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Keith Leitch

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Keith Leitch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Mike,

Jones, Michael

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Jones, Michael » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Hi keith

So is it 2 or 3, I suspect its number 2

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Sent: February 2, 2009 6:35 AM
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Mike,

Keith Leitch

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Keith Leitch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

I'll walk over to the hangar after lunch. I got busy yesterday trying to prep some skis for painting and forgot. :(
-22 this morning so not in a big hurry to get outside. Isn't Northern Minnesota wonderful in the winter? LOL

Bob Andrews

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Bob Andrews » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Yah sure, you bet-cha !!

Cheers, Bob 612e

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:28 AM
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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] engine storage

I'll walk over to the hangar after lunch. I got busy yesterday trying to
prep some skis for painting and forgot. :(
-22 this morning so not in a big hurry to get outside. Isn't Northern
Minnesota wonderful in the winter? LOL

Keith Leitch

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Keith Leitch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Bob,


Keith Leitch

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Keith Leitch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Mike,

Rebflyer

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Rebflyer » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Hi all,
Just my views on engine storage, learned some the hard way and some from
finally learning to listen. Ok, some of the time:)
The best thing to do is not to store. Fly it every couple of weeks.
Store it in a climate controlled hanger. I still dream about having one of
those.
If you gotta store, remember the lycoming cam sits way up near the top of
the engine. No long term protection from corrosion. The 2 best and well
respected engine o'haulers in the area both are firm believers in the use of STP
if you don't fly often. Less than 75 hrs a year.They say you can tell the
difference the moment they crack the case.
If you use it, the cam and lifters are in great shape. If not, they get sent
for O'haul.
As for storage oils, part of the design is for cling ability. It stays on
the cam longer
What they say not to do?
Once it has been pickled do not pull the prop thru every now and then. You
just wipe the oil off the cylinders. Don't use an engine heater that is put
on a timer and cycles every so often. You just make a big water manufacturing
system.
The best thing to do? Fill it full of oil. I'm talking about 3 gals worth.
Yes it fills the intakes, weeps past the rings and fills the cylinder heads,
drips out the carb, and gets into the exhaust system. Makes a good way to
find that annoying leak too. When its time to fly again, pull the plugs and pull
the prop thru, change the oil to the normal oil you use and the correct
amount, fire it up and kill a few mosquitoes from the oil in the exhaust. No
sticky valves and a cam that is the same way you put it away.
The only other thing I have heard , with no experience, is a whole engine
dehydrator.
IMHO
Curt Martin
N97MR
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Keith Leitch

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Post by Keith Leitch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Curt,
That is what I did to my Champ which has an O-235. I filled it to the brim with oil when stored for the winter. It was the Cont. O-300 in my 172 that I sprayed with LPS-3. SOrta hard for me to fly every couple of weeks with the crappy weather we have been having here in MN.
Keith

--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Rebflyer@aol.com <Rebflyer@aol.com> wrote:

From: Rebflyer@aol.com <Rebflyer@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] engine storage
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:34 PM

Hi all,
Just my views on engine storage, learned some the hard way and some from
finally learning to listen. Ok, some of the time:)
The best thing to do is not to store. Fly it every couple of weeks.
Store it in a climate controlled hanger. I still dream about having one of
those.
If you gotta store, remember the lycoming cam sits way up near the top of
the engine. No long term protection from corrosion. The 2 best and well
respected engine o'haulers in the area both are firm believers in the use
of STP
if you don't fly often. Less than 75 hrs a year.They say you can tell the
difference the moment they crack the case.
If you use it, the cam and lifters are in great shape. If not, they get sent
for O'haul.
As for storage oils, part of the design is for cling ability. It stays on
the cam longer
What they say not to do?
Once it has been pickled do not pull the prop thru every now and then. You
just wipe the oil off the cylinders. Don't use an engine heater that is
put
on a timer and cycles every so often. You just make a big water manufacturing
system.
The best thing to do? Fill it full of oil. I'm talking about 3 gals
worth.
Yes it fills the intakes, weeps past the rings and fills the cylinder heads,
drips out the carb, and gets into the exhaust system. Makes a good way to
find that annoying leak too. When its time to fly again, pull the plugs and
pull
the prop thru, change the oil to the normal oil you use and the correct
amount, fire it up and kill a few mosquitoes from the oil in the exhaust. No
sticky valves and a cam that is the same way you put it away.
The only other thing I have heard , with no experience, is a whole engine
dehydrator.
IMHO
Curt Martin
N97MR
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Walter Klatt

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Walter Klatt » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

How about turning the engine upside down every so often to let the oil
contact the cam? This would be for an engine stored in your garage or hangar
for an extended period of time.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Leitch
Sent: February 4, 2009 4:49 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] engine storage

Curt,
That is what I did to my Champ which has an O-235. I filled it to the brim
with oil when stored for the winter. It was the Cont. O-300 in my 172 that I
sprayed with LPS-3. SOrta hard for me to fly every couple of weeks with the
crappy weather we have been having here in MN.
Keith

