom't know the one. Their sales person
needed the specs and could not get them from Murphy. Maybe someone could
help. It would help lots of us.



Ron Stahla


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gtessier

[rebel-builders] Parts needed

Post by gtessier » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 pm

I recently replaced the tail spring on Elite 755. MAM did not have any in
stock, and were uncertain when they would be getting a production run heat
treated. It cost the same to heat treat a dozen pieces as it does to do one
spring. There has been different designs made of the tail spring on the Elite.
Including a tube in tube which gave a total thickness of .125 wall which is
what was with my kit. The tail spring on the SR2500 can work, but is
significantly thicker material, and it fits in the swivel ball rear mount (forgot
the proper name). If the moose stinger is used, then that rear mount needs
to be replaced.

Info from MAM on the Elite tail spring specs:

- minimum 1 X .125 wall 4130 or 5130 steel
- the tube needs to be heat treated to 200,000 lbs/psi Ultimate tensile
strength

I opted to use 1 X .156 4130 and upgraded the forward mounting brackets
as well. The original were 1/8" and MAM recommended either 3/16" or 1/4"
stock upgrade. The SR 2500 forward mounting brackets are 1/4 " and have a
different bolt pattern than the Elite.

The heat treating shops wanted $450.00 - $650.00 to do the one piece. It
pays to shop and beg.......... I got it done for $250.00. Thanks goodness for
friends and networking.

The upgrades added approx 1 1/2 lbs to the tail. I find it more positive for
ground handling. (less wiggly)

Gilbert Tessier
Elite 755




On 10/27/2009 2:04 PM, westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com wrote to rebel-
builders:

-> FWI..... The Elite & SR2500 utilizes Round Tube for a tail spring. The
-> Yukon and Moose have a Solid Round Bar tail spring, also noting that not
too
-> long ago the diameter of the Moose/Yukon tail spring has changed from 1"
to
-> 1 1/16" and gained approx 3" in length.
->
-> The Rebel, Maverick and Renegade Series all use the same Flat Bar tail
-> spring.
->
-> Just in case there was any confusion........ But saying all that, you could
-> use the current Moose/Yukon tail spring in the Elite but you would have to
-> make some minor modifications.
->
-> Just a curious question here Roger.......... Why would you need another
-> Control Column (CC0035-1) ? Email me off list if you don't want to answer
in
-> the forum.
->
->
-> Cheers,
-> Jeff
->
->
-> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Ron Shannon
<rshannon@cruzcom.com> wrote:
->
-> > Several different stock springs can work, depending on your needs and
wheel
-> > selection, etc. I and others have used a 7AC Champ spring -- in my
case,
-> > slightly modified. It's available from several sources, including Aircraft
-> > Spruce. I chose it to work with a pneumatic wheel from Iron Designs
that is
-> > similar to a Scott. Others have made their own from automotive leaf
spring
-> > sets with good results. Let me know if you'd like more info. There's also
-> > quite a bit of discussion on this topic in the message archives.
-> >
-> > Ron
-> > 254R
-> >
-> >
-> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Ron Stahla <rmstahla@hotmail.com>
wrote:
-> >
-> > >
-> > > Roger,
-> > >
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > It is my understanding that one of the tail springs in the WAG-AERO
-> > catalog
-> > > will work on the Murphy kits. Dom't know the one. Their sales person
-> > > needed the specs and could not get them from Murphy. Maybe
someone could
-> > > help. It would help lots of us.
-> > >
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > Ron Stahla
-> > >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
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-> > username "rebel" password "builder"
-> > Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
-> > List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
->




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Roger Cole

[rebel-builders] Parts needed

Post by Roger Cole » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:41 pm

Thanks to everyone for your help.
-------------Roger
On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:58 PM, gtessier@shaw.ca wrote:
I recently replaced the tail spring on Elite 755. MAM did not have
any in
stock, and were uncertain when they would be getting a production
run heat
treated. It cost the same to heat treat a dozen pieces as it does
to do one
spring. There has been different designs made of the tail spring
on the Elite.
Including a tube in tube which gave a total thickness of .125 wall
which is
what was with my kit. The tail spring on the SR2500 can work, but is
significantly thicker material, and it fits in the swivel ball rear
mount (forgot
the proper name). If the moose stinger is used, then that rear
mount needs
to be replaced.

Info from MAM on the Elite tail spring specs:

- minimum 1 X .125 wall 4130 or 5130 steel
- the tube needs to be heat treated to 200,000 lbs/psi Ultimate
tensile
strength

I opted to use 1 X .156 4130 and upgraded the forward mounting
brackets
as well. The original were 1/8" and MAM recommended either 3/16"
or 1/4"
stock upgrade. The SR 2500 forward mounting brackets are 1/4 " and
have a
different bolt pattern than the Elite.

The heat treating shops wanted $450.00 - $650.00 to do the one
piece. It
pays to shop and beg.......... I got it done for $250.00. Thanks
goodness for
friends and networking.

The upgrades added approx 1 1/2 lbs to the tail. I find it more
positive for
ground handling. (less wiggly)

Gilbert Tessier
Elite 755




On 10/27/2009 2:04 PM, westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com wrote to rebel-
builders:

-> FWI..... The Elite & SR2500 utilizes Round Tube for a tail
spring. The
-> Yukon and Moose have a Solid Round Bar tail spring, also noting
that not
too
-> long ago the diameter of the Moose/Yukon tail spring has changed
from 1"
to
-> 1 1/16" and gained approx 3" in length.
->
-> The Rebel, Maverick and Renegade Series all use the same Flat
Bar tail
-> spring.
->
-> Just in case there was any confusion........ But saying all
that, you could
-> use the current Moose/Yukon tail spring in the Elite but you
would have to
-> make some minor modifications.
->
-> Just a curious question here Roger.......... Why would you need
another
-> Control Column (CC0035-1) ? Email me off list if you don't want
to answer
in
-> the forum.
->
->
-> Cheers,
-> Jeff
->
->
-> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Ron Shannon
<rshannon@cruzcom.com> wrote:
->
-> > Several different stock springs can work, depending on your
needs and
wheel
-> > selection, etc. I and others have used a 7AC Champ spring --
in my
case,
-> > slightly modified. It's available from several sources,
including Aircraft
-> > Spruce. I chose it to work with a pneumatic wheel from Iron
Designs
that is
-> > similar to a Scott. Others have made their own from automotive
leaf
spring
-> > sets with good results. Let me know if you'd like more info.
There's also
-> > quite a bit of discussion on this topic in the message archives.
-> >
-> > Ron
-> > 254R
-> >
-> >
-> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Ron Stahla
<rmstahla@hotmail.com>
wrote:
-> >
-> > >
-> > > Roger,
-> > >
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > It is my understanding that one of the tail springs in the
WAG-AERO
-> > catalog
-> > > will work on the Murphy kits. Dom't know the one. Their
sales person
-> > > needed the specs and could not get them from Murphy. Maybe
someone could
-> > > help. It would help lots of us.
-> > >
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > Ron Stahla
-> > >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
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-> >
-> >
-> >
->




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