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N.Smith

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by N.Smith » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm

Hi Mike

I have no experience in this, but my gut feeling is not to weaken the strut
in any way at all. I'd look at making a bracket that attaches to the outside
of the strut with something like large jubilee clips without making any
holes in the strut at all.

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: 14 March 2009 21:49
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about = length to mount a camera
to. Any structural reason not to?

Thanks for input.

Mike Betti

N771ME





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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm

Hi Mike !

I'm with Nigel !! Maybe you could use large gear clamps
around the strut to fasten a bracket. I really wouldn't want
to drill any holes !

On TV shoots, the guys even use duct tape !! :-)

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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 15 March 2009 18:28, N.Smith wrote:
Hi Mike

I have no experience in this, but my gut feeling is not to weaken the
strut in any way at all. I'd look at making a bracket that attaches to the
outside of the strut with something like large jubilee clips without
making any holes in the strut at all.

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: 14 March 2009 21:49
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about = length to mount a camera
to. Any structural reason not to?

Thanks for input.

Mike Betti

N771ME


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Eric Fogelin

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Eric Fogelin » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm

My latest camera mount is a step up from previously using duct tape.

I created a clamp out of 3/4" plywood that is cut to follow the shape of the
strut. I placed felt on the inside of the plywood to limit scuffing the
paint. Bolts pull the clamp halves together and is very secure with no
camera vibration.

No need to drill.

Eric
N645E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about

Mike Betti

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Mike Betti » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm

Thanks for the idea,
Can anybody out there make me a tracing of the profile of a wing strut and
send it to me on email. I don't have any scraps left from the build. Just a
pencil outline of the end profile put on a scanner?
Thanks,
mbetti@hughes.net


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

My latest camera mount is a step up from previously using duct tape.

I created a clamp out of 3/4" plywood that is cut to follow the shape of the
strut. I placed felt on the inside of the plywood to limit scuffing the
paint. Bolts pull the clamp halves together and is very secure with no
camera vibration.

No need to drill.

Eric
N645E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about

Mike Kimball

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Mike Kimball » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm

I do believe in caution regarding holes in the wing strut as mentioned by
others but if the Elite wing strut is constructed the same way the Super
Rebel/Moose strut is constructed I don't think 3/16" holes forward or aft of
the square tube inside and near the end of the streamlined strut would
reduce the strength of the strut. I have some #8 machine screw holes there
to secure my aluminum fairings. Of course, the wood clamp idea sounds simple
and avoids the issue altogether.

Mike
044SR

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about


Eric Fogelin

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Eric Fogelin » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm

Will do Mike. I'll pickup my scrap and drop it on my scanner and send you a
scan tomorrow. I'll also post to the builder's photo archive.

For float folks, Murphy uses the same extrusion for the wing struts and
float spreader bars. At least this is true for the Elite/1800 amphib combo.
So, you can mount your camera either place. You just have to make your
camera mount adjustable for level spreader bars or angled wing struts.

Eric
N645E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Thanks for the idea,
Can anybody out there make me a tracing of the profile of a wing strut and
send it to me on email. I don't have any scraps left from the build. Just a
pencil outline of the end profile put on a scanner?
Thanks,
mbetti@hughes.net


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

My latest camera mount is a step up from previously using duct tape.

I created a clamp out of 3/4" plywood that is cut to follow the shape of the
strut. I placed felt on the inside of the plywood to limit scuffing the
paint. Bolts pull the clamp halves together and is very secure with no
camera vibration.

No need to drill.

Eric
N645E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about

Ron Shannon

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Ron Shannon » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 pm

Eric,

Could you post a couple photos of your plywood camera mount? Are you still
using the same camera you started out with?

Thanks, from Sequim.

Ron
254R
http://n254mr.com




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Eric Fogelin

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Eric Fogelin » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:21 pm

Ron and Mike: I emailed you directly a picture of the camera mount and wing
strut cross section. Check your junk mail if it doesn't arrive.

I also uploaded these images to the archive image files in the: Elite -
Miscellaneous section.