--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Rebflyer@aol.com <Rebflyer@aol.com> wrote:

From: Rebflyer@aol.com <Rebflyer@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] engine storage
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:34 PM

Hi all,
Just my views on engine storage, learned some the hard way and some from
finally learning to listen. Ok, some of the time:)
The best thing to do is not to store. Fly it every couple of weeks.
Store it in a climate controlled hanger. I still dream about having one
of
those.
If you gotta store, remember the lycoming cam sits way up near the top of

the engine. No long term protection from corrosion. The 2 best and well
respected engine o'haulers in the area both are firm believers in the use
of STP
if you don't fly often. Less than 75 hrs a year.They say you can tell the
difference the moment they crack the case.
If you use it, the cam and lifters are in great shape. If not, they get
sent
for O'haul.
As for storage oils, part of the design is for cling ability. It stays on
the cam longer
What they say not to do?
Once it has been pickled do not pull the prop thru every now and then. You

just wipe the oil off the cylinders. Don't use an engine heater that is
put
on a timer and cycles every so often. You just make a big water
manufacturing
system.
The best thing to do? Fill it full of oil. I'm talking about 3 gals
worth.
Yes it fills the intakes, weeps past the rings and fills the cylinder
heads,
drips out the carb, and gets into the exhaust system. Makes a good way to
find that annoying leak too. When its time to fly again, pull the plugs and
pull
the prop thru, change the oil to the normal oil you use and the correct
amount, fire it up and kill a few mosquitoes from the oil in the exhaust.
No
sticky valves and a cam that is the same way you put it away.
The only other thing I have heard , with no experience, is a whole engine

dehydrator.
IMHO
Curt Martin
N97MR
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Jones, Michael

[rebel-builders] engine storage

Post by Jones, Michael » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

What type of oil did you use to fill the engine with ??
Got lps 2 and 3 to spray already, see polyfibre has an oil for engine
storage but no in stock anywhere here

thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Rebflyer@aol.com
Sent: February 4, 2009 7:34 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] engine storage

Hi all,
Just my views on engine storage, learned some the hard way and some
from
finally learning to listen. Ok, some of the time:)
The best thing to do is not to store. Fly it every couple of weeks.
Store it in a climate controlled hanger. I still dream about having
one of
those.
If you gotta store, remember the lycoming cam sits way up near the
top of
the engine. No long term protection from corrosion. The 2 best and well

respected engine o'haulers in the area both are firm believers in the
use of STP
if you don't fly often. Less than 75 hrs a year.They say you can tell
the
difference the moment they crack the case.
If you use it, the cam and lifters are in great shape. If not, they get
sent
for O'haul.
As for storage oils, part of the design is for cling ability. It stays
on
the cam longer
What they say not to do?
Once it has been pickled do not pull the prop thru every now and then.
You
just wipe the oil off the cylinders. Don't use an engine heater that is
put
on a timer and cycles every so often. You just make a big water
manufacturing
system.
The best thing to do? Fill it full of oil. I'm talking about 3 gals
worth.
Yes it fills the intakes, weeps past the rings and fills the cylinder
heads,
drips out the carb, and gets into the exhaust system. Makes a good way
to
find that annoying leak too. When its time to fly again, pull the plugs
and pull
the prop thru, change the oil to the normal oil you use and the correct

amount, fire it up and kill a few mosquitoes from the oil in the
exhaust. No
sticky valves and a cam that is the same way you put it away.
The only other thing I have heard , with no experience, is a whole
engine
dehydrator.
IMHO
Curt Martin
N97MR
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Drew Dalgleish

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Post by Drew Dalgleish » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

At 05:52 PM 04/02/2009 -0800, you wrote:
How about turning the engine upside down every so often to let the oil
contact the cam? This would be for an engine stored in your garage or hangar
for an extended period of time.

Walter
LOL I have a neighbour that does that He bought a cheap automotive engine
stand that has a rotation feature and mounted his rebuilt 0-320 on it. He
goes out to the shop and gives it a full turn every week or so. It's going
to need a lot of turns he's building a Falco and last time I had the nerve
to ask he was still working on the rudder.
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Drew Dalgleish

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Post by Drew Dalgleish » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

At 10:13 AM 05/02/2009 -0500, you wrote:
What type of oil did you use to fill the engine with ??
Got lps 2 and 3 to spray already, see polyfibre has an oil for engine
storage but no in stock anywhere here

thanks
Shell makes a storage oil for aircraft engines that I've used in the past
but if you're going to fill the engine right up I'd think anything would
work.
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Post by Rebflyer » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:12 pm

If you are filling the engine up with oil, really any good product will do.
Shell does make a storage specific oil, and I think Phillips does too, but
they can both be run in the engine for a short time. I just drain the storage
oil I use and save it. I do not run the engine on it.
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