Basically, I now have a general purpose plywood strut clamp and an aluminum
contraption to hold the camera. Currently, I am only using a 1-axis
adjustable setup between the two. Next, I'll replace my simple 1-axis hinge
with a 2-axis solution, later 3-axis. All made with scrap parts.

Eric
N645E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Thanks for the idea,
Can anybody out there make me a tracing of the profile of a wing strut and
send it to me on email. I don't have any scraps left from the build. Just a
pencil outline of the end profile put on a scanner?
Thanks,
mbetti@hughes.net


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

My latest camera mount is a step up from previously using duct tape.

I created a clamp out of 3/4" plywood that is cut to follow the shape of the
strut. I placed felt on the inside of the plywood to limit scuffing the
paint. Bolts pull the clamp halves together and is very secure with no
camera vibration.

No need to drill.

Eric
N645E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about

Mike Davis

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Mike Davis » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:21 pm

Mike a quick way to get a profile of a surface like this is to wrap it in
saran wrap, then use a can of expansion foam to squirt a blob of foam over
it a couple inches thick. Once it sets up you can cut the ends with a razor
blade, then run it through a band saw to give it square ends. Quick and
easy, and very accurate.

Mike

[quote]-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Thanks for the idea,
Can anybody out there make me a tracing of the profile of a wing strut and
send it to me on email. I don't have any scraps left from the build. Just
a
pencil outline of the end profile put on a scanner?
Thanks,
mbetti@hughes.net


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

My latest camera mount is a step up from previously using duct tape.

I created a clamp out of 3/4" plywood that is cut to follow the shape of
the
strut. I placed felt on the inside of the plywood to limit scuffing the
paint. Bolts pull the clamp halves together and is very secure with no
camera vibration.

No need to drill.

Eric
N645E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about

Mike Betti

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Mike Betti » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:21 pm

I have those holes for the cuff too. Going to go with the wood though.
Mike Betti

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Kimball
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:38 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I do believe in caution regarding holes in the wing strut as mentioned by
others but if the Elite wing strut is constructed the same way the Super
Rebel/Moose strut is constructed I don't think 3/16" holes forward or aft of
the square tube inside and near the end of the streamlined strut would
reduce the strength of the strut. I have some #8 machine screw holes there
to secure my aluminum fairings. Of course, the wood clamp idea sounds simple
and avoids the issue altogether.

Mike
044SR

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about

Mike Betti

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Mike Betti » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:21 pm

I like that foam idea Ralph, smart....
Mike Betti

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
Baker
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:53 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Mike,
If the good denizens of the Rebel List dont have a scrap of strut to trace
here are two alternates. The machinist supply houses have a tool that has
many small wires in a holder that allows the wires to take the form of
objects it is pressed against. That allows duplication of the contour.
Another option would be to hold a piece of rough (80) sandpaper tightly on
the strut and sand a block of foam to the correct contour.
Ralph Baker



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Mike Betti

[rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Post by Mike Betti » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:21 pm

Another good idea...
I got the profile pic from Eric, thanks, that will work fine. I am going to
mount a helmet video camera to it and then keep the recorder inside.
Mike Betti

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:33 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Mike a quick way to get a profile of a surface like this is to wrap it in
saran wrap, then use a can of expansion foam to squirt a blob of foam over
it a couple inches thick. Once it sets up you can cut the ends with a razor

blade, then run it through a band saw to give it square ends. Quick and
easy, and very accurate.

Mike

[quote]-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

Thanks for the idea,
Can anybody out there make me a tracing of the profile of a wing strut and
send it to me on email. I don't have any scraps left from the build. Just
a
pencil outline of the end profile put on a scanner?
Thanks,
mbetti@hughes.net


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

My latest camera mount is a step up from previously using duct tape.

I created a clamp out of 3/4" plywood that is cut to follow the shape of
the
strut. I placed felt on the inside of the plywood to limit scuffing the
paint. Bolts pull the clamp halves together and is very secure with no
camera vibration.

No need to drill.

Eric
N645E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Betti
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Drilling holes strut

I was wondering if anyone had a problem with drilling and tapping 2 AN3
holes in the top of my Elite wing strut, about


